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re: Looks Like Stafford Has Covid

Posted on 8/3/20 at 9:35 am to
Posted by BeefDawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
4747 posts
Posted on 8/3/20 at 9:35 am to
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You’re such a whiny little bitch bringing Obama up when nobody else did. Good job deflecting, you mindless slave. Can you please provide data on H1N1 and Ebola deaths in the U.S? I wasn’t aware they killed more than COVID-19.
Jesus H Christmas, you brought up Trump for no fricking reason when nobody else did, and you're sitting here bitching about someone bringing up Obama.

You are so fricking insane and fricked in the head you don't even realize when you're being an obnoxious hypocrite doing EXACTLY what you're bitching about someone else doing.

frickin idiot.
Posted by SCDawg95
Fayetteville ,NC
Member since Oct 2019
5836 posts
Posted on 8/3/20 at 9:57 am to
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You Trumpkins are such whiny little bitches that you can’t handle anything your toupéed messiah says you should not believe. How does he know this? Because virtually the entire medical field says so. I don’t personally understand how nuclear fission works, but I can affirmatively say that it works because I trust scientists. You whiny little bitches care more about “owning the libs” than actually living your life or getting back to normal. You call us snowflakes, and yet you went 0 to 60 with no provocation other than an implicit partisan trigger. frick you.
MAGA Trump 2020
Posted by baconwaffle
Houston
Member since Jan 2013
589 posts
Posted on 8/3/20 at 11:12 am to
Awww poor Beef woke up on the wrong side of the bed!

The issue here is relevance. Trump is extremely relevant because he is our leader right now, with all the power in the world. Obama isn’t. Trump is extremely relevant because he is fricking this situation up.

ETA - and lets be real. Even if y’all don’t mention Trump by name, he is at the very heart your denial, so I really wasn’t the one bringing him up. Hypothetically, if the OP made an incorrect statement about car mechanics, gardening, or even another medical issue unrelated to COVID, I can damn well guarantee he wouldn’t be attacked like he was. What’s the difference? His statement on COVID is harmful to Trump, which is why you automatons rush to defend your side.
This post was edited on 8/3/20 at 11:30 am
Posted by DawgCountry
Great State of GA
Member since Sep 2012
30620 posts
Posted on 8/3/20 at 11:51 am to
quote:

His statement on COVID is harmful to Trump


except that its just speculation at best so there is no point in getting on worked up like you are.
Posted by tgdawg68
Georgia
Member since Dec 2019
570 posts
Posted on 8/3/20 at 12:15 pm to
quote:

lets be real

The reality is that, given that he is a professional athlete in his early 30s, Stafford will likely be asymptomatic or at worst have a sniffle for a couple of days. The OP's statement about long term effects in this case are simply dumb or intentionally obtuse.

But it aligns with OMB

Posted by RedPants
GA
Member since Jan 2013
5456 posts
Posted on 8/3/20 at 12:37 pm to
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given that he is a professional athlete in his early 30s, Stafford will likely be asymptomatic or at worst have a sniffle for a couple of days.

The odds are he'll be fine. But ask Freddie Freeman if a young pro athlete can get their arse kicked by it.
Posted by baconwaffle
Houston
Member since Jan 2013
589 posts
Posted on 8/3/20 at 12:47 pm to
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except that its just speculation


It’s not speculation. There are confirmed cases of apparent permanent organ damage from COVID. It’s just not clear 1) why it happens, 2) how frequently it happens, and 3) whether the damage is truly permanent or if it can be healed.

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getting on worked up like you are

I’m not worked up. I’m not the one stringing ten expletives together before noon like rotten Beef boy.
Posted by BeefDawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
4747 posts
Posted on 8/3/20 at 1:01 pm to
quote:

Awww poor Beef woke up on the wrong side of the bed!

The issue here is relevance. Trump is extremely relevant because he is our leader right now, with all the power in the world. Obama isn’t. Trump is extremely relevant because he is fricking this situation up.

