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re: Mizzou needs to leave The SEC
Posted on 11/16/21 at 10:33 am to BreakawayZou83
Posted on 11/16/21 at 10:33 am to BreakawayZou83
College basketball is dead?
Hahahahahahahahahahaha yea it is for Mizzou
I’d say the same if Arkansas lost to UA Pine Bluff
I don’t think you understand how much the NIL is going to help basketball but how could you watching Mizzou
Arkansas almost (might make more this year) makes as much in basketball as Mizzou does in football so sorry for your loss homie
Hahahahahahahahahahaha yea it is for Mizzou
I’d say the same if Arkansas lost to UA Pine Bluff
I don’t think you understand how much the NIL is going to help basketball but how could you watching Mizzou
Arkansas almost (might make more this year) makes as much in basketball as Mizzou does in football so sorry for your loss homie
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Posted on 11/16/21 at 11:23 am to Vols98
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VANDY at least adds value in baseball and women's bowling
FIFY...
Posted on 11/16/21 at 12:22 pm to BreakawayZou83
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no sport adds any significant value to the conference outside of football
And how much value has the Missouri Tigers brought to the conference in football this year? You had a nail biter against Central Michigan and lost to Boston College. No one watches your team and the stands are totally abandoned
If you want to use that as your measuring stick, how do you measure up??
Posted on 11/16/21 at 1:07 pm to Porker Face
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And how much value has the Missouri Tigers brought to the conference in football this year? You had a nail biter against Central Michigan and lost to Boston College. No one watches your team and the stands are totally abandone
Is recent football history really the path that Arkansas wants to use against Mizzou?
Mizzou has been to Atlanta twice in the past decade and has absolutely dominated the series between the schools. And as far as attendance goes, it sure is easy to point out bad attendance the year after COVID with a bad team to boot. But at least we don't lie about attendance when our team isn't very good:
"For UA, the announced attendance averaged 67,752 in 2017 at games played in Fayetteville. But the average number of tickets used was 39,216, or about 58 percent of what was announced. The records were released under the state's public disclosure law." Source
It's almost like bad on the field performance affects attendance no matter where the team is located! South Carolina might be the only program in the SEC that has room to talk shite on this one. Those guys sell out their stadium consistently despite how bad their team is in a given season. I am envious of their fan support.
I do feel the need to reiterate here that I genuinely like Arkansas and Fayetteville. It doesn't seem like outside this message board that there is any animosity between the schools or programs whatsoever. It seems to be that Arkansas' five whiniest/worst posters are just absolutely obsessed with Mizzou for some incredibly strange reason.
Posted on 11/16/21 at 1:16 pm to Golfer1
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College basketball is dead?
Hahahahahahahahahahaha yea it is for Mizzou
If college basketball was a fraction as important as you believe it to be, then why is Mizzou in the SEC while Kansas is stuck in the reformed AAC? Outside of their football program being a dumpster fire vs. our basketball program being a dumpster fire, the schools have similar profiles.
I get that Arkansas has a lot to be excited about on the hoops front, so y'all are going to posture and pretend that it matters a lot more than it does (not faulting you, we'd probably do the same thing if our recruiting class was that stacked).
Posted on 11/16/21 at 1:30 pm to hiremikeleach
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I literally can’t think of sport that missouri is decent in.
They’ve been in the conference for a decade and the only conference title they have won is in women’s volleyball like 6 years ago. It’s pretty wild how bad they’ve been across all sports since joining. Every other school has at least one sport they can say they are powerful in conference in but they don’t even come close to that.
Posted on 11/16/21 at 1:48 pm to BreakawayZou83
Conference realignment has nothing to do with someone claiming college basketball is dead.
It’s actually the complete opposite with the NIL for college basketball.
Mizzou has a much better football history than Kansas (who gets zero support) and when the alignment was made Mizzou wasn’t bad at football and Mike Anderson had the basketball team in the Elite 8.
