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The future of NCAA football

Posted on 12/31/20 at 7:49 am
Posted by Kk74
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Posted on 12/31/20 at 7:49 am
There has been so much talk of parity this season. The conference only schedules had the opposite effect than I originally thought it would. It exposed weaknesses. None of us had the padding of a cupcake game or a weak p5 opponent. Not to mention the ‘rest’ the team could get when playing and prepping for those teams.

I hate to even put it out there, but I have wondered what rules they will try to make to even the playing field. My first thought was that they put a limit to how many 4 and 5 stars you can recruit each cycle, but I think it is going to end up being how large your staff is or something else along those lines. Maybe it is the salary the assistants are paid. Everyone is tired of the same teams in the playoffs. The last time there was this much talk, the bcs was done away with in favor of the playoff.

So what do you think happens next?
Posted by Pastor Mike
Florida
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Posted on 12/31/20 at 7:51 am to
I think "next" is playoff expansion.
Posted by bamapoet
North Alabama
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 12/31/20 at 7:57 am to
They'll go to an 11 game schedule--9 conference games and an 8 team playoff.
Posted by RT1941
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Posted on 12/31/20 at 7:59 am to
Expand the playoff.
Posted by bstew3006
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Posted on 12/31/20 at 8:02 am to
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The future of NCAA football


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So what do you think happens next?


Expansion of the CFP to 8 to help cut down on opt-outs and create some disparity in recruiting.

Then shortly after, 16 team playoff.
Posted by Arksulli
Fayetteville
Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 12/31/20 at 8:04 am to
Well a lot of what is "wrong" with college football is that it is getting pretty boring to be honest. At the beginning of the season you can write in Ohio State as the Big 10 champ. Clemson as the ACC champ. Oklahoma as the Big 12 champ. You can probably go ahead and write Bama down as the SEC champ (5 of the last 8). And no one cares who wins the PAC 12.

How thrilling it must be to be a fan of Michigan State and know that you are hoping for a once in a decade type season to unseat Ohio State. Or for Georgia Tech fans who can comfortably rest easy in the knowledge they won't be adding a championship banner in the coming year.

I don't know how we can restore parity to big time college football but I do know that if things don't change attendance is going to continue to decline, even after we get out from under this plague.
Posted by Leto II
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Member since Dec 2018
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Posted on 12/31/20 at 8:04 am to
frick. I was hoping this was about a new EA Sports game
Posted by Bham Bammer
Member since Nov 2014
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Posted on 12/31/20 at 8:05 am to
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They'll go to an 11 game schedule--9 conference games and an 8 team playoff.

You’re dreaming if you think conferences will stop playing championship games. Those are big money makers.
Posted by Reeves40
USA
Member since Dec 2019
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Posted on 12/31/20 at 8:06 am to
The playoffs need to be expanded to at least 8 teams . Allowing more in including undefeated G5 Conference Champion. Also, this year showed us that All Conferences can play more conferences games . Normal years the Big 10, Pac 12 and Big 12 play 9 conference games where SEC and ACC play 8 . No more easy FCS games late in the season for some conferences. How is that fair to other conferences that are playing within their conference? IMO, No Power 5 team should be playing FCS teams. There is enough Group 5 teams for Power 5 to schedule early in the season. Most will still have an easy win. If the NCAA does anything it should be at least make all conferences have the same schedule rules. 3 OOC games at the beginning of the year, 9 Conference games, No FCS games for Power 5 teams. Reality is it won't change anytime soon. Big money talks. The one thing they can do now is end the Conference divisions. The top 2 teams in a conference plays for their Conference title. This could result in a different conference champ each year.
This post was edited on 12/31/20 at 8:09 am
Posted by Big4SALTbro
Member since Jun 2019
21023 posts
Posted on 12/31/20 at 8:07 am to
LSU broke college football, Leonard started this by opting out of the bama game each year, and the the bowl game. Then Chase becoming the first jr. Opt out.
Posted by Kk74
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Member since Jun 2017
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Posted on 12/31/20 at 8:07 am to
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frick. I was hoping this was about a new EA Sports game


I’m sorry to let you down. Lol. And when i posted this, the other similar threads hadn’t shown up on my feed yet.
Posted by Big4SALTbro
Member since Jun 2019
21023 posts
Posted on 12/31/20 at 8:09 am to
Big let down, a NCAA game would fix this lol
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 12/31/20 at 8:10 am to
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I think "next" is playoff expansion.







I think you are right but I still struggle with how anyone thinks it makes sense that to “increase parity” that we need to make it easier for bama and clemson to make the playoffs
This post was edited on 12/31/20 at 8:14 am
Posted by VADawg
Wherever
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 12/31/20 at 8:12 am to
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My first thought was that they put a limit to how many 4 and 5 stars you can recruit each cycle


This won't happen because it can be so easily manipulated by a friendly staffer at Rivals.

I do think a full FCS model is coming and I think it is good for the long term health of the sport. 16 team playoff where all conference champions get an autobid. College football is the only sport where every team doesn't have a path to a championship at the start of the season. That needs to change to give the elite players incentive to play at some other places.

As much as I hate it, modern players do not give a shite about rivalries or playing for the pride of their home state school. They're following the NBA model of teaming up to win championships because that's all that matters anymore.