ETA - and lets be real. Even if y’all don’t mention Trump by name, he is at the very heart your denial, so I really wasn’t the one bringing him up. Hypothetically, if the OP made an incorrect statement about car mechanics, gardening, or even another medical issue unrelated to COVID, I can damn well guarantee he wouldn’t be attacked like he was. What’s the difference? His statement on COVID is harmful to Trump, which is why you automatons rush to defend your side.
You got the TDS and that's abundantly clear.

The deflection here is that you're so fricking hardup to shite on Trump, your ONLY goddamn "defense" is to say we're hardup to defend him or tow his line.

You're so fricking blind, you don't even realize you're doing this and that it's WAY WORSE.

Dipshits hating on us and ours = we are entitled to defend ourselves.

That's how this country and everything is supposed to work.

You assholes get bent because we defend against your bullshite and hate, which is fricking insane.

You think you're ENTITLED to attack, accuse, and virtue signal, and we're just supposed to take it up the arse. Well frick you, you retarded assclown.
This post was edited on 8/3/20 at 1:02 pm
Posted by baconwaffle
Houston
Member since Jan 2013
589 posts
Posted on 8/3/20 at 1:12 pm to
If I’m actually blind, I’d like to see. Please explain to me how Trump is winning this situation when most of the rest of the developed world has this under control. I’m not being facetious. If there is something I’m genuinely missing, I’m willing to learn.

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say we're hardup to defend him or tow his line

And yet you don’t deny this accusation. I don’t understand why you defend everything he does. I voted for Obama because I viewed him as much better than the alternatives, but I still disagreed with many things he did, and I would say so.
Posted by BeefDawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
4747 posts
Posted on 8/3/20 at 1:14 pm to
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It’s not speculation. There are confirmed cases of apparent permanent organ damage from COVID. It’s just not clear 1) why it happens, 2) how frequently it happens, and 3) whether the damage is truly permanent or if it can be healed.
154,000 deaths, less than 900 have been between ages 25-34, less than 150 have been between ages 15-24, and less than 25 have been under the age of 15.

But yeah, let's make sure to bring up all the horrible shite that could have happened to Stafford before even mentioning that he may actually be asymptomatic or even negative and just held out because he was exposed.

Let's go right to the worst case scenario bullshite.

frick you.
Posted by BeefDawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
4747 posts
Posted on 8/3/20 at 1:53 pm to
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If I’m actually blind, I’d like to see. Please explain to me how Trump is winning this situation when most of the rest of the developed world has this under control. I’m not being facetious. If there is something I’m genuinely missing, I’m willing to learn.
This has been re-hashed and argued, and subsequently ignored and denied by you fricks over and over, so nothing I say here will resonate with you.

He shut down travel EARLY and got called a xenophobe for it.

To this day, you mother frickers insist he didn't do anything early on, downplayed it, and therefore caused more deaths, which is bullshite. All while ignoring the fact the Dems were the one's downplaying it and criticizing him for trying to shut down travel and send PPE to Europe and China to try and slow it's spread to us.

We never ran out of PPE, hospital beds, nor did hospitals get over-run. We flattened the curse 2 fricking months ago, and shite was supposed to start to open up once that happened. But even after it did, you assholes still shite on him like he and Repub Governors were doing something wrong.

All while you didn't say shite about violent protesters rubbing elbows without masks for the last 2 months.

But Trump holding rallies is bad... "peaceful" (not) protests GREAT!

And let's totally ignore the slew of Democrat Governors sending sick people into fricking nursing homes... because OMB is somehow worse. ALL the deaths are OMB's fault. All the hospitalizations are on Trump. All the cases and increase in cases are on Trump, somehow.

If he tries to help, Dem Governors tell him to frickoff and media calls him authoritarian/Hitler. If he says fine, you fend for yourself, Dem Governors and the media bitch he's causing deaths and making things worse.