Nobody is saying football doesn’t drive the realignments (although I think most are confused about Mizzou because the TV markets in that state don’t love college sports) but saying college basketball is dead is a wild thing to say because with the NIL it’s actually the complete opposite.
Now if you were still in the Big 12 today with the way your athletic department is you’d be stuck in the new AAC. You were fortunate that the SEC needed someone to bring in with the Aggies and at the time your athletic department wasn’t bad
Again Arkansas will make more in basketball this year than Mizzou does football. Don’t let those facts get in your way. Year two of new coach and you still couldn’t sell many tickets and people were itching to go to games after the covid year
It’s actually the complete opposite with the NIL for college basketball.
Mizzou has a much better football history than Kansas (who gets zero support) and when the alignment was made Mizzou wasn’t bad at football and Mike Anderson had the basketball team in the Elite 8.
Nobody is saying football doesn’t drive the realignments (although I think most are confused about Mizzou because the TV markets in that state don’t love college sports) but saying college basketball is dead is a wild thing to say because with the NIL it’s actually the complete opposite.
Now if you were still in the Big 12 today with the way your athletic department is you’d be stuck in the new AAC. You were fortunate that the SEC needed someone to bring in with the Aggies and at the time your athletic department wasn’t bad
Again Arkansas will make more in basketball this year than Mizzou does football. Don’t let those facts get in your way. Year two of new coach and you still couldn’t sell many tickets and people were itching to go to games after the covid year
This post was edited on 11/16/21 at 1:51 pm
Posted on 11/16/21 at 1:53 pm to TheCheshireHog
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They’ve been in the conference for a decade and the only conference title they have won is in women’s volleyball like 6 years ago. It’s pretty wild how bad they’ve been across all sports since joining. Every other school has at least one sport they can say they are powerful in conference in but they don’t even come close to that.
We've always sucked at olympic sports. That is not a new problem for us that began when we joined the SEC. We used to snag men's hoops conference championships fairly regularly (eight regular season championships plus another eight tournament championships from 1976-2012 for a total of 16 across that time period).
But we literally only won three other Big 12 championships the entire time we were in the conference: women's soccer once, women's softball once, and wrasslin' once.
This post was edited on 11/16/21 at 2:17 pm
Posted on 11/16/21 at 2:00 pm to the808bass
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If we beat them this year (which is not highly likely), I will laugh for approximately 12 months.
Its that bad at Mizzou now?
Posted on 11/16/21 at 2:11 pm to BreakawayZou83
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I get that Arkansas has a lot to be excited about on the hoops front, so y'all are going to posture and pretend that it matters a lot more than it does (not faulting you, we'd probably do the same thing if our recruiting class was that stacked).
You act like its new for Arkansas fans to enjoy basketball
Posted on 11/16/21 at 2:13 pm to Golfer1
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Golfer1
You just make shite up as you go to fit your narratives. This thread is "Mizzou needs to leave the SEC", so it is about conference alignment. I am pointing out that the premise is flawed, because basketball and irrelevant non-revenue sports do not drive conference realignment, as you willingly concede. It's just football. And yea, we suck right now, but most teams have down seasons. We can't all mail it in and wind up with a top five recruiting class each season like Georgia. Arkansas fans would surely know a thing or two about that and you would think that their fans would approach topics of this nature with a bit more self-awareness.
Posted on 11/16/21 at 3:08 pm to BreakawayZou83
I believe basketball is still a driving factor in realignment if you have a decent following in football
If Kansas was even somewhat decent at football they would get an invite to another conference
I totally understand being down in football but usually when you are down in something you are Atleast good at something else.
I also think the OP was referring to having the worst athletic department in the SEC which you currently do. Not good at anything and make the conference look bad
Again we will make more in basketball this year than you do football
Basketball is a revenue generating sport. Problem is Mizzou I believe is losing money in all sports
If Kansas was even somewhat decent at football they would get an invite to another conference
I totally understand being down in football but usually when you are down in something you are Atleast good at something else.
