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Missouri doesn't get the respect it should
Posted on 8/27/21 at 3:33 pm
Posted on 8/27/21 at 3:33 pm
They're an old Big 8 member, which was a tough conference -- they took the first 3 spots in the final AP/UPI polls in 1971 with #1 Nebraska, #2 Oklahoma, and #3 Colorado.
Missouri won 10 Big 8 titles.
They're 9-3 vs. Arkansas...5-4 vs. Tennessee....5-5 vs. Florida....2-1 vs. LSU....2-2 vs. Michigan....2-2 vs. Notre Dame....7-1 vs. Ole Miss...2-2 vs. Miss. State...and only 7-8 vs. Texas A&M.
They have two unclaimed national titles as listed by the NCAA Official Records Book, 1960 & 2007.
So, Missouri has a pretty good football history and you shouldn't ever take'em lightly.
Missouri won 10 Big 8 titles.
They're 9-3 vs. Arkansas...5-4 vs. Tennessee....5-5 vs. Florida....2-1 vs. LSU....2-2 vs. Michigan....2-2 vs. Notre Dame....7-1 vs. Ole Miss...2-2 vs. Miss. State...and only 7-8 vs. Texas A&M.
They have two unclaimed national titles as listed by the NCAA Official Records Book, 1960 & 2007.
So, Missouri has a pretty good football history and you shouldn't ever take'em lightly.
Posted on 8/27/21 at 3:36 pm to JetDawg
Who cares? This is the SEC Rant. We only discuss SEC schools here.
Posted on 8/27/21 at 3:36 pm to JetDawg
They don’t get respect because they’re perceived as a poor geographical fit, seen as more midwestern than southern culturally, and because of poop swastikas, Melissa Click, and the Ferguson riots.
Posted on 8/27/21 at 3:39 pm to kingbob
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and because of poop swastikas, Melissa Click, and the Ferguson riots.
Ya I'd pipe down with the way LSU has headed recently.
Posted on 8/27/21 at 4:01 pm to JetDawg
Mizzou had the 3rd biggest stadium in the old Big8 behind the two Big Reds, and had a winning record against all Big8 teams aside from OU and Nebraska
Posted on 8/27/21 at 4:04 pm to mizslu314
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I'd pipe down with the way LSU has headed recently.
LSU and Louisiana in general is an absolute dumpster fire right now.
Posted on 8/27/21 at 4:09 pm to DuckTalesLOL
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We only discuss SEC schools here.
That used to be the case.
This board is now flooded with threads that have nothing to do with the SEC and/or SEC schools.
Posted on 8/27/21 at 4:11 pm to kingbob
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They don’t get respect because they’re perceived as a poor geographical fit
In a geographic sense, try to think of them as being "West Kentucky".
Posted on 8/27/21 at 4:25 pm to JetDawg
It's because the University snubbed its athletic department for about 20 years from the mid-80s through the early 2000s. We were respectable until about 1985. Then all hell broke loose and its only been since Pinkel came around that there has been some pride restored to the football program.
For most of our history, we've been a tier below the big boys, but better than the underlings of our conferences.
Mizzou is a woeful 24-67 against OU, 6-18 against Texas, and 36-65 against Nebraska. But we have winning records against every other Big 12 school aside from Texas A&M (7-8 all-time). We dominate Kansas State (60-32), Iowa State (61-34), Colorado (41-31), Baylor (10-4), and Texas Tech (6-3). We've also crushed our other regional rival, Illinois (17-7). We have narrow winning records against the other Big 12 schools.
So far, it's been pretty similar in the SEC. Georgia is our daddy (1-9), and we've had little luck against Bama. But we've otherwise been competitive.
That said, Mizzou should be better. Its the sole P5 program in a state of 6+ million people. We don't have the recruiting luxury of Georgia or Texas, but Missouri produces enough talent that we should consistently be a Top 25 program.
On that note, I don't think it's being discussed enough, but Mizzou is currently the biggest winner of realignment, by far. Of the four schools the SEC added since 2011, it is probably the one that most SEC fans are least excited about. But lost in that is the fact that all of our regional rivals other than Arkansas and OU just got knocked down a peg relative to us. Being a bit of a geographic outlier in the SEC could turn out to be a massive advantage. Most of our historic rivals just got demoted to G6 conference status while we are getting lifted by a bunch of historic powerhouse programs in the SEC. Kansas, Kansas State, Iowa State, and Oklahoma State are not going to be able to compete with us on the football front. We will not only have more money, but the ability to sell the SEC to local recruits. What are those schools going to say in return? Come play in Stillwater, Ames, and Lubbock every year when you could play in Athens and Austin? Even Nebraska, Illinois, and Iowa are going to struggle to recruit against us going forward. The Big Ten's West Division is pretty depressing and the SEC just got a whole lot stronger.
