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re: Comparing Kirby Smart and Mark Richt at similar points in their tenure at Georgia

Posted on 10/20/20 at 12:44 pm to
Posted by bamameister
Right here, right now
Member since May 2016
14467 posts
Posted on 10/20/20 at 12:44 pm to
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And you're clearly acting like you know more about UGA and Kirby than you actually do since it's been explained numerous times how flawed the classes were that followed. That 2017 had studs and great leadership. Richt's classes that were Kirby's upperclassmen after that were duds and they are just now getting to be replaced with upperclassmen who are recruited by Kirby.


Kirby spent more time over in Tuscaloosa than Athens Einstien. So yeah, we know Kirby and his conservative approach to college football. And that is exactly what he has built and coaches now.

So far, after 5 campaigns in the east, Kirby has built a heavy 12 personnel team to play downhill in the SEC. When he goes 11 personnel, bad things happen. As they did Saturday night. If he ever gets past that phobia and joins the 21st century he well knows that his pride and joy, his defense is going to start taking it on the chin. He might have a nervous breakdown.

It's bound to happen sooner or later. There are just so many butt-kickings and losses you can take on the biggest stage before reality bites you in the azz.
Posted by TheJimBrown7
Member since Mar 2017
663 posts
Posted on 10/20/20 at 12:59 pm to
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You are 100% ignoring where Saban started his coaching career and where Smart started his.


You’re 100% not able to grasp my point. Saban improved as a head coach , meaning he went from averaging 8-4 seasons to 10-3, to eventually a national championship in his 4th season at LSU and his 10th overall season as a head coach at the ripe age of 52 years old. Saban lost his first 3 bowl games as a head coach for fricks sake, he is the greatest coach of all time but took lumps along the way and — wait for it — Grew as a head coach. Kirby is 44 and has 5 years experience as head coach. Of course Georgia is a better position to be in than Toledo, that has nothing to do with my points haha.

Is it insane to say Kirby could improve on his head coaching abilities? He’s In year 5 overall and is in his early 40s. Lol. Bama fans are hilarious
This post was edited on 10/20/20 at 1:00 pm
Posted by tider04
North Carolina
Member since Oct 2007
5606 posts
Posted on 10/20/20 at 1:25 pm to
Could he improve? Yes. Will he improve? 5 years into it at a top 5 program he seems to have the same issues he did day 1. Yes, some coaches do improve. The greats do. But for every Saban example, I can give you 100 Les Miles, Larry Coker, Mark Richt, Gene Chizik type examples. If you’re banking on Kirby being the next Saban, the odds aren’t in your favor. He’s the GOAT for a reason and Kirby ain’t in his league.
Posted by TheJimBrown7
Member since Mar 2017
663 posts
Posted on 10/20/20 at 1:28 pm to
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If you’re banking on Kirby being the next Saban, the odds aren’t in your favor. He’s the GOAT for a reason and Kirby ain’t in his league.


More genius analysis from Tider04 folks. The best coach of all time is better than another coach he’s 3-0 against?? Please tell me more. lolol these Bama fans think having the GOAT equates to their retarded fan base actually having knowledge on the game lol. It’s fricking hilarious
Posted by GBJs
Jacksonville, FL
Member since Dec 2012
3902 posts
Posted on 10/20/20 at 1:53 pm to
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Bama wasn’t good enough to make it to the SECC in 2017 then got placed in the playoff despite going 1-1 against ranked opponents that year.


Yep... thank goodness Alabama only had to beat Georgia... else we might not have number 17 in Tuscaloosa.
Posted by tider04
North Carolina
Member since Oct 2007
5606 posts
Posted on 10/20/20 at 1:57 pm to
What's hilarious is dawg fans rationalizing why your coach has built one of the most talented rosters in CFB and still can't get over the hump. He's a better recruiting version of Mark Richt...but...but...but...he cans get better guyz, just like Saban did at Toledo guyz...it's the same thing. The Kang is gonna be the next great. Just give him one more year, just wait till next year, next time. Dawgs are comin'. Your fan base is a joke.
Posted by Crowknowsbest
Member since May 2012
25887 posts
Posted on 10/20/20 at 1:59 pm to
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If you’re banking on Kirby being the next Saban, the odds aren’t in your favor.

