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ATM fans- Re: Derrick Griffin

Posted on 6/25/13 at 10:49 pm
Posted by gatordmb89
Member since Dec 2009
30458 posts
Posted on 6/25/13 at 10:49 pm
Is he going to make it in to Miami? If so, so much for the he will never qualify BS.
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
60121 posts
Posted on 6/25/13 at 11:26 pm to
I have not kept up with it, but you sound like you know something. If he does they pulled some typical U shite. All indications from our side were that he had zero shot
Posted by gatordmb89
Member since Dec 2009
30458 posts
Posted on 6/26/13 at 7:34 am to
It is sounding like he will qualify. I am shocked.
Posted by lowspark12
nashville, tn
Member since Aug 2009
22365 posts
Posted on 6/26/13 at 7:46 am to
quote:

I am shocked.


why?... I know it's based off what other people have said, but did you see his transcripts?... do you know what he made on his ACT?

God forbid a kid work his butt off his senior year and summer school to better his life... that shouldn't 'shock' us.

FWIW, if something shady is going on, odds are the NCAA will find out... the clearinghouse is a pain, and other schools have no problem blowing the wistle on expected grade changing.
Posted by gatordmb89
Member since Dec 2009
30458 posts
Posted on 6/26/13 at 7:49 am to
Shocked because Miami is a better school than ATM and they couldn't get him in. So all of the sudden he can qualify at Miami? Something isn't adding up.
Posted by lowspark12
nashville, tn
Member since Aug 2009
22365 posts
Posted on 6/26/13 at 7:54 am to
does miami not use the minimum NCAA requirements, like most schools do? It doesn't take a brain surgeon to play d1 football... a decent ACT score and summer school can get almost anyone qualified.

Like I said above, if something doesn't add up, teams will call Miami/Griffin out on it... it happens every year.
Posted by gatordmb89
Member since Dec 2009
30458 posts
Posted on 6/26/13 at 8:03 am to
Lol I doubt it. UF and Vandy do not use the minimum NCAA requirements so I doubt Miami does. I honestly don't know 100% on that, but ATM fans were hearing it would take a miracle for him to qualify.
Posted by lowspark12
nashville, tn
Member since Aug 2009
22365 posts
Posted on 6/26/13 at 8:09 am to
I hear you, but they had as much first hand knowledge of Griffin's grades as you or I did... they were just going off what their 'mods' were feeding them. It wouldn't suprise me at all if his grades were blown well out of proportion.

UofM is no Vanderbilt... they may not use the NCAA minimum, but I'd bet they're close... when I think Hurricane football, I don't necessary think a bunch of high-intellect players running around...
Posted by Mirthomatic
Member since Feb 2013
4113 posts
Posted on 6/26/13 at 9:04 am to
quote:

Lol I doubt it. UF and Vandy do not use the minimum NCAA requirements so I doubt Miami does. I honestly don't know 100% on that, but ATM fans were hearing it would take a miracle for him to qualify.


How do you know UF and Vandy don't use the minimum NCAA requirements for admission?

My understanding is that Griffin still has to pass one or more subject-specific state exit tests. It wasn't impossible that he could qualify, but it was an extreme long shot. There's no way A&M would have refused to take his LOI otherwise. The same thing happened w/ 4* DT Kerrick Huggins. It looked like the odds of qualifying were stacked against him, so A&M cut bait and Huggins double signed w/ OU and a JUCO (and it's looking like he's JUCO-bound).

The reason for all this is because, due to the SEC's Houston Nutt rule, if A&M had signed those two, and they hadn't qualified, they still would have counted against the 25 LOI limit for last year. So we would have been down two players in last year's class, and unable to use early-enrollees to fill those slots from this year's class.

If Griffin does pull off a miracle and qualifies, more power to him. I would have loved to have him in Aggieland, but I'll be glad he has the opportunity to make use of his incredible talents.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
139831 posts
Posted on 6/26/13 at 9:18 am to
IIRC Miami relaxed their entrance requirements not too long ago. However, the 80s teams were loaded with players that could barely speak English.
Posted by lowspark12
nashville, tn
Member since Aug 2009
22365 posts
Posted on 6/26/13 at 9:22 am to
I believe Vanderbilt has also relaxed it's requirements since Franklin got there. It's no coincidence they're getting better players since then (other factors are at work as well). IIRC, it was part of Franklin's stipulations for taking the job.
Posted by Sig
dallas
Member since Oct 2010
2035 posts
Posted on 6/26/13 at 6:08 pm to
DG is a stud and the U will be getting one of the best. That being said, I pay for info, and he was a no go at a&m. We worked really hard with him, but it just wasn't going to work. It is also based on the SEC rules as well. Risk was too great.

Our basketball team could have really used him. It would have been huge had he qualified.
Posted by mdanyc03
Member since Aug 2012
83 posts
Posted on 6/26/13 at 6:22 pm to
It has been over a month since he graduated from high school and he still isn't in Miami. I wouldn't be counting on it if I were a Canes fan. I really like the kid and wish him the best.
Posted by tiggerthetooth
Big Momma's House
Member since Oct 2010
61137 posts
Posted on 6/26/13 at 11:15 pm to
Yeah I assume it to be more SEC vs. ACC requirements thing going on here.

Goes back to when Dexter Pratt ended up at Okie Lite, and Phil Loadholt ended up at OU simply because the Big 12 had lower academic requirements. At least A&M was plentiful at the WR position whereas Griffin could be a big impact on Miami day 1. Miami even throws the ball around quite a bit, so it wouldn't surprise me to see him make an impact IF he ends up qualified. Here's to hoping he does just to see what a talent he is.
This post was edited on 6/26/13 at 11:16 pm
Posted by Domination
Member since Mar 2009
1260 posts
Posted on 6/27/13 at 1:06 pm to
quote:

IIRC Miami relaxed their entrance requirements not too long ago. However, the 80s teams were loaded with players that could barely speak.



FYP...
This post was edited on 6/27/13 at 1:07 pm
Posted by Bob Ag
Austin
Member since Aug 2011
3008 posts
Posted on 6/28/13 at 1:06 pm to
I would be surprised if he made it in. If he does, then good for him because all indications were that he was a good guy, just not a lot of guidance in his life.

If he doesn't, then I hope he goes JUCO and A&M continues to recruit him. He was a stud.
Posted by Roger Klarvin
DFW
Member since Nov 2012
46505 posts
Posted on 7/12/13 at 1:31 pm to
quote:

Shocked because Miami is a better school than ATM and they couldn't get him in. So all of the sudden he can qualify at Miami? Something isn't adding up.


Miami is a private school which grants them certain loopholes not available to public institutions. Just because they have the same minimum NCAA entrance requirements as most schools doesn't mean the situations are equivalent.

One reason they were so good in the 80s and 90s was because they got a lot of guys in that FSU and Florida couldn't.
Posted by Maroon Flash
Florida
Member since May 2013
1527 posts
Posted on 7/12/13 at 3:14 pm to
quote:

Shocked because Miami is a better school than ATM


bullshite.

Why don;t you contact the AAU and recommend they invite Miami to join.

The best yardstick is that Miami grads have a significantly lower starting salary than Texas A&M grads.

Starting Salary
This post was edited on 7/12/13 at 3:16 pm
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