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Posted on 4/7/20 at 7:52 pm to Whiznot
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You said that the coronavirus was no worse than the flu.
I stand by that until 79,001 Americans die.
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Even Trump now admits that it is much worse.
No he doesn't. You must have just seen some bullshite on Twitter because you clearly didn't watch what he said in the press conference when asked about it. He said the flu is horrible, kills tens of thousands of people every year, the worst pandemics in modern history have all been flus. So him comparing this to the flu wasn't innaccurate, at this point. He went on to accuse the media of downplaying the seriousness of influenza every year and the death toll it leaves.
This post was edited on 4/7/20 at 7:55 pm
Posted on 4/7/20 at 7:54 pm to deeprig9
I think I was misunderstanding you.
Kemp is a fricking buffoon. Glad we’re on the same page. Carry on.
ETA: Sorry, couldn’t figure out to link directly to your post, but it’s not important.
Kemp is a fricking buffoon. Glad we’re on the same page. Carry on.
ETA: Sorry, couldn’t figure out to link directly to your post, but it’s not important.
This post was edited on 4/7/20 at 8:03 pm
Posted on 4/7/20 at 7:54 pm to Dawgsontop34
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Here’s the deal:
Right: All of the good stuff, trump gets credit for. All the bad stuff, not his fault
Left: All the good stuff, trump should have done regardless. All the bad stuff, F Trump.
That about sums it up. Truth is in the middle. Could have done some things better or quicker but bottom line is they are doing reasonably well with the shitty hand they were dealt.
Posted on 4/7/20 at 9:08 pm to MacDawg
Posted on 4/7/20 at 10:08 pm to deeprig9
Presumptive positive means the diagnosis hasn't been confirmed by the CDC. I don't know whether those deaths are included in the total before the CDC confirms the diagnosis. There may be a lag in reporting.
Posted on 4/8/20 at 5:03 am to deeprig9
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stand by that until 79,001 Americans die.
Apples to oranges, classic little rig brain thought
Posted on 4/8/20 at 5:05 am to GurleyGirl
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Flash forward and President Trump has been under a vicious attack from Democrats
And insane people like you feel personally attacked by this.
Posted on 4/8/20 at 5:12 am to IT_Dawg
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The death toll from this thing is going to be less than the flu 2 years ago
If we didn’t already know, we can now confirm You have a brain the same size as little rig does. Oranges to apples is a terrible comparison.
Trump didn’t put in an order for PPE until mid March. That is something he should have been working to correct in no later than OCTOBER, but certainly in January.
Posted on 4/8/20 at 6:19 am to djsdawg
Posted on 4/8/20 at 6:22 am to djsdawg
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Oranges to apples is a terrible comparison.
I'm not pointing the finger at you. But I roll my eyes at the terrorism/war comparisons. More deaths than 9/11 or Pearl Harbor... youd think health pandemics would be more relevant.
Posted on 4/8/20 at 6:33 am to djsdawg
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Trump didn’t put in an order for PPE until mid March. That is something he should have been working to correct in no later than OCTOBER
Hahaha. Holy frick. You have now stepped off the deepend and into the Mariana Trench. Come out of your bunker and go seek help. TDS can be bad, but you are approaching Pelosi/Schiff levels.
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Oranges to apples is a terrible comparison.
You are right. One is something we know about and still kills 35,000-80,000 people per year and the other is a virus we just discovered and has killed less than 35,000 this year but forced a $6T investment by the government and shutdown our economy and way of life.
Posted on 4/8/20 at 6:44 am to Whiznot
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In Michigan 1,500 doctors and nurses are symptomatic but they don't know if they have covid19 because they don't have test kits.
Are you sure about that? because CBS Detroit channel 62 is reporting differently as of 4 days ago.
Detroit Receives Fast Testing Kits, Can Test For COVID-19 In 15 Minutes, For First Responders
This why it is so hard to know what to believe. Where did you see that they do not have the ability to test?
I mean, they apparently don't have a lot of test kits, but there is a new testing machine that gives results in 15 minutes and can run 50 tests an hour.
Now, the article does not say how many machines Detroit has received, so this could be a drop in the bucket....but if they got a few it would probably do the trick for them.
The articles are a little confusing. Some call them kits and some call them machines. But another article says Michigan bought 5,000 kits and the company (Abbot)t that produces them is ramping up to produces as many as 50,000 a day.
Abbott has said the tests can produce positive results in as little as five minutes and negative results in as little as 13 minutes. The company hopes to ramp up production to the point where it can deliver 50,000 kits per day, per a release.
Detroit will be first US city to use newly approved rapid coronavirus tests, mayor says
Posted on 4/8/20 at 7:05 am to IT_Dawg
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Hahaha. Holy frick. You have now stepped off the deepend and into the Mariana Trench
Of course you failed to address the point. Typical of TWS.
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You are right. One is something we know about and still kills 35,000-80,000 people per year and the other is a virus we just discovered and has killed less than 35,000 this year
The flu would kill far more without a vaccine.