Also, I would be an advocate of making admissions standards the same for athletes as they are for everyone else. Kids who are too stupid to spell their own names and don't care about college should not be playing college football.
This post was edited on 12/31/20 at 8:14 am
Posted by Big4SALTbro
Member since Jun 2019
21023 posts
Posted on 12/31/20 at 8:12 am to
Yea a 8 tram playoff will devalue the regular season.
Posted by Bham Bammer
Member since Nov 2014
15277 posts
Posted on 12/31/20 at 8:12 am to
Bama and Clemson are making it anyway. Expanding is about the other teams.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Member since Oct 2008
86592 posts
Posted on 12/31/20 at 8:12 am to
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My first thought was that they put a limit to how many 4 and 5 stars you can recruit each cycle, but I think it is going to end up being how large your staff is or something else along those lines. Maybe it is the salary the assistants are paid


Of these 3 you literally can’t do #1 or #3. And with #2 they just did the opposite adding a 10th coach.

I don’t see a heavy amount of the same teams in a relatively small sample of playoff years as a problem, but that it’s so concentrated among the south and a few teams in the Midwest is. That and the increasing opt outs is a problem for the sport.

I was originally against a playoff for this very reason, and the bowls have been neutered much faster than I thought they would. We’re here though, and playoff expansion is the only solution as simultaneously it opens up access to other parts of the country as well as Cinderella stories from G5, while at the same time increasing the number of “meaningful games” (I hate that phrase).

They should go straight from 4 to 16 but we’ll have to deal with 10 years or so of 8 first. It is what it is.
This post was edited on 12/31/20 at 8:13 am
Posted by lsu777
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 12/31/20 at 8:15 am to
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To me it's not even about the bowl game opt outs, as others suggested, kids will get 5 or 6 good games on tape and start quiting earlier and earlier.

I didn't want playoffs as I thought it would be a thing we're everyone was seen as a loser if they didn't make it, I and many others were correct. It's been horrible for college football as a whole.

Unfortunately there is no putting the genie back in the bottle and only way to really save cfb as we know it is as follows

Lower scholarship limits to a max of 70, 20 kids per class, grad transfers don't count toward the class, only total. Have to have parity somewhat and all parts of the country involved or you are fricksd long term and we revert back to it being a regionalism sport.

Kids gets one free transfer out of conference after freshman year only. After that it's a 2 year sit out unless it's a grad transfer. No hardships or any other bullshite. No the coach is leaving bullshite, no some random fan called me a mean name bullshite, no I got beat out bullshite, no I'm mentally ill bulkshit. You get 1 and only after freshman year. Or bust your arse and graduate, otherwise stfu

All coachingbstaffs have the same number of on field coaches and a max amount of analysts allowed and also max amount of other behind the scene personel allowed.

Expand the playoffs to 16 teams. 5 conference champs, 11 at large. This is if G5 wants to stay apart of it. If not, just do 8. If 16, we need to cut it to 8 conferences. 5 power plus 3 smaller conferences. Win one of the smaller conferences with 1 loss or fewer and you are in if you also have a win over a p5 team.

Use original bcs formula to make up 50% of seeding, playoff committee ranking for other 50%. Seed 1-16.

Cut regular season to 8 conference games for all conferences. All conferences must have championship game. 8 conference and 2 non conference games.

All bowls but the biggest 4 are moved to the season opening weekend, labor day weekend.

Comfernece championship is played 1st Saturday in December.

1st round is 3rd Saturday in December. Played on site of the conference champions or higher seed if 2 non conference champions are playing against each other.

2nd round(round of 8) is played new years day at the four big bowls. Can bid this out, but my suggestion would be

Sugar- 8:45 pm
Rose - 5:30 pm
Orange- 2 pm
Cotton- 10:30 am

You are taking back new years day. Its your day and it would be huge.


Semifinals on one of the middle Saturdays in January, usually close to 10 days, but can't be more that 2 weeks after round of 8. This is played on the campus of the conference champion or the higher seed. This year it would be on the 9th, a simple one week

Finals are the Saturday before the super bowl at a site bid out. Make it huge like the superbowl. Huge half time show, huge pre game show etc.

It works cause it keeps teams in the race much longer. It also works because it gets all sides of the country involved. It works because no more super teams or the same two teams playing every year. It will hurt the big boys, including lsu, but overall it's good for the sport snd only way it survives long term.

Players wouldn't opt out cause they would have something to play for. Preserves the bowl system with them being at the beginning and allows a ton of flexibility in scheduling. You could even have conference challenges like big 10 vs pac 12 etc etc cause one or two losses doesn't kill you anymore.

It puts the emphases on conference champions. Gives the G5 the ability to create 3 really good conferences and ability to get in and pkay for it all. Gives them the ability to host, etc etc.

I'm good with the sport going back to a really regionalized sport like the 70s-90s, but realize all the money stops flowing then too


You can't control number of 4 and 5 stars, won't work as who is to say who is what. Limit number of scholarship players.

This year shows it can easily be done.
Posted by bamapoet
North Alabama
Member since Nov 2011
557 posts
Posted on 12/31/20 at 8:15 am to
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You’re dreaming if you think conferences will stop playing championship games. Those are big money makers.


I don't think they will do away with the conference championship game.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Member since Oct 2008
86592 posts
Posted on 12/31/20 at 8:16 am to
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I think you are right but I still struggle with joe anyone thinks it makes sense that to “increase parity” that we need to make it easier for bama and clemson to make the playoffs


Those teams will rotate out as Saban retires and if you expand then Dabo won’t be able to recruit going to the playoff so often as much.

It’s the new “we’re on national tv all the time” recruiting pitch. The period between everyone being on TV and the advent of the playoff saw a lot of teams have chances for success and we even nearly had a g5 team make the title game more than once. It was in many way the golden era of the sport. The only way to bring that back is expand playoff access.
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