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re: LSU fans have Jemele Hill on their side

Posted on 1/17/20 at 3:03 pm to
Posted by PeeJayScammedGT
Kennesaw, GA
Member since Oct 2019
2148 posts
Posted on 1/17/20 at 3:03 pm to
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Yeah they get nothing. I'm not saying don't pay them but the argument they get "nothing" is down right false.

You're speaking in absolutes

When most intelligent people say they don't get anything, they don't mean it literally, they are talking about in comparison to what they generate

FB & MBB total roughly 100 scholly students, those 100 students gross anywhere from $80million to $200million for their Athl Depts

When you're generating that much money and HCs are making $4 million to $9 million then RELATIVE to what they generate then the Scholarship just isn't enough

The problem that makes the current model quasi-racist, is that the entire burden of generating money is placed on the backs of 2 sports that happen to be majority Black, while everyone else gets to benefit financially without the burden of having to turn a huge profit

Simply force the other Sports to operate at a break-even level and not place that burden on only 2 sports and many folks will stop complaining about the current collegiate model

As long as the model doesn't change, folks are gonna have problems, there's gonna be controversy

If you wanna keep the system the way it is, cap HCs at $750K, cap coordinators at $400K, and cap position coaches at $200K, then tell them if they want more money go to the NFL, after all many folks love to tell the players that if they want money then go to the NFL

You want a fair system, simply tell coaches the same thing you tell the players
Posted by ColoradoAg
Colorado
Member since Sep 2011
22559 posts
Posted on 1/17/20 at 3:04 pm to
She's just a dumb bitch ... nothing to see here
Posted by back9Tiger
Mandeville, LA.
Member since Nov 2005
14218 posts
Posted on 1/17/20 at 3:06 pm to
frick that broad.... I never want her on my side.
Posted by 1609tiger
Member since Feb 2011
3263 posts
Posted on 1/17/20 at 3:12 pm to
is she still lurking around and why even make a post about her ?
Posted by mtntiger
Asheville, NC
Member since Oct 2003
26712 posts
Posted on 1/17/20 at 3:24 pm to
She's an idiot.

No one forced these kids to sign their scholarships.
Posted by Spit
Member since Dec 2019
187 posts
Posted on 1/17/20 at 3:38 pm to
Yikes! She HATES white people.
Posted by Doctor Strangelove
Member since Feb 2018
2981 posts
Posted on 1/17/20 at 3:51 pm to
How endowed was he?
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
27321 posts
Posted on 1/17/20 at 4:02 pm to
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Simply force the other Sports to operate at a break-even level and not place that burden on only 2 sports and many folks will stop complaining about the current collegiate model


This cannot be done without violating title IX and any AD that tried it would immediately be dragged into court.
This post was edited on 1/17/20 at 4:32 pm
Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
63547 posts
Posted on 1/17/20 at 4:04 pm to
I think I drunkenly called her a retard in response to that one.
Posted by PeeJayScammedGT
Kennesaw, GA
Member since Oct 2019
2148 posts
Posted on 1/17/20 at 5:08 pm to
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This cannot be done without violating title IX and any AD that tried it would immediately be dragged into court

C'mon dude

Asking Sports to sell more tickets, generate more Revenues, get higher TV ratings and generate their own money is not a violation of anything

In the USA no one has a birthright to lose massive amounts of money forever, in perpetuity with no expectation to ever break even or turn a profit

Folks that throw up the T9 excuse might not fully understand how T9 really works

TBH T9 has gone too far in the way it is implemented and as T9 is currently administered T9 discriminates against other Sports and maybe other students on campus

Example:

An academic major loses popularity and the University stops offering that major or that minor because it is no longer profitable, but if that same school is in the SEC or ACC they will keep certain women's sports around even if it's not profitable, at some point a student is gonna sue on the grounds that T9 keeps money losing Sports around but not money losing Academic Programs

Just because the cases haven't gone to court doesn't mean that T9 is doing things in a fair & legal way
Posted by DawgCountry
Great State of GA
Member since Sep 2012
30618 posts
Posted on 1/17/20 at 5:10 pm to
Bless your heart
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
27321 posts
Posted on 1/17/20 at 9:50 pm to
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C'mon dude

Asking Sports to sell more tickets, generate more Revenues, get higher TV ratings and generate their own money is not a violation of anything



Who said any of these things? Just telling
WTF is going on with P5 schooolz
Posted by PeeJayScammedGT
Kennesaw, GA
Member since Oct 2019
2148 posts
Posted on 1/18/20 at 1:15 am to
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What was her peak salary at ESPN compared to the camera men, technicians, statisticians, etc. that made her job easier and capable of being done?