The flu would kill far less with these type of social distancing measures.
The same ideas are applicable to Covid.
Posted on 4/8/20 at 7:07 am to Whiznot
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Staggering Surge Of NYers Dying In Their Homes Suggests City Is Undercounting Coronavirus Fatalities
So the exact opposite of what the conspiracy theorists claim. Little rig brain isn’t gonna like this.
Posted on 4/8/20 at 7:10 am to Lucius Clay
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But when does someone start to ask if maybe the initial doomsday models were extremely overblown or even biased to inspire the fear necessary to get the social distancing going in the first place?
Hey Lucius! You asked an excellent question a few pages back and I cm across a pretty good article from "The Atlantic" about the modelers they use, and why they are generally wrong. It made sense. It doesn't try to place blame or point fingers, it is just plain old good reporting. Rare these days.
Don’t Believe the COVID-19 Models That’s not what they’re for.
Posted on 4/8/20 at 7:13 am to djsdawg
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So the exact opposite of what the conspiracy theorists claim. Little rig brain isn’t gonna like this.
Check the link. It's from an entertainment magazine. I'm not sure i would take it as gospel truth. It's very difficult to know what is truth and what is not...from liberal or conservative outlets.
I am hoping the American people will rise up and demand facts from the all news outlets and quit slanting the news in either direction. It can literally mean the difference in life and death.
I am not saying the article is not correct. it may very well be. but it could also be overstating things a bit, too.
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I just looked up the author of the article (Gwynn Hogan) and although is a definite leaning liberal media member, does not seem to be a whack job. He seems to give a left lean to things, but not overtly so. It gives the article a little more credence for me. Others can decide for themselves.
ETAA
I would also point out that the article states they (New York City)will start begin counting "probable" deaths by Corona as corona deaths. Hardly scientific or conclusive.
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I looked up Gothamist. It is not a magazine....it is actually a Blog.
This post was edited on 4/8/20 at 7:43 am
Posted on 4/8/20 at 7:33 am to Whiznot
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Yeah, it might be bull shite. The source was ABC News.
Beaumont Hospital has 1,500 staff out with symptoms including 500 nurses. Beaumont did not disclose how many of that group tested positive.
I don't mean to play gotcha, but how does the post square with this post?
In Michigan 1,500 doctors and nurses are symptomatic but they don't know if they have covid19 because they don't have test kits.
I have searched and the articles I found clearly state that they have been tested but the hospital has not disclosed how many tested positive. You need to start providing links to your claims because you are not representing the articles accurately...either due to accident or purposefully misrepresenting to make the government look worse that it might be.
There is no doubt, at this time that testing kits are in short supply, but the article I provided in a post above clearly states that that is being taken care of.
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Posted on 4/8/20 at 7:33 am to djsdawg
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Of course you failed to address the point. Typical of TWS.
There is no point to address. You now went full retard and think he should have done something in OCTOBER.
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The flu would kill far more without a vaccine.
well no shite. COVID-19 would kill far more people without medicine, treatment, and water to hydrate too...
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The flu would kill far less with these type of social distancing measures.
So what you are saying, is that something that kills 35,000-80,000 EVERY YEAR, is not worthy of social distancing, but this scary bug is..okay
You are the one sitting in your butt-buddy bunker thinking we should be spending $6T every time a new bug comes out (tens of thousands a year). You are the one wanting a President, that you despise and has caused you TDS, to become an authoritarian ruler...which you and your clan thought he was going to do and ruin the country. Holy shite.
DoesntknowJackShit and Whiznutjob said 1M+ people are going to die in the US....No Trump didn't do enough, but somehow limited to less than a bad flu season for deaths....
Even this weekend, still posting articles claiming hundreds of thousands in US will still die.
We were going to run out of PPEs and vents last month, 3 weeks ago, 2 weeks ago, last week, this week, next week...Hospitals are overrun and 100,000 healthcare workers have died treating this thing. Oh, wait....
This post was edited on 4/8/20 at 7:50 am
Posted on 4/8/20 at 7:55 am to DawgsLife
Don't even try DawgsLife....DoesntknowJackShit and Whiznutjob are sitting in their butt-buddy bunker trying to throw anything and everything against the concrete wall to see what sticks. They have no idea how to think for themselves. They do no research, just regurgitate anything they can find.
They don't know what a OHSUD is and how many happen every single day in the US. They don't realize that people aren't visiting others as often through this, so there will be an increase naturally from OHSUDs (which Ironically could be caused more by depression and loneliness during these times....HRMMMM). They are so far gone, there's no helping them down in the Mariana Trench bunker.
They don't know what a OHSUD is and how many happen every single day in the US. They don't realize that people aren't visiting others as often through this, so there will be an increase naturally from OHSUDs (which Ironically could be caused more by depression and loneliness during these times....HRMMMM). They are so far gone, there's no helping them down in the Mariana Trench bunker.
This post was edited on 4/8/20 at 7:56 am
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