No one is banking on him being the next Saban.
Posted by LSU Patrick
Member since Jan 2009
73576 posts
Posted on 10/20/20 at 1:59 pm to
I hope he stays at UGA for 10 more years.
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
65147 posts
Posted on 10/20/20 at 2:02 pm to
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You’re 100% not able to grasp my point.


It is far more likely that Kirby Smart becomes the second coming of Mark Richt than the second coming of Nick Saban. History is against him. Richt himself was a young, up-and-coming coach back in 2005 as well. I mean...shite, even their ages are virtually the same. Richt was 45 in 2005 and Kirby is 45 in 2020. Everything about those two, from their age to their records at the same point in their careers, are virtually identical.

This post was edited on 10/20/20 at 2:02 pm
Posted by TheJimBrown7
Member since Mar 2017
663 posts
Posted on 10/20/20 at 2:32 pm to
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Richt...but...but...but...he cans get better guyz, just like Saban did at Toledo guyz...it's the same thing. The Kang is gonna be the next great.


Lol I can’t even read this. Way to live up to the stereotype of the illiterate Alabama fan.
Posted by TheJimBrown7
Member since Mar 2017
663 posts
Posted on 10/20/20 at 2:37 pm to
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Your fan base is a joke.


Lol the bigger joke is Bama fans actually thinking they know what they’re talking about bc they have the best coach. I just had to sift through broken grammar like a gold miner from some retard inbred deriving validation from Saban’s success hahaha.

If that’s not comedic gold I don’t know what is lolol
Posted by TheJimBrown7
Member since Mar 2017
663 posts
Posted on 10/20/20 at 2:39 pm to
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It is far more likely that Kirby Smart becomes the second coming of Mark Richt than the second coming of Nick Saban.


Ya don’t say? It’s far more likely for a head coach in college to not be the best of all time than to be the best coach of all time? How many algorithms did you need to run to figure that one out Einstein? Lolol
Posted by dirty bastard
Delacroix, Georgia
Member since Aug 2020
2142 posts
Posted on 10/20/20 at 3:02 pm to
Yes, they are similar their first few years, but Richt started off real good, but faded. How long did it take Saban after his first head coach job, to start winning championships? Same with Dabo?
Posted by Dawgfanman
Member since Jun 2015
22630 posts
Posted on 10/20/20 at 3:20 pm to
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It is far more likely that Kirby Smart becomes the second coming of Mark Richt than the second coming of Nick Saban. History is against him. Richt himself was a young, up-and-coming coach back in 2005 as well. I mean...shite, even their ages are virtually the same. Richt was 45 in 2005 and Kirby is 45 in 2020. Everything about those two, from their age to their records at the same point in their careers, are virtually identical.


If he has a family crisis, decides to spend less time on coaching, hires friends and refuses to fire them, and starts badly mismanaging the roster numbers at OL and other positions then yes, he will become Mark Richt.
Posted by atrueamerican
New England
Member since Oct 2019
508 posts
Posted on 10/20/20 at 3:41 pm to
Mark was a far better football coach than Kirby. Everyone in the coaching circles understand this fact.

Kirby is just good at selling fricking snake oil to 17 year olds.
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
27305 posts
Posted on 10/20/20 at 3:52 pm to
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Mark was a far better football coach than Kirby


Yeah,he really proved that at Miami

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Everyone


Like who?

Do you really think a P5 college would choose Richt over Kirby if they fired their coach tomorrow?
Posted by DawgFanDave
Member since Oct 2013
261 posts
Posted on 10/20/20 at 4:10 pm to
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Mark was a far better football coach than Kirby. Everyone in the coaching circles understand this fact.

Based on...?
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
33088 posts
Posted on 10/20/20 at 4:11 pm to
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it were so retarded, I would think Georgia posters would have no trouble ignoring the comparison.


You made a retarded point right here. It must be contagious.
Posted by Smokeyone
Maryville Tn
Member since Jul 2016
16170 posts
Posted on 10/20/20 at 4:17 pm to
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Yeah,he really proved that at Miami


Let’s see how Kirby does post UGA. UGA just drained the life and will out of CMR. He just mailed it in at Miami.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
33088 posts
Posted on 10/20/20 at 4:17 pm to
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you're not paying attention. Kirby's best team was slam full of Mark Richt's skilled players. That's the group we met in 2017 for the natty. These days, I see a lot of beef on the hoof but nowhere near the skill level of that '17 team.


An argument can be made that his 2018 team was better, and that’s when the richt guys were gone.
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