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re: Texas hired Stark because Jimbo is winning

Posted on 1/23/21 at 9:59 am to
Posted by AlaCowboy
North Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 1/23/21 at 9:59 am to
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Maybe Urban realizes that Texas Boosters run the show down there, as Sark is finding out. He was all set to hire Mike Stoops as LB coach until the boosters nixed it.


He also wanted Muschamp as DC but the boosters blocked that as well.
Posted by ColoradoAg
Colorado
Member since Sep 2011
22459 posts
Posted on 1/23/21 at 10:00 am to
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Aggies are constantly saying how much a cesspool Texas is yet they own you
Actually the media says it. Meyer considered the job, and didn't want to deal with the boosters. Texas has a reputation for grinding down coaches, and their fans are straight up toxic

Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
25901 posts
Posted on 1/23/21 at 10:01 am to
UT hired Sark to compete with OU. A&M is just an afterthought to them.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
53425 posts
Posted on 1/23/21 at 10:03 am to
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Actually the media says it. Meyer considered the job, and didn't want to deal with the boosters. Texas has a reputation for grinding down coaches, and their fans are straight up toxic



Then its pretty sad that they own you head to head and have four national championships since you last won one.

Not sure what that says about Aggie.
Posted by r2d2
Member since Dec 2006
6843 posts
Posted on 1/23/21 at 10:04 am to
How many championships has Fisher won at A&M ?
Posted by bamameister
Right here, right now
Member since May 2016
14584 posts
Posted on 1/23/21 at 10:09 am to
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Agreed that Fisher has really coached up the talent. All of the coaches on our staff know how to "coach" as well as recruit, and it really shows. That entire OL with the exception of the younger player were 3* recruits that just worked hard. Their replacements have more talent, but not the experience

As much as we at A&M love to promote King, he is still unproven. What is not is the RB's - Spiller/Achane will be a pain for SEC defenses next year. And we have talent at WR, just need to see if they have the want to block and do all the other things that make a WR successful. Like little old 3* Anias Smith

I wasn't joking when I said Fisher was ahead of schedule. Those T10 recruiting classes are just now starting to becomee upperclassmen. The underclassmen are just as talented, so now we can begin to compete on an even talent level. Across the board, not just with the occasional superstar like Garrett or JFF.




I apparently thought more of Sumlin's recruits than most aggies. I didn't think the cupboard was bare when Jimbo got there. However, the football culture sucked to high heaven and it has also been as much about that as anything. It takes time to learn to win and this conference is merciless and makes you earn everything. If Jimbo doesn't feel he has the next man at QB, you will see the transfer portal heat up this offseason. That position is and always will be in his domain and level of expertise. That the big advantage that TAMU has.

Personally, I have no doubt, Jimbo can outcoach Kirby on his worst day.
Posted by ColoradoAg
Colorado
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 1/23/21 at 10:10 am to
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How many championships has Fisher won at A&M ?

A&M is not a blue blood team. The only way for A&M is the Clemson route - you have to win consistently for a number of years, and build the foundation. Force yourself into the discussion for not just one year, but multiple years.

And A&M is seeing the results. Last year, finished in the top four. This year, start of recruiting is off to a level we haven't seen yet under Fisher - and could be his best class. This will be the third class in a row that is consistently T5 talent in 2022. This will be Fisher's fourth year, and just now his recruits are getting to upperclassmen status.
This post was edited on 1/23/21 at 10:11 am
Posted by FishFearMe
United States
Member since Jul 2015
7196 posts
Posted on 1/23/21 at 10:18 am to
Of course tcu also whips them
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
53425 posts
Posted on 1/23/21 at 10:19 am to
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If Jimbo doesn't feel he has the next man at QB, you will see the transfer portal heat up this offseason. That position is and always will be in his domain and level of expertise. That the big advantage that TAMU has.


Its odd that he didn't bring in a transfer to supplant Mond
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
53425 posts
Posted on 1/23/21 at 10:23 am to
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This will be the third class in a row that is consistently T5 talent in 2022. 