Bad example

None of Hill's co workers work in an artificially capped market like CFB players do

Also each employee that is Ms Hill's co worker is allowed to negotiate a fair wage package, there is no negotiation in the NCAA for the players, just for the Coaches
Posted by Wild Thang
YAW YAW Fooball Nation
Member since Jun 2009
44181 posts
Posted on 1/18/20 at 1:24 am to
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Ok Boomer.


People who say this are fricking idiots. I’m gen x btw
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
27321 posts
Posted on 1/18/20 at 3:22 am to
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Asking Sports to sell more tickets, generate more Revenues, get higher TV ratings and generate their own money is not a violation of anything


Who said that?

Not the issue idiot.Women's softball can promote and beg all they want for tickets sales and ratings...THEY'LL NEVER BE PROFITABLE, God Almighty,it's not difficult to figure out


quote:

In the USA no one has a birthright to lose massive amounts of money forever, in perpetuity with no expectation to ever break even or turn a profit





WTF are you talking about? The only thing govt does is lose money and women's athletics has been losing money for decades.

quote:

Folks that throw up the T9 excuse might not fully understand how T9 really works



So now you're gonna try to explain Title IX to me? LMFAO!I know exactly how it works.

quote:

Title IX states that, “No person in the United States shall, on the basis of sex, be excluded from participation in, be denied the benefits of, or be subjected to discrimination under any educational program or activity receiving Federal financial assistance.”


Someone who can't comprehend how endowed athletic scholarships work is trying to explain Title IX to me?
Posted by themicah85
DALLAS TX
Member since Jul 2015
3501 posts
Posted on 1/18/20 at 6:01 am to
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TBI’s, soft tissue injuries, CTE, etc... You have to be an extremely naive person to not understand the landscape of major collegiate athletics. 

The vast majority of these athletes come from areas of systemic poverty that would already leave them more than qualified for grants and FA... 

Everyone suggests “free education.” What the hell does that even mean? If a student is offered an academic scholarship, does that student then face the same level of physical and mental demand that D-1 football players face? 



You do realize that the NFL is the one causing them to sit out for 3 years before they go pro right? The NCAA isn't the one that controls that. You also realize that you could just not go to college? If you feel that a group of people are taking advantage of you and riding on your coat tails to make money while providing you nothing to get to the next level, why would you voluntarily participate in that? I mean youre so good, after high school just work out at the local park, send film of it to the NFL and work a normal job and get paid like you feel you deserve. I mean those coaches and fancy schmancy schools arent doing anything but using you so you should be totally fine.
Posted by GBJs
Jacksonville, FL
Member since Dec 2012
3902 posts
Posted on 1/18/20 at 6:07 am to
Who the frick is she and why does she think anyone gives a damn?
Posted by FreddieMac
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2010
21184 posts
Posted on 1/18/20 at 7:13 am to
That cop was acting like he was in the middle of a bunch of drug dealers. He was acting way to aggressive with Lewis for a cigar. I wonder why?
Posted by GeauxTrain
Member since Sep 2019
1691 posts
Posted on 1/18/20 at 9:20 am to
Everybody on the field is getting paid except the players. Not just the coaches but the referees, the trainers, the kid holding the cable for the coaches headset, the kid in the tiger suit, even the marching band gets a stipend. Every person who steps on that field except the players putting themselves at risk to produce the billion-dollar product being sold. Something is wrong there.
This post was edited on 1/18/20 at 9:23 am
Posted by Long Dawg
Acworth, GA
Member since Dec 2017
2049 posts
Posted on 1/18/20 at 9:37 am to
If Jemele Hill is on the your side, you know you are on the wrong side
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