We are testing more than anyone (so of course cases are going up), while the hospitalizations leveled off and deaths went WAY DOWN, so what do you shite stains do? You change the narrative to "CASES"!

"CASES ARE WAY UP! SO OMB IS EVEN MORE OMB!!"

Cases.... fricking cases. Ignoring the fact that cases are up here over the rest of the world because we're testing more than the rest of the world. AND, they're not really up over everyone else per-capita.

Hospitalizations went up for a bit because of goddamn protests and opening cities/towns back up, but deaths continued to drop.

And even then, all we saw were media reports and you fricktards crying about hospitalizations, but when we looked deeper, most hospitals were barely at 10-20% capacity with open beds out the wazoo.

HCQ + zinc + Z-pack is being touted by medical professionals all over the globe as a successful treatment, but you pieces of shite somehow turned Trump into OMBx9000 for even mentioning it... because some dipshit's drank fish tank cleaner.

Why in the hell are you guys and the Left shitting on this treatment? How do you not understand that Big Pharma is behind this bullshite because they are in line to lose BILLIONS if HCQ actually is a viable treatment?

How is it possible you're so dumb and naive that you don't realize "scientists", the media, and politicians will lie, and are lying, because they are in the pocket of Big Pharma, and/or are so politically motivated they will say and do anything to help their political agenda (defeat DJT)?

Masks are supposed to work, but when virtually everyone is wearing masks, "CASES" are still going up, so somehow this means masks do work? You fricking retards don't even know you're contradicting yourselves with this bullshite, you're so far gone with this nonsense.

We have 50k-80k deaths a year from the flu, and that's with probably 200+ million people having flu antibodies and/or being on a flu vaccine.

And you idiots can't get your head around what will happen to COVID when 200+ million people have antibodies and/or are on a COVID vaccine.

You refuse to take this into consideration when we say this thing is going to be only mildly worse than the flu, and only for a very specific faction of the population (vulnerable/elderly/co-morbidity pre-ex).

Hence why we NEED herd-immunity to happen.


This country needs to open back up. The economic harm that's happening is going to be 1000x worse than anything COVID is doing.

But I truly believe that's what you Lefties want. You'll never admit it, but you are secretly happy if the economy goes to shite so you can have one more fricking thing to try and hate on Trump and the Right and Capitalism for.

Hell, it's already happening. Turn on CNN/MSNBC or just check the idiot comments from Lefties on Trump's tweets. They're already shitting all over Trump for "the horrible economy and unemployment numbers".

I mean how fricking dishonest can you assholes be to try and blame him for the economy and unemployment being shitty right now??? But your peeps are still doing it in droves, as if it's fact. It's just mind-boggling insanity.


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And yet you don’t deny this accusation. I don’t understand why you defend everything he does. I voted for Obama because I viewed him as much better than the alternatives, but I still disagreed with many things he did, and I would say so.

There are absolutely things I disagree with Trump on, but why the frick would I ever dwell on those things when 1. There's so many more things I agree with him on and appreciate him doing, and 2. I'm in perpetual defensive mode trying to argue against the lies and deceit and false narratives made up daily and in absurd quantities by the Left.

I mean just look at the beginning of this post. You're not going to believe anything I say. You're dead set that he's made this worse and not done anything for this country even though that's 100% false. You've been a hypocrite all over this thread and refuse to see it. But that's the shite I/we contend with all day every goddamn day. frickin pricks like you who are dishonest pieces of shite that we have to defend against.


Watch some Tim Pool podcast. Go back a year or two and see the transition they've made from anti-Trump Liberals/Progressives, to feeling the need to defend Trump on the daily. Do it with Joe Rogan, Jimmy Dore, the Weinstein brothers... etc. etc. There are dozens out there.