For most of our history, we've been a tier below the big boys, but better than the underlings of our conferences.
Mizzou is a woeful 24-67 against OU, 6-18 against Texas, and 36-65 against Nebraska. But we have winning records against every other Big 12 school aside from Texas A&M (7-8 all-time). We dominate Kansas State (60-32), Iowa State (61-34), Colorado (41-31), Baylor (10-4), and Texas Tech (6-3). We've also crushed our other regional rival, Illinois (17-7). We have narrow winning records against the other Big 12 schools.
So far, it's been pretty similar in the SEC. Georgia is our daddy (1-9), and we've had little luck against Bama. But we've otherwise been competitive.
That said, Mizzou should be better. Its the sole P5 program in a state of 6+ million people. We don't have the recruiting luxury of Georgia or Texas, but Missouri produces enough talent that we should consistently be a Top 25 program.
On that note, I don't think it's being discussed enough, but Mizzou is currently the biggest winner of realignment, by far. Of the four schools the SEC added since 2011, it is probably the one that most SEC fans are least excited about. But lost in that is the fact that all of our regional rivals other than Arkansas and OU just got knocked down a peg relative to us. Being a bit of a geographic outlier in the SEC could turn out to be a massive advantage. Most of our historic rivals just got demoted to G6 conference status while we are getting lifted by a bunch of historic powerhouse programs in the SEC. Kansas, Kansas State, Iowa State, and Oklahoma State are not going to be able to compete with us on the football front. We will not only have more money, but the ability to sell the SEC to local recruits. What are those schools going to say in return? Come play in Stillwater, Ames, and Lubbock every year when you could play in Athens and Austin? Even Nebraska, Illinois, and Iowa are going to struggle to recruit against us going forward. The Big Ten's West Division is pretty depressing and the SEC just got a whole lot stronger.
This post was edited on 8/27/21 at 4:27 pm
Posted on 8/27/21 at 4:27 pm to JetDawg
They are Midwest. Should be in Big 10 geographically. SEC shouldn’t ever have snow games.
Posted on 8/27/21 at 4:34 pm to ATW
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They are Midwest. Should be in Big 10 geographically. SEC shouldn’t ever have snow games.
I think the reason we are all so sensitive about the whole geography thing is that we spent our history in the Big 8/12 being told we belong in the SEC. Kansas fans, in their standard poor taste, refer to our fans as "slavers".
Missouri works as your northwest border:
Posted on 8/27/21 at 4:36 pm to JetDawg
In before the melt…..oops too late.
Posted on 8/27/21 at 4:44 pm to ATW
Shut up, noob. Might wanna brush up on your history now that you’re here
1964 Alabama vs. Ole Miss Sugar Bowl
2000 Independence Bowl
1964 Alabama vs. Ole Miss Sugar Bowl
2000 Independence Bowl
Posted on 8/27/21 at 4:52 pm to JetDawg
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Missouri doesn't get the respect it should
They haven't won a conference championship since 1969
Hook'em
Posted on 8/27/21 at 4:57 pm to GAT BoilerPickle Doc
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They haven't won a conference championship since 1969
And for all the resources, blue-chip recruits, overpaid coaches, special treatment, and benefit of the doubt that Texas gets, they managed to win that same conference just three times. Yikes. If there is a program that does less with more than Missouri, it's the Longhorns.
Posted on 8/27/21 at 6:01 pm to BreakawayZou83
I was born in the South and have lived here my entire life. I have never met anyone who thought Missouri was Southern. Midwestern or possibly Western but not Southern. A&M, Texas and Oklahoma don’t qualify either. All poor choices for the SOUTHEAST conference.
Posted on 8/27/21 at 6:07 pm to JetDawg
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They're an old Big 8 member, which was a tough conference -- they took the first 3 spots in the final AP/UPI polls in 1971 with #1 Nebraska, #2 Oklahoma, and #3 Colorado.
Now do pac12 schools in basketball because of the UCLA run in the 60's and 70's.
Posted on 8/27/21 at 6:41 pm to DuckTalesLOL
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Who cares? This is the SEC Rant. We only discuss SEC schools here.
I wouldn't want to discuss an out of conference "rival" that kicks my arse every year either.
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