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re: Hey Baws, Covid check in

Posted on 8/27/21 at 12:25 pm to
Posted by Spread
Alabama
Member since Aug 2012
1150 posts
Posted on 8/27/21 at 12:25 pm to
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If there was a way to eradicate child hunger, but the cost would be all of us paying an extra $30 a year in taxes, all you'd hear about is how it's tyranny, this is why we fought the Revolution, and it's the responsibility of those kids' parents to feed them.


The problem with this argument is that our government is so fiscally irresponsible and our politicians so greedy that $25 of that $30 would go to lining politicians' pockets while the majority of the hungry children remained that way thanks to that greed.
This post was edited on 8/27/21 at 12:28 pm
Posted by IB4bama
Pelham
Member since Oct 2017
1979 posts
Posted on 8/27/21 at 12:25 pm to
But the vaccines do reduce this risk, because they greatly shorten the time you have the disease. And even more critical day by day is what is happening in the hospitals.
It isnt just grand ma and grand pa. And a lot of kids and pregnant women are getting it too. That doesnt have anything to do with Grand Ma.
Posted by Tw1st3d
Member since Jul 2017
782 posts
Posted on 8/27/21 at 12:32 pm to
If it is important, do your own research and do not assume what some other person tells you is fact. Every one of us has a "personal agenda" that in some way molds our choices, actions, and how we broadcast our opinion.

My family (wife, 3 daughters, me) have each had covid but none of us got it from another family core member that had it. All of us had it before the vaccine was an option except for one. Since having covid last August, I know of 11 times I have had significant exposure and my natural immunity from having had it has protected me from getting it again.

My eldest daughter got it from my son-in-law (a doctor) that got covid after having been vaccinated. They have have both also gotten covid a second time (Delta this time). My vaccinated son-in-law, both times had a worse case than my daughter who had no vaccine. Both times her symptoms were minor and she was over it in 3 days or less.

My wife, My other two daughters, and I all had minor symptoms and were over it in 36 hours or less.

Extended family, Mother (late 80's) - we protected her and she never got it. She has been vaccinated earlier this year. My younger brother, no vaccine but he did get covid before the vaccine was an option. My older brother (also a doctor) was vaccinated early on and still got covid. His was not a bad case but lasted just over a week. His entire core family has been vaccinated and all but two still got covid (some before vaccine and some after) all mild cases that lasted 5 to 10 days.

All of my core family members get to make the choice of to vaccinate or not to vaccinate for themselves. My wife, youngest daughter and I will not get the mRNA vaccine. However, once the Novavax version (traditional style non-mRNA) is available, we will likely get that one.

As for masks, only when REQUIRED. All of my extended family members (not including my wife and me) are consistent with mask and best we can tell got covid while wearing a mask (oldest daughter exception, she got it at home from her husband).
This post was edited on 8/27/21 at 12:33 pm
Posted by CrimsonBoz
Member since Sep 2014
17001 posts
Posted on 8/27/21 at 12:46 pm to
I had Covid in Late Feb. So did my wife. Took an IV and Ivermectin, was fine 2 days later. Maybe snake oil don’t know don’t care but I felt great.

And on the mask thing. They don’t work and the reason why is people are involved in the equation. Constantly touching their face and adjusting the mask.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
50985 posts
Posted on 8/27/21 at 12:46 pm to
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But the vaccines do reduce this risk, because they greatly shorten the time you have the disease.


Yes, for sure. It appears to help most people to have not as severe of a case.

quote:

And even more critical day by day is what is happening in the hospitals. It isnt just grand ma and grand pa. And a lot of kids and pregnant women are getting it too. That doesnt have anything to do with Grand Ma.


Vaccine doesn't seem to be changing any of this in Israel. I doubt it will be different here.
Posted by TideSaint
Hill Country
Member since Sep 2008
75905 posts
Posted on 8/27/21 at 12:48 pm to
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If it is important, do your own research and do not assume what some other person tells you is fact. Every one of us has a "personal agenda" that in some way molds our choices, actions, and how we broadcast our opinion.


