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Texas hired Stark because Jimbo is winning

Posted on 1/23/21 at 8:11 am
Posted by Mud_Till_May
Member since Aug 2014
9685 posts
Posted on 1/23/21 at 8:11 am
Texas A&M has been a much better football school than UT. A&M should have made the playoffs and thats driving UT Boosters insane.
Posted by txtiger74
Dallas
Member since Feb 2013
90 posts
Posted on 1/23/21 at 8:19 am to
Nope. It’s because Texas is losing. It has nothing to with the best Aggie year ever, but still no championship.
Posted by Lemonpuppy
Mississippi
Member since May 2020
2709 posts
Posted on 1/23/21 at 8:20 am to
Sark hasn’t been a good head coach in his career so honestly hiring him and expecting him to bring that university back to prominence is nothing more than a shot in the dark. Same with Kiffin. Both are extremely good offensively, but when they are responsible for everything they have struggled so far. We will see, but that hire isn’t because of Jimbo. If they were going to hire someone because of Jimbo they would have big dicked and went for an actual head coach that they know is capable.
Posted by Shingo
Louisiana, USA
Member since Sep 2010
3841 posts
Posted on 1/23/21 at 8:22 am to
You mean like Urban Meyer?
Posted by Lemonpuppy
Mississippi
Member since May 2020
2709 posts
Posted on 1/23/21 at 8:24 am to
Exactly. They could have paid him enough to go back to college ball. Especially at Texas. The fact that he took the Jaguars job makes no sense if his health is really an issue. He won’t win in Jacksonville for a long time so how would that help his health?
Posted by 5Wide
Member since Jun 2013
1918 posts
Posted on 1/23/21 at 8:30 am to
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Texas hired Stark



Posted by Shingo
Louisiana, USA
Member since Sep 2010
3841 posts
Posted on 1/23/21 at 8:31 am to
It’s because Texas isn’t the destination job they think it is. I live in Austin and the names the local sports radio was throwing around before Sark was comical. John Harbaugh and Sean McVay to name two. Oklahoma dominates that conference
Posted by PenguinPubes
Frozen Tundra
Member since Jan 2018
10798 posts
Posted on 1/23/21 at 8:33 am to
They didn’t hire him bc jimbo is winning
Posted by shiner17
Lone Star State
Member since Jul 2017
440 posts
Posted on 1/23/21 at 8:34 am to
Maybe Urban realizes that Texas Boosters run the show down there, as Sark is finding out. He was all set to hire Mike Stoops as LB coach until the boosters nixed it.
This post was edited on 1/23/21 at 8:35 am
Posted by bamameister
Right here, right now
Member since May 2016
13880 posts
Posted on 1/23/21 at 8:42 am to
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Texas A&M has been a much better football school than UT. A&M should have made the playoffs and thats driving UT Boosters insane.




No one lives in a vacuum. Do they feel Jimbo's presence in the state, with the way he is gobbling up elite Texas recruits into the program, how could they not feel their presence? The playoff push has been national in scoop all season. The SEC and the West division is the pinnacle of college football and has not one peer in the Big 12. Little brother looks a look bigger in the SEC.

Posted by turnpiketiger
Southeast Texas
Member since May 2020
9406 posts
Posted on 1/23/21 at 9:17 am to
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Texas A&M has been a much better football school than UT.


Not really. They both won 1 NY6 bowl recently. They’re on equal footing
Posted by bamameister
Right here, right now
Member since May 2016
13880 posts
Posted on 1/23/21 at 9:24 am to
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The boosters already flexing their muscle on Sark. He wanted to hire Stoops and the boosters said nope, not going to happen. They control the program, not the coach. They always have, and it is one of the main reasons the place is such a cesspool

Worst fans in all of CFB with their expectations




Historically speaking, the barn has always been happier to see Alabama coaches than the other way around.
Posted by ColoradoAg
Colorado
Member since Sep 2011
21773 posts
Posted on 1/23/21 at 9:28 am to
What Texas fans haven't realized yet is that Fisher has built something sustainable at A&M. Will A&M ever win a championship? I don't know, because there is an element of luck in that. What I do know is that Fisher has changed A&M into an SEC team with a hard-nosed defense, and the ability to run the football on offense. A team capable of staying in the T10 consistently ...