People who like me were merely middle of the road and floated along the political spectrum, some lefty ideals, some righty ideals... and use to not be fans of Trump. But after doing research, and watching the Left/Dems/Media/dipshit lemmings like you lie and spew bullshite fallacy every fricking day for 4 straight years, all we can do is defend the guy with the truth, as a direct result of YOUR TDS.

But we're the one's with the problem. The people who defend against your accusations and narratives that we have done research to learn is false. That we can clearly see you are parroting from the media and Dems who are obnoxiously dishonest and deceitful.

Wrong.
This post was edited on 8/3/20 at 2:52 pm
Posted by FinleyStreet
Member since Aug 2011
7912 posts
Posted on 8/3/20 at 4:23 pm to
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How is it possible you're so dumb and naive that you don't realize "scientists", the media, and politicians will lie, and are lying, because they are in the pocket of Big Pharma, and/or are so politically motivated they will say and do anything to help their political agenda (defeat DJT)?


Most of these COVID-related studies end up showing similar results whether they're looking at mask effectiveness or HCQ treatment, etc. High-quality studies are performed independently of each other. So, it would require quite a bit of collusion from the scientific community to falsify results. What kind of support can you provide showing Big Pharma or the Left is padding the pockets of scientists who engage in these types of studies to skew results in favor Democratic outcomes?
Posted by baconwaffle
Houston
Member since Jan 2013
589 posts
Posted on 8/3/20 at 6:01 pm to
quote:

This has been re-hashed and argued, and subsequently ignored and denied by you fricks over and over, so nothing I say here will resonate with you.

No it hasn't? As I said, we do not have COVID under control. Most of the rest of the developed world does. South Korea, for example, despite being an incredibly densely populated country, has new daily numbers under 50. If you haven't noticed, virtually the entire world has us on a travel ban. But please, I have a bad memory, so indulge me one last time and explain why these countries are wrong and our administration is right.

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He shut down travel EARLY and got called a xenophobe for it.

I don't know any credible individual who called him a xenophobe for stopping travel from China. One of the few things I think Trump did right. He needed to have shut down all travel, however. The genotyping on the virus that wrecked NYC showed it probably traveled from China to Europe, and then from Europe into the U.S.

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We never ran out of PPE, hospital beds, nor did hospitals get over-run. We flattened the curse 2 fricking months ago, and shite was supposed to start to open up once that happened. But even after it did, you assholes still shite on him like he and Repub Governors were doing something wrong.

We flattened it then, but NEWS FLASH, it's not flat anymore. Nobody ever said we could go back to life as normal when we reopened after the initial lockdown. Because people refuse to wear masks and socially distance, cases are spiking, and hospitals will be overwhelmed in the near-future.

quote:

All while you didn't say shite about violent protesters rubbing elbows without masks for the last 2 months.

Non-sequitur. But virtually all of the anti-police brutality protesters I have seen wear masks. To the extent that ANYBODY doesn't wear a mask? I have a problem with them. But don't equate a random dude with the President, who until recently mocked wearing masks.





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Hence why we NEED herd-immunity to happen.

As I have said before, herd immunity only works if the virus doesn't mutate. The virus has not been around long enough for us to determine that. And even if it doesn't mutate, our body has to retain antibodies for a lengthy period of time to effect herd immunity. For some viruses, our body retains antigens our entire lives, but for other viruses, only a matter of months.

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The economic harm that's happening is going to be 1000x worse than anything COVID is doing. But I truly believe that's what you Lefties want.

That's pretty sad you believe that. What I want most is to be able to take my kids out, to visit friends, to day drink in public, and to not be barred from spending the better part of my summer hunting in Canada like I do every year. I want a leader who delivers results, and who doesn't downplay, deflect, or pass the buck onto someone else.

I'm not going to respond to the rest of your Q-Anon fever dreams.