Wait, I'm confused. According to 247 Sports, only your 2019 class was top 5.
Posted by ColoradoAg
Colorado
Member since Sep 2011
22459 posts
Posted on 1/23/21 at 10:24 am to
A game manager is a great QB when you are building your talent level. What happens last year if A&M plays a different style? I'll tell you. The weakness in the secondary is exposed, and everything becomes a shootout

Mond was great at protecting the ball and milking the clock. Something A&M has needed for the past few years, while building an SEC-level defense

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Wait, I'm confused. According to 247 Sports, only your 2019 class was top 5.

Around T5. A&M hasn't stacked classes like this in decades
This post was edited on 1/23/21 at 10:25 am
Posted by Windy City
Member since Jun 2019
1752 posts
Posted on 1/23/21 at 10:24 am to
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Nope. It’s because Texas is losing. It has nothing to with the best Aggie year ever, but still no championship.


I know this ignorant wishcasting makes you feel better at night, but both of the schools can't help but look at each other. They are 90 miles from each other and boosters and donors frequent the same circles of Dallas, Austin, Houston, San Antonio, etc.

Relative strength in one team impacts in-state recruiting for the other for sure. Herman's 2021 class was shaping up to be barely top 20 and 2022 was looking abysmal.

All that being said, Herman got bounced partly for not keeping up with in state programs but also for being an abrasive buffoon and a consistent 3 loss coach.
Posted by Windy City
Member since Jun 2019
1752 posts
Posted on 1/23/21 at 10:28 am to
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Aggies are constantly saying how much a cesspool Texas is yet they own you in the head to head series and have won 4 national championships since you won your last one.


I know the whole SAT logic is hard for you but you can have periodic success and still be a toxic cesspool. The two are not mutually exclusive.
Posted by Lemonpuppy
Mississippi
Member since May 2020
2709 posts
Posted on 1/23/21 at 10:29 am to
Lol Aggie fans think they are the shite after finishing second in the west. When Auburn and LSU get their shite together it will be hilarious
Posted by Hugh McElroy
Member since Sep 2013
17709 posts
Posted on 1/23/21 at 10:31 am to
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When Auburn and LSU get their shite together it will be hilarious


If you’re really a State fan, this is sad.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
53425 posts
Posted on 1/23/21 at 10:34 am to
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I know the whole SAT logic is hard for you but you can have periodic success and still be a toxic cesspool. The two are not mutually exclusive.


So how toxic of a cesspool is Aggie if they can't even have periodic success?
Posted by bamameister
Right here, right now
Member since May 2016
14584 posts
Posted on 1/23/21 at 10:35 am to
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Its odd that he didn't bring in a transfer to supplant Mond




Jimbo prides himself on being the QB whisperer. He likes to recruit and develop, he's been pretty good back to LSU. Even when QB James Foster wanted to transfer out he allowed him to stick around the program until he found his landing spot. That was impressive. Jimbo was just loyal to Mond like with his QBs at FSU. I think he enjoyed coaching Mond up and probably squeezed all the juice out of that orange he could.
Posted by Sneaky__Sally
Member since Jul 2015
12364 posts
Posted on 1/23/21 at 10:36 am to
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A&M people are some unjustifiably narcissistic sumbitches.


I was gonna go with like a football program version of napoleon complex - but probably a combination of the two
Posted by Pastor Mike
Florida
Member since Dec 2020
5218 posts
Posted on 1/23/21 at 10:39 am to
Sark is a better play-caller than Jimbo
Posted by ColoradoAg
Colorado
Member since Sep 2011
22459 posts
Posted on 1/23/21 at 10:45 am to
Sarkisian is a good OC. However, he is basically Riley without the program that Riley inherited. The defenses in the BDF have been chasing Riley for years, and are starting to figure him out as a result. Texas if smart would have hired a program builder like Campbell, or somebody like Mahlzahn that plays a different style that defenses in the BDF are not already prepared for. There was a truly fascinating take on this from some high school football coaches and analysts over on TexAgs not too long ago. Great football discussion

Also, Sark has failed dramatically as a HC that has to do more than run plays. And he is going into the pressure cooker of all pressure cookers at Texas. It will be interesting to see if he crashes and burns like he did at USC

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