Exactly.

But to call someone selfish because they aren't wearing a mask if fricking ludicrous.

Look, I get this virus can be extremely dangerous and has taken a lot of lives over the last 2 years. I get it. I truly do.

However, I also know that I am in complete control over MY health by choosing to work out, eat healthy and not put myself in situations I feel could be dangerous.

We know the virus isn't transmitted via surface contamination. We know for an absolute fact the masks don't do a Goddamn thing to stop the transmission of this virus. The manufacturers are even telling you on the fricking packaging. We know you have to be around an infected individual for approximately 15 minutes for transmission to occur.

Therefore, if you are scared of catching the virus, YOU need to change YOUR habits, not me.

- Don't stand next to someone for more than 15 minutes indoors. Hell, I can't even remember the last time I spent more than 15 minutes in a store total and I was walking around the whole time.

- Don't go to places where social distancing is impossible. If that means you can't go to a football game then that is on you, not me. You're the scared one, remember?

- Don't approach people who aren't wearing a mask. Leave them alone and go about YOUR business. If they catch it, they catch it. It's on them. They aren't your responsibility and you aren't theirs.

ETA: I'm not calling you, Twisted. You seem to have your head on your shoulders.
This post was edited on 8/27/21 at 12:49 pm
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
50985 posts
Posted on 8/27/21 at 12:49 pm to
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The problem with this argument is that our government is so fiscally irresponsible and our politicians so greedy that $25 of that $30 would go to lining politicians' pockets while the majority of the hungry children remained that way thanks to that greed.


Childhood hunger isn't an issue in this country anyway. We feed every child at school and even give them free food in the summer.

ETA: That's before even taking into account individual and charity actions.
This post was edited on 8/27/21 at 12:51 pm
Posted by Pastor Mike
Florida
Member since Dec 2020
5202 posts
Posted on 8/27/21 at 12:49 pm to
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And on the mask thing. They don’t work and the reason why is people are involved in the equation.


Posted by TideSaint
Hill Country
Member since Sep 2008
75905 posts
Posted on 8/27/21 at 12:51 pm to
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We feed every child at school and even give them free food in the summer.


Hell, my kids' ISD here in Texas is giving free breakfast and lunch to every single kid in the district for the 2nd year in a row.
Posted by TideWarrior
Asheville/Chapel Hill NC
Member since Sep 2009
11846 posts
Posted on 8/27/21 at 1:01 pm to
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Hell, my kids' ISD here in Texas is giving free breakfast and lunch to every single kid in the district for the 2nd year in a row


They are doing that here at my kids charter school this year. I was happy not to have to make lunch every night for my 5 kids.

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We feed every child at school and even give them free food in the summer.


In theory yes but the problem for so many of those kids they go home and that food is used to feed the whole family so never enough to keep the kid fully fed.

Again in theory but I work with many organizations in my area NPO and churches that are trying to find a remedy for this.
Posted by Tw1st3d
Member since Jul 2017
782 posts
Posted on 8/27/21 at 1:04 pm to
The whole mask thing is a farce. Real world example...

Covid "bug" even on a water droplet, is smaller than a paint droplet. The covid "bug" is 100's of times smaller. If you wear a mask (N-95 or less) into an active paint booth and stay in there very long (whether you are the one painting or just watching) you will die. The paint with coat and damage your lungs.

I caught one of my guys at work going into my paint booth with one of those cheap-arse surgical masks. Pulled him out and made him remove the mask in front of a mirror. I wanted him to see the orange paint around and in his nose. He and the others guys in the shop now understand that if they go into the paint booth without a proper ventilator, they will be fired.

