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re: LSU fans have Jemele Hill on their side

Posted on 1/18/20 at 9:41 am to
Posted by GoldenAge
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2014
1522 posts
Posted on 1/18/20 at 9:41 am to
Can we really claim free education is what they get when a significant portion of male college athletes never finish school while on scholarship? Not saying it’s the schools fault if a student leaves early, but it doesn’t seem equal. In 3 years a kid could bring in millions of dollars to school & conference and only receive food housing and medical.
Posted by Sebastian
Member since Jun 2015
3756 posts
Posted on 1/18/20 at 10:06 am to
She’s a female version of Kaepernick.
Posted by GeauxTrain
Member since Sep 2019
1691 posts
Posted on 1/18/20 at 10:11 am to
No other scholarship prohibits the recipient from earning money so why is the free tuition even mentioned?
Posted by PeeJayScammedGT
Kennesaw, GA
Member since Oct 2019
2148 posts
Posted on 1/18/20 at 10:32 am to
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Everybody on the field is getting paid except the players. Not just the coaches but the referees, the trainers, the kid holding the cable for the coaches headset, the kid in the tiger suit, even the marching band gets a stipend. Every person who steps on that field except the players putting themselves at risk to produce the billion-dollar product being sold. Something is wrong there

Outstanding insight

Lots of idiots don't understand or they play stupid or they have some deep rooted fantasy that seeing majority Black Athletes entertain them and not get paid somehow adds to their enjoyment or improves their life in some sort of way

It's as if they get some sort of orgasmic response from seeing a sport with majority blacks be underpaid and treated unfairly

It's almost as if they fantasize about the days slavery & sharecropping and long for it

I mean seriously, why does anyone care about another man's MONEY, if it's not coming out of their pockets

And before anyone goes there Athl Depts have been raising ticket prices and associated fees & contributions without the players getting paid, so don't claim Ticket prices are going up because they have already gone up without the players getting anything
Posted by GeauxTrain
Member since Sep 2019
1691 posts
Posted on 1/18/20 at 10:39 am to
Race doesn't have anything to do with it, it's a mixture of greed and not knowing how to do it fairly. Most NCAA programs don't have the money to compete so if you open the floodgates then there'll end up being 10 teams that the other 100+ have no chance of ever beating. That would be the end of college football. I don't have an answer for that. I do think a good start would be to allow the players to make money off their likenesses and get a cut of any merchandise being sold with their name on it. Maybe a small student-worker type paycheck for everyone on a team that reflects the hours practicing so they can at least go on a date or whatever.
This post was edited on 1/18/20 at 10:42 am
Posted by theenemy
Member since Oct 2006
13078 posts
Posted on 1/18/20 at 10:55 am to
Everyday I thank god I wasnt subjected to the hard times of a college athlete.

So lucky to have gotten to work 2 part times jobs for minimum wage throughout college and a big atudent loan debt upon graduating.
Posted by theenemy
Member since Oct 2006
13078 posts
Posted on 1/18/20 at 11:04 am to
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Maybe a small student-worker type paycheck for everyone on a team that reflects the hours practicing so they can at least go on a date or whatever.


The do....its called a stipend.

LINK

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The kids got paid, cash money, simply for being scholarship student-athletes.
A new era in college sports arrived for the 2015-16 school year in the form of full “cost of attendance,” a stipend paid over and above the benefits of a scholarship. The amount of the stipend varies by school, ranging from about $2,000 to $5,000 extra going to each full-scholarship athlete.
The cash flow was born of good intentions and guilt. Athletic departments padded budgets mostly through hefty media rights contracts but without a means to funnel the largess to athletes.



Posted by MrLahey
The Salty Ham
Member since Dec 2013
772 posts
Posted on 1/18/20 at 11:06 am to
The feds? really? I really dislike this lady.

Pandering try hard
Posted by PeeJayScammedGT
Kennesaw, GA
Member since Oct 2019
2148 posts
Posted on 1/18/20 at 11:08 am to
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Race doesn't have anything to do with it, it's a mixture of greed and not knowing how to do it fairly. Most NCAA programs don't have the money to compete so if you open the floodgates then there'll end up being 10 teams that the other 100+ have no chance of ever beating. That would be the end of college football. I don't have an answer for that. I do think a good start would be to allow the players to make money off their likenesses and get a cut of any merchandise being sold with their name on it. Maybe a small student-worker type paycheck for everyone on a team that reflects the hours practicing so they can at least go on a date or whatever

The Top75 CFB Programs have the money

The Top100 MBB Programs have the money

The issue does have racial undertones

In those groups listed above if they did pay the Athletes the folks getting paid would be majority Black

At the other 900 lower level NCAA Schools they lose money or barely break even and those Athletes are majority white

In this America that we live in a lot of folks would be beyond pissed off to see the schools with majority Black Athletes pay their players money while in college while the lower 900 NCAA schools with majority white Athletes get no money

Race & racial undertones is why folks are so passionate about this issue

Think, do people get this passionate about keeping people in other industries as underpaid as possible, so why big time College Sports?
Posted by TigerBlitz03
New Iberia
Member since Nov 2008
831 posts
Posted on 1/18/20 at 11:23 am to
She's not wrong. And long thought out paragraphs wont sway such opposite opinions. Horse blinders on to narrative bullshite. NCAA is long overdue to this. Not asking for millions for students. Get a grip.
Posted by Roll on Tigers
Across the Border
Member since Jul 2013
3994 posts
Posted on 1/18/20 at 11:39 am to
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Azzholes like you have no right to talk about these players in the same breath as those that "want everything handed to them" Fvck you azzhole, pay the players a larger stipend AND give them their NIL rights If the individual has no value and only the whole has all the value, then cap the HC's pay, but you haven't said a damn thing about that have you? You only generate outrage when the players want a more fair piece of what they generate Let's see: Coaches - majority white, highly paid & uncapped You: quieter than a Rat pissing on cotton Players - majority Black, lowly paid & artificially capped You: highly opinionated and loud as hell Diagnosis: you're