The interesting part is that the success last year was with a bunch of three star Sumlin players that bought in to his vision. The next wave of players are all rated higher, and have learned from the seniors about what it takes to be successful

A&M will look different on offense next year, because the next QB isn't a game manager like Mond. Don't know if it will be better, but it will definitely be different. As far as talent goes, Fisher has raised the profile for A&M that we are no longer entirely dependent on Texas for talent. Horns will get some, and we will get some - always has been this way

2022 class is looking really good, and it doesn't matter what Texas does anymore - we will be just fine going forward because our trench recruiting is next level. Pretty soon we will be playing the elite in the SEC on an even playing field, which hasn't happened yet. Best is yet to come for A&M
Posted by JesusQuintana
St Louis
Member since Oct 2013
33366 posts
Posted on 1/23/21 at 9:34 am to
So they wouldn’t have tried to make the best hire they could if A&M was losing?

What?
Posted by bamameister
Right here, right now
Member since May 2016
13880 posts
Posted on 1/23/21 at 9:36 am to
For every Jameis Winston, EJ Manuel, or Christian Ponder in Jimbo's program, there has been a Dalvin Cook, DeVonta Freemen, or James Wilder. Jimbo coaches up the talent he recruits.
Posted by tgrmeat
Member since Sep 2020
4310 posts
Posted on 1/23/21 at 9:52 am to
A&M people are some unjustifiably narcissistic sumbitches.
Posted by weadjust
Member since Aug 2012
15079 posts
Posted on 1/23/21 at 9:55 am to
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Fisher has built something sustainable at A&M.


I agree. Never winning the West or the SEC is sustainable at A&M
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
52253 posts
Posted on 1/23/21 at 9:55 am to
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The boosters already flexing their muscle on Sark. He wanted to hire Stoops and the boosters said nope, not going to happen. They control the program, not the coach. They always have, and it is one of the main reasons the place is such a cesspool

Worst fans in all of CFB with their expectations


Aggies are constantly saying how much a cesspool Texas is yet they own you in the head to head series and have won 4 national championships since you won your last one.

Posted by ColoradoAg
Colorado
Member since Sep 2011
21773 posts
Posted on 1/23/21 at 9:56 am to
Agreed that Fisher has really coached up the talent. All of the coaches on our staff know how to "coach" as well as recruit, and it really shows. That entire OL with the exception of the younger player were 3* recruits that just worked hard. Their replacements have more talent, but not the experience

As much as we at A&M love to promote King, he is still unproven. What is not is the RB's - Spiller/Achane will be a pain for SEC defenses next year. And we have talent at WR, just need to see if they have the want to block and do all the other things that make a WR successful. Like little old 3* Anias Smith

I wasn't joking when I said Fisher was ahead of schedule. Those T10 recruiting classes are just now starting to becomee upperclassmen. The underclassmen are just as talented, so now we can begin to compete on an even talent level. Across the board, not just with the occasional superstar like Garrett or JFF.
Posted by Rogelio
Member since Jan 2021
935 posts
Posted on 1/23/21 at 9:59 am to
You hit the nail on the head.

These guys are being hired for their offensive acumen and expecting it to translate into head coaching genius.

It takes everything they have just to get their offenses clicking. While Sark is the head coach, I guarantee you that Sark will *not* have an offense at Texas like Bama's even if he had the same personnel.

What helps to make these guys successful when they *are* at Alabama is that Nick Saban has a structure in place where these "gurus" can focus on one thing and succeed at it at a super-elite level.

This is why guys like Kirby and Kiffin are not winning on the big stage. Kirby (if given enough time), I think can get there. So can Lane but it will take them years.

Unfortunately for Sark, he may not have enough time at Texas to build up to the program they're expecting (Bama level and beyond) within 2-3 years. Sark simply is not Saban 2007 but he will get paid. I think he's ultimately ok with that. I wish him the best.
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