The ONLY protection a mask offers is that it breaks up the water droplets into smaller size droplet. Although the smaller size droplets pass thru the mask more easily, the air pressure pushing the droplet is greatly reduced so that it does not travel as far.

The 6-feet apart thing is just as big a farce. Water mist from a sneeze/cough can easily travel 12 to 16 feet.
Posted by Decker
Member since Nov 2015
3435 posts
Posted on 8/27/21 at 1:15 pm to
I’m fully vaccinated, as is my wife and our 13 year old son. My extended family has had multiple people test positive without any serious problems; at the same time, I work at the hospital and see people dying of it almost every day.

The problem, as I see it, is extremists on one side pretending that the disease is nothing and extremists on the other side who want to mask and distance forever and never resume life. I wish we could all just be sensible.

Sorry for the rant. RMFT
Posted by TideSaint
Hill Country
Member since Sep 2008
75905 posts
Posted on 8/27/21 at 1:16 pm to
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The whole mask thing is a farce.


Of course it's a farce.

If the masks worked we wouldn't need a vaccine.

Hell, if the vaccine worked we wouldn't need to wear a mask.

fricking stupid.
Posted by Pastor Mike
Florida
Member since Dec 2020
5202 posts
Posted on 8/27/21 at 1:22 pm to
In before
Posted by Cobrasize
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2013
49682 posts
Posted on 8/27/21 at 1:28 pm to
Fellas, I cut the grass and trimmed the hedges today……. All while having Covid!!!!
Posted by TideWarrior
Asheville/Chapel Hill NC
Member since Sep 2009
11846 posts
Posted on 8/27/21 at 1:32 pm to
I will add this here because I have seen many doctors suggest part of the problem with the rise among children is due to sheltering them. This is from Dr. Sarah Combs, a pediatric emergency medicine physician at Children's National Hospital in Washington, DC

quote:

There's another factor. Kids have not been exposed to seasonal viruses for more than a year. "I think one thing is that we essentially sheltered a lot of these children during Covid," Combs said.

"So there's a theory that their immune systems didn't have the normal low-lying, routine level of exposure to the normal routine viruses like rhinovirus, so they weren't able to mount those kind of micro-responses to viruses and keep themselves ticking over," she added.

"Essentially it was like a bubble child, right? You've had them contained. You've had them quarantined ... and then all of a sudden we released these children. They're often in summer camps and we're even looking at going back to school. So all of a sudden these relatively naive immune systems that have kind of been resting on their laurels for the past 18 months are forced to confront the normal load of viruses and it's just that much harder to fight them."


I agree as our bodies develop a natural immune to many things. I am not advocating not to be cautious or throw our kids into a mosh pit but the concerns for hospitalizations rising among children from Covid has more to do with unseasonable epidemic of RSV which is being thought that lack of exposure by children to bolster their immune system has allowed Covid to weaken it more and be exposed to other respiratory viruses that their body normally can fend off for children that are otherwise healthy. increasae
Posted by TideSaint
Hill Country
Member since Sep 2008
75905 posts
Posted on 8/27/21 at 1:33 pm to
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Fellas, I cut the grass and trimmed the hedges today……. All while having Covid!!!!


Posted by mistaken4193
Member since Jan 2017
25628 posts
Posted on 8/27/21 at 1:35 pm to
Back in January. Started showing symptoms night of the Natty. Was really bad when the basketball team whipped UK in Rupp.

Honestly I was still having shortness of breath problems until about a month ago.


And after all that I still think people overreact about Covid. Take it seriously but dont live in fear over it. I advocate for the vaccine but if you don’t want to get it that’s your right and nobody should be criticized for their personal choice
This post was edited on 8/27/21 at 1:38 pm
Posted by Cobrasize
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2013
49682 posts
Posted on 8/27/21 at 1:36 pm to
Posted by UASports23
Member since Nov 2009
24353 posts
Posted on 8/27/21 at 1:45 pm to
I'm here. My 5G is working really well.
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