I also think the OP was referring to having the worst athletic department in the SEC which you currently do. Not good at anything and make the conference look bad
Again we will make more in basketball this year than you do football
Basketball is a revenue generating sport. Problem is Mizzou I believe is losing money in all sports
This post was edited on 11/16/21 at 3:11 pm
Posted on 11/16/21 at 3:14 pm to BreakawayZou83
We all understand the the largest revenue producer in the SEC is Football. But, 2nd is Basketball and some basketball teams bring in more via ticket sales, ad revenue via round ball than football I would imagine (KY for example) and perhaps some Round Ball programs beat other FB programs (KY for example)
BWA is sold out... Every single game donezo... that's alot of $$$ not to mention the new guidelines to get the seats to begin with (DOneations anyone?) Dude, Arkansas makes money off of Basketball, Baseball, and Football at this point.
ANd I predict that Women's Basketball may be in the black within 2 years. KaZing!!!! Cash is king. WPS! MISSOU!
Posted on 11/16/21 at 4:36 pm to Razorback Reverend
Mizzou isn't driving revenue in any sport. That is my whole point. They are sucking The SEC $$$$ and giving nothing back. That's why they should be shown the door.
Posted on 11/16/21 at 5:05 pm to Vols98
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Mizzou isn't driving revenue in any sport. That is my whole point. They are sucking The SEC $$$$ and giving nothing back. That's why they should be shown the door.
I cannot believe we were added to the league 10 YEARS ago and y’all still cannot grasp this concept.
Mizzou was added for TV markets. Not because they are an athletic juggernaut. TELEVISION SETS. That is what matters.
It does not matter if anyone even tunes in. Nobody in Kansas City or St. Louis even has to watch. ALL THAT MATTERS is that the SEC could point to KC, STL, and a state of over 6M people and say “yeah ESPN, you can include SEC Network in cable packages to over 6M people.”
If you can grasp that concept, you’ll realize that regardless of their suck in athletics, Mizzou brings more to the conference financially than about half of the league.
Posted on 11/16/21 at 5:22 pm to Golfer1
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Again Arkansas will make more in basketball this year than Mizzou does football.
Remember when I fricked your mom? Statements like this is why. You are the dumbest Arkansas poster. That is a high bar. And yet, there you are. Standing on the podium. Gold medal of dumb.
Posted on 11/16/21 at 5:36 pm to BreakawayZou83
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But at least we don't lie about attendance when our team isn't very good
So you don't know the difference between announced attendance and tickets scanned. You must be a huge college football fan. FYI these are always two different numbers everywhere
Wonder what Missouri football butts in seats numbers are. It looks empty on TV, and your stadium is much smaller than ours despite your state having twice the population...
Posted on 11/16/21 at 5:39 pm to KCM0Tiger
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does not matter if anyone even tunes in. Nobody in Kansas City or St. Louis even has to watch. ALL THAT MATTERS is that the SEC could point to KC, STL, and a state of over 6M people and say “yeah ESPN, you can include SEC Network in cable packages to over 6M people.”
And then the contract comes up for renewal, they check the actual eyeballs on TVs, and realize their mistake. Then you exit stage left
Advertisers don't care about paying for how many TVs they "can" be watched on. They care about how many watch their ads. Still takes people watching bruh
Posted on 11/16/21 at 5:55 pm to Porker Face
People still not understanding how tv money comes to the SEC.
Posted on 11/16/21 at 6:04 pm to KCM0Tiger
You do understand advertisers will eventually see just how many "eyeballs" tuned in.. I get your point on bringing 2 big cities to the market - however - when ratings come out... they will see what "market" is actually worth paying for. For example - Knoxville is one of the top markets for viewership in college sports and we aren't considered a "city" but more of a above average "town".
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