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Analogy to ponder regarding Bianco
Posted on 6/7/21 at 1:49 am
Posted on 6/7/21 at 1:49 am
If you had a honor student (Mike Bianco third all time winningest coach in SEC history) consistently ace the classes at Harvard (SEC baseball conference regular seasons) but fail the final (post season) 20 out of 21 times, pass the final less than 5%, would you think something is wrong with the final (post season) or something is wrong with the student (Bianco)? Cliff notes: Are the regionals stacked against Bianco? How can you dominate the SEC the best conference in all the land and fail the post season both consistently?
Posted on 6/7/21 at 1:51 am to BurnsideStyle
It’s a trick question. You don’t have to be smart to get into Harvard anymore
Posted on 6/7/21 at 1:55 am to BurnsideStyle
I don't think you know what the word dominate means. See Arkansas.
Posted on 6/7/21 at 1:57 am to Dawgtini
3rd time winningest coach in SEC history. That’s dominant. So how can you do that and lose at a 96% rate in the post season?
Posted on 6/7/21 at 1:59 am to 19
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short answer: WAOM
Of course I get that response and it’s funny but seriously how can that happen?
Posted on 6/7/21 at 2:02 am to BurnsideStyle
Bianco has a case of the UGAlies?
(when you look GREAT on paper but...well, yeah)
(when you look GREAT on paper but...well, yeah)
This post was edited on 6/7/21 at 2:03 am
Posted on 6/7/21 at 2:08 am to BurnsideStyle
It’s Bianco. Texas, Miami, UVA, Tennessee Tech etc.
Posted on 6/7/21 at 2:30 am to BurnsideStyle
If we’re being honest I think it’s a mix of poor coaching decisions, guys dropping the ball (literally and figuratively) and being screwed over in the postseason matchups.
In the 2000s supers we lost to Texas, Miami, and Arizona State in 3 straight years. Texas was the eventual champion so, whatever. Miami was a team we should’ve beaten. And ASU had their 2007 season vacated due to violations. Doesn’t help now, but still *shrugs*.
Tough supers no doubt, but we hosted the first two and the third was one where the team shouldn’t have been in the postseason.
Then 09 happens, and we were 5 outs away (great documentary btw) until Button screwed up the easiest throw ever. That isn’t on Bianco.
2014 we finally get over the hump.
In 2018 we got fricked over by the committee who put the toughest 2 seed in the country in our bracket. Even still we should’ve beaten them. So that’s sorta 50/50 on bianco and committee IMO.
Then in 2019 we should have, and would have, made Omaha if the committee wasn’t dead set on limiting the amount of conference teams that make it to Omaha.
The committee tried its hardest to frick the sec:
georgia/lsu & Arkansas/OM were the supers if all regional hosts won.
Rambled on, but part of the reason for our postseason failure comes down to coaching, part of it comes down to shitty play by the players (I know there’s more bad performances I didn’t name), and part of it comes down to us getting stuck with harder matchups than we reasonably should have been given
In the 2000s supers we lost to Texas, Miami, and Arizona State in 3 straight years. Texas was the eventual champion so, whatever. Miami was a team we should’ve beaten. And ASU had their 2007 season vacated due to violations. Doesn’t help now, but still *shrugs*.
Tough supers no doubt, but we hosted the first two and the third was one where the team shouldn’t have been in the postseason.
Then 09 happens, and we were 5 outs away (great documentary btw) until Button screwed up the easiest throw ever. That isn’t on Bianco.
2014 we finally get over the hump.
In 2018 we got fricked over by the committee who put the toughest 2 seed in the country in our bracket. Even still we should’ve beaten them. So that’s sorta 50/50 on bianco and committee IMO.
Then in 2019 we should have, and would have, made Omaha if the committee wasn’t dead set on limiting the amount of conference teams that make it to Omaha.
The committee tried its hardest to frick the sec:
georgia/lsu & Arkansas/OM were the supers if all regional hosts won.
Rambled on, but part of the reason for our postseason failure comes down to coaching, part of it comes down to shitty play by the players (I know there’s more bad performances I didn’t name), and part of it comes down to us getting stuck with harder matchups than we reasonably should have been given
Posted on 6/7/21 at 3:46 am to RebelVol
Why has he only been to the supers 6 times in 21 years? That’s not very good either IMO
Posted on 6/7/21 at 4:48 am to RebelVol
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Texas, Miami, UVA, Tennessee Tech etc.