Go Dawgs.
Posted by BeefDawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
4747 posts
Posted on 8/3/20 at 6:41 pm to
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Most of these COVID-related studies end up showing similar results whether they're looking at mask effectiveness or HCQ treatment, etc. High-quality studies are performed independently of each other. So, it would require quite a bit of collusion from the scientific community to falsify results. What kind of support can you provide showing Big Pharma or the Left is padding the pockets of scientists who engage in these types of studies to skew results in favor Democratic outcomes?

The fact there are N+X scientists and doctors who say one thing and N+X scientists and doctors who contradict the other and say the opposite means that somebody is wrong and somebody is right.

And because the media lies all day every fricking day while doing everything in their power to manufacture politically motivated false narratives, I'm logically going to side with the scientists and doctors who are willing to contradict the media and anyone who pushes those bullshite false narratives.

If CNN is going to push a goddamn story about a couple who drank fish tank cleaner because it had HCQ as one of it's ingredients, and then blame Trump for the husband's death, and then try to suggest that this is somehow rationale for why HCQ doesn't work and is bad for you, and Trump is evil for even mentioning it...

...and then CNN throws a bunch of scientists and doctors on the screen repeating that HCQ is bad for you and not a viable treatment...

Then I'm going to believe those scientists and doctors are either fricking retards, political animals, or they are motivated by something else... and more logic tells me money is probably that something else if there is anything else other than political agenda or idiocy.

And if money is involved, who's at risk to gain or lose the most money when it comes to HCQ being a viable treatment or not? Big Pharma, that's who.


All you have to do is connect the dots. When you finally stop thinking that CNN and the media are credible, and you actually investigate and see their countless lies and willful deceit, it becomes very clear to you that nobody associated with them has any credibility, either.

That's how credibility works. You get none if you're pushing the narrative of habitual liars.

If they push a narrative, it's fricking bullshite and there's assuredly greed, money, power, manipulation, corruption, malfeasance, and political agenda surrounding their intent.


And if you don't know this or see it, I can't do anything for you but call you an idiot.

And don't throw Fox News bullshite at me. I don't watch that shite either.
Posted by BeefDawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
4747 posts
Posted on 8/3/20 at 7:47 pm to
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No it hasn't? As I said, we do not have COVID under control. Most of the rest of the developed world does. South Korea, for example, despite being an incredibly densely populated country, has new daily numbers under 50. If you haven't noticed, virtually the entire world has us on a travel ban. But please, I have a bad memory, so indulge me one last time and explain why these countries are wrong and our administration is right.
Idiocy, as expected.

There are no relative comparisons out there. Nobody has the freedom, laws, wealth, access, demographics, and diversity of cultures we do.

Some governments in other countries make laws and rules and people follow them or they get fricking murdered or sent to camps.

There are so many absurd differences between us and others that there's not one single relative comparison out there.

You can sit here and lecture us like you know what a different administration would be doing and act like you know it would be better, as if they'd be following suit of some other freaking country that supposedly/allegedly/probably really doesn't have this shite "under control" (which is just another bullshite subjective term veiled in political agenda), but you don't actually know this.

You don't really have a fricking clue what "under control" looks like in the US or how it would/could happen. You just have assumptions and opinion fueled by political leaning and probably fed to you by a string of bullshite from dishonest frickers that you have chosen to believe because they're on your side of the political fence.


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I don't know any credible individual who called him a xenophobe for stopping travel from China. One of the few things I think Trump did right. He needed to have shut down all travel, however. The genotyping on the virus that wrecked NYC showed it probably traveled from China to Europe, and then from Europe into the U.S.
More idiocy.

For frick's sake, Biden himself, and most of the Dems in Congress, and virtually every Leftwing media outlet lambasted Trump for shutting down travel and specificially called him xenophobic.

There are videos of this all over the place. You have to be a brain dead fricking schmuck to not have seen one yet or claim you can't find one.

And the fact you say you haven't seen anyone say this tells me you are a monumentally uninformed ignorant clown. And I can only assume you haven't seen it because you get all your news from exactly who I've been saying are dishonest pieces of shite who manipulate fools just like you all day long every day.


