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Posted on 10/16/19 at 10:14 am
Posted on 10/16/19 at 10:14 am
I noticed an article where it discussed the 1,000 yard Wide Receivers in the history of the SEC.
I realize that the WR and the passing offenses are increasing in college to match what the NFL has become which is a QB/WR league. The RB is now a mere complement to an NFL offense.
But I worry that it is evident that AU is not following and will not follow that trend w/ Gus as coach. And we have not done that w/ the coaches we have hired over the last 20 years.
Our last 1,000 yard WR was in 1999 w/ Ronny Daniels. So that is 20 years without one. While Alabama, who we thought of as a power running team when Saban got there 10 years ago has had 7 1,000 yard WRs since 1999 and will add to that this year with 1 or 2 more.
That is amazing how average our passing offenses have been over the last 20 years.
I realize that the WR and the passing offenses are increasing in college to match what the NFL has become which is a QB/WR league. The RB is now a mere complement to an NFL offense.
But I worry that it is evident that AU is not following and will not follow that trend w/ Gus as coach. And we have not done that w/ the coaches we have hired over the last 20 years.
Our last 1,000 yard WR was in 1999 w/ Ronny Daniels. So that is 20 years without one. While Alabama, who we thought of as a power running team when Saban got there 10 years ago has had 7 1,000 yard WRs since 1999 and will add to that this year with 1 or 2 more.
That is amazing how average our passing offenses have been over the last 20 years.
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Posted on 10/16/19 at 10:16 am to AuSteeler
Agreed, and it's tough to recruit with that track record. With that being said, we have had a legitimately good passing offense before under our head coach (2014) and another solid passing offense (2017).
Posted on 10/16/19 at 10:19 am to AuSteeler
We should probably just work on putting all of our best WR's on the field at the same time first. Baby steps.
Posted on 10/16/19 at 10:34 am to auburnnyc94
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Agreed, and it's tough to recruit with that track record. With that being said, we have had a legitimately good passing offense before under our head coach (2014) and another solid passing offense (2017).
I will agree with that, but those offenses were still built on the premise of a very good running game. 2013 and 2014 were built around a running QB. 2017, we had KJ, and that allowed Stidham to have a good passing game.
Posted on 10/16/19 at 10:52 am to AuSteeler
Bottom Line: We run the football to set up the Pass
Others schools (Alabama, LSU) are willing to pass to set up the run. Alabama's offense is difficult to defend. They send multiple receivers out who can go inside (slants) or outside
Others schools (Alabama, LSU) are willing to pass to set up the run. Alabama's offense is difficult to defend. They send multiple receivers out who can go inside (slants) or outside
Posted on 10/16/19 at 11:17 am to allin2010
We usually only have 1 WR that actually runs wide receiver routes. Then we have our jet sweep guy and our bubble screen guy and that's it.
Posted on 10/16/19 at 12:47 pm to AuSteeler
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Our last 1,000 yard WR was in 1999 w/ Ronny Daniels. So that is 20 years without one
Darvin Adams came damn close, he had 997 yards in 2009. Had over 950 in 2010 too
Posted on 10/16/19 at 2:51 pm to BowlJackson
So did Sammie Coates(over 900) 2013 and Ryan in 2017(over 800, but i don't look at a ton of bubble screens as a passing offense). Coates pretty much were all bombs, if I remember.
But as long as we use the run to setup splash plays as Gus likes to call them, then its not going to be a detailed progression of passing plays all over the field.
But as long as we use the run to setup splash plays as Gus likes to call them, then its not going to be a detailed progression of passing plays all over the field.
This post was edited on 10/16/19 at 2:52 pm
Posted on 10/16/19 at 3:21 pm to AuSteeler
I’d rather have multiple WRs with 600-700 yards receiving than 1 with 1,000. Same with RBs.
Posted on 10/16/19 at 3:31 pm to AuSteeler
20 years, that has to have an effect on recruiting. It's been a long time since any WR at Auburn has been considered "the guy".
Posted on 10/16/19 at 3:37 pm to AuSteeler
quote:Average or less than average?
That is amazing how average our passing offenses have been over the last 20 years.
Posted on 10/16/19 at 9:21 pm to sbr2
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It's been a long time since any WR at Auburn has been considered "the guy".
If you ask me Seth Williams is as close to the guy as anyone.
Posted on 10/16/19 at 9:46 pm to sbr2
quote:Rod Smith (2006-2008)
It's been a long time since any WR at Auburn has been considered "the guy".
Darvin Adams (2009 and 2010)
Sammie Coates (2013)
Duke Williams (to an extent) (2014)
Emory Blake (2012)
Gutta Man Ric (2015)
Ryan Davis (2017)
Seth Williams (current)
2016 didn’t have a true “guy” at WR. 2018 was also pretty sketchy in terms of having a “guy.”
Posted on 10/17/19 at 8:10 pm to TTsTowel
I'd agree that those guys were important but they never had the stats to back it up. If we're talking 1k receivers, I think Darvin Adams got close. Hopefully Seth Williams keeps up the good work.
Posted on 10/18/19 at 10:11 pm to jvilletiger25
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I’d rather have multiple WRs with 600-700 yards receiving than 1 with 1,000. Same with RBs.
No you wouldn’t come on now. Do you say the same about Derrick Brown? I’d rather have more depth then an all american?
1,000 yard wr in the SEC is basically an all american caliber player. 700 yards may not even be 2nd team all Sec.
Posted on 10/18/19 at 10:51 pm to baldona
4 guys with 700 yards or 1 guy with 1,000 yards, and then the next 3 with maybe 300 yards a piece? I’ll take the group with no 1,000 yard receiver. That’s a more explosive offense.
Posted on 10/19/19 at 12:27 am to baldona
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No you wouldn’t come on now. Do you say the same about Derrick Brown? I’d rather have more depth then an all american?
1,000 yard wr in the SEC is basically an all american caliber player. 700 yards may not even be 2nd team all Sec.
Your understanding of his response is hilariously bad.
Posted on 10/19/19 at 7:46 pm to GoCrazyAuburn
Marcello has an article up with on 247 and says the catalyst to Schwartz getting more touches was moving him from boundary to field flanker so that both him and Williams can be on the field more at the same time.
Schwartz had 8 touches
Williams had 90 receiving yards
Legit threats on both sides of the field.
Why did it have to take so long to tweak the personnel groups though. Seems like common sense to me.
Schwartz had 8 touches
Williams had 90 receiving yards
Legit threats on both sides of the field.
Why did it have to take so long to tweak the personnel groups though. Seems like common sense to me.
Posted on 10/19/19 at 7:54 pm to jangalang
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Marcello has an article up with on 247 and says the catalyst to Schwartz getting more touches was moving him from boundary to field flanker so that both him and Williams can be on the field more at the same time.
Schwartz had 8 touches
Williams had 90 receiving yards
Legit threats on both sides of the field.
Why did it have to take so long to tweak the personnel groups though. Seems like common sense to me.
IMO it won't matter against any team with a defensive pulse.
Posted on 10/19/19 at 7:58 pm to AuSteeler
Well, we do run the ball 70% of the time which hurts the receiving yards.
WE do have the most 1000 yard rushers in the past 10 years or so.
You can't have both. Well, not really
WE do have the most 1000 yard rushers in the past 10 years or so.
You can't have both. Well, not really
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