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being screwed over in the postseason matchups.
Well, in 2019 MSU had to beat Miami as well in our regional and had Stanford in a Super. And in 2018 we had Oklahoma and FSU in our regional. We won both regionals. Furthermore, we had to face Vanderbilt in their Super Regional and we won.
We went to CWS both times. The point is, it’s not always “matchups” because we’ve had our share. You just have to win them, simple as that.
Btw, we had LSU in our Super Regional 2017 and Arizona the year before that etc.
This post was edited on 6/7/21 at 5:18 am
Posted on 6/7/21 at 4:48 am to BurnsideStyle
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How can you dominate the SEC the best conference in all the land
1 SEC regular season title in 45 years is dominating?
Posted on 6/7/21 at 6:40 am to RebelVol
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If we’re being honest I think it’s a mix of poor coaching decisions, guys dropping the ball (literally and figuratively) and being screwed over in the postseason matchups.
Being screwed over by postseason matchups isn't a thing. I know it's what ole miss fans lean on because they have to justify losing, but getting punted out of your own regional by teams like Tennessee Tech is not a matchup problem. Your regional this year was very easy (easier than ours based on RPI). I'm sure y'all will get it done today, but if you lose, "matchups" won't have anything to do with it.
Posted on 6/7/21 at 6:53 am to BurnsideStyle
Dominate the conference?????
Posted on 6/7/21 at 7:02 am to BurnsideStyle
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How can you dominate the SEC the best conference in all the land
It's not like you've actually dominated the SEC
Posted on 6/7/21 at 7:09 am to BurnsideStyle
Sometimes it be like that
Posted on 6/7/21 at 7:20 am to BurnsideStyle
Watch “Hold the Rope”. There is a part of the show where an ex-player says Skip was in danger of being fired because he couldn’t get over the post season hump. Even Skip said the first NC was right players, right place, right time. And that was before college baseball is what it is today. It’s way harder to win a NC in today’s game.
Just be happy you are in post season most years and hope one day the stars align for your program. That’s really all you can do.
Just be happy you are in post season most years and hope one day the stars align for your program. That’s really all you can do.
Posted on 6/7/21 at 8:10 am to Jumbo_Gumbo
I honestly believe it is all on Bianco. You can coach for 100 years, still have the most wins while you weren’t even average.
Something needs to change if we want to become legit contender in the postseason. Bianco hasn’t proven he is the guy over the last 20 something years. Maybe he gets fired and ole miss becomes Missouri, but maybe we hire the right guy and become better.
It all depends on what you want. Average to slightly above average, or do you want above average to great? If it is the second one you need to make a change. Bianco doesn’t have too many years left either way.
Something needs to change if we want to become legit contender in the postseason. Bianco hasn’t proven he is the guy over the last 20 something years. Maybe he gets fired and ole miss becomes Missouri, but maybe we hire the right guy and become better.
It all depends on what you want. Average to slightly above average, or do you want above average to great? If it is the second one you need to make a change. Bianco doesn’t have too many years left either way.
Posted on 6/7/21 at 8:22 am to BurnsideStyle
Y'all are forfeiting the Southern Miss game today? I would go ahead and play it and see how it turns out.
Posted on 6/7/21 at 8:22 am to BurnsideStyle
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Are the regionals stacked against Bianco?
Let's get this out of the way. No. No, they are not. Maybe you can find a year here or there where they got an unfavorable draw, but no.
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would you think something is wrong with the final (post season)
This is an interesting question. In general, I would say baseball's setup (regional, super, and CWS) gives teams more room for error than March Madness or the College Football Season & Playoff. The champion can lose 4 games in the postseason and still be crowned champion. I cannot think of any college sport that allows that.
The sport of baseball is why things get interesting. The way baseball shakes out, anyone can win on any given day. A college team could actually and has beaten professional ones. That could never happen in basketball or football.
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How can you dominate the SEC the best conference in all the land and fail the post season both consistently?
Firstly, Ole Miss doesn't dominate the SEC. Bianco has 1 regular-season title. 54.7% winning % in conference. That means 16-14 most years. Don't get me wrong, that's good. Most teams would take that.
I think if we looked deeper there would be some underlying cause. Maybe he doesn't approach the mental side correctly. Does the team take on his personality and get tense? Too loose? Maybe the team construction is flawed? Do they not properly scout the new opponents? I'd have to be inside the program for a long period of time to know.
This post was edited on 6/7/21 at 8:31 am
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