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We flattened it then, but NEWS FLASH, it's not flat anymore. Nobody ever said we could go back to life as normal when we reopened after the initial lockdown. Because people refuse to wear masks and socially distance, cases are spiking, and hospitals will be overwhelmed in the near-future.
False. Again, more ignorant drivel I can only assume you get from the Lefty media. You hear "CASES ARE WAY UP!" and I guess you assume hospitalizations and deaths are rising through the roof? Why are you this fricking ignorant and think it's okay to argue?




quote:

Non-sequitur. But virtually all of the anti-police brutality protesters I have seen wear masks. To the extent that ANYBODY doesn't wear a mask? I have a problem with them. But don't equate a random dude with the President, who until recently mocked wearing masks.
Again, this has been argued over and over here. I guess you just missed it.

But here, even CNN at one point did a segment showing that masks are pretty much fricking useless.

LINK


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As I have said before, herd immunity only works if the virus doesn't mutate. The virus has not been around long enough for us to determine that. And even if it doesn't mutate, our body has to retain antibodies for a lengthy period of time to effect herd immunity. For some viruses, our body retains antigens our entire lives, but for other viruses, only a matter of months.

This is retarded.

Viruses mutate all the time. That's why people get new flu vaccines nearly every year. Because new strains pop up sometimes multiple times a year.

50+ million fricking people get the flu every year, but almost everybody is asymptomatic or only mildly sick and recovers quickly. And yet, there's still a couple to few million hospitalizations and 50k-80k deaths, over 20% of which are school-aged children.

And yet we don't shut down the economy and schools or force everyone to wear masks and social distance. But we do with a new virus that has zero herd-immunity yet, few with anti-bodies, but doesn't do shite to kids, almost exclusively attacks vulnerable people with pre-ex respiratory/renal/vascular, and has over a 99% recovery rate?

You're a buffoon if you can't apply this relatively to COVID. If you can't logically process that letting this thing run it's course through the healthy of the country, while actively protecting the vulnerable is the solution, then you're either a moron or being willfully obtuse.


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I want a leader who delivers results, and who doesn't downplay, deflect, or pass the buck onto someone else.
This sounds like some bullshite Lefty platitude.

Zero context, zero real solutions, no actual explanation of what is really being done wrong compared to what is irrefutably the proper method.

And we're never going to be able to agree on what is wrong vs right even if you did, because you're an ignorant frick dumbed down with bad information and false narratives designed to shape your beliefs and opinions. Which you gladly accept because they make you feel good and give you ammunition to shite on people like Trump and me, which also makes you feel good because you're a partisan hack with a political agenda.
Posted by BeefDawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
4747 posts
Posted on 8/3/20 at 7:59 pm to
By the way, here's Georgia:

Posted by Whiznot
Albany, GA
Member since Oct 2013
7024 posts
Posted on 8/3/20 at 10:43 pm to
I see a woman reclining in bed and getting up or down. Is her name Georgia?
Posted by dcbl
Good guys wear white hats.
Member since Sep 2013
29792 posts
Posted on 8/4/20 at 7:38 am to
quote:

I've got $100 that you've never touched a tit and jerk off to pics of Hillary.



risky bet, he may have been breast fed...
Posted by chillmonster
Atlanta, GA
Member since Dec 2018
5077 posts
Posted on 8/4/20 at 10:07 am to
It's a new disease, so a lot is still unknown. However, there is evidence of possible long-term effects following recovery.

Why are folks attacking a guy for saying something that is likely true?

"This disease could have lasting effects."

"Commie Scum!!"

Sound like a fricking moron.
Posted by BossBailey345
Member since Nov 2019
2282 posts
Posted on 8/4/20 at 10:28 am to
I always liked the Georgia song by Ray Charles!! Georgiaaaa....so much anger in this thread
This post was edited on 8/4/20 at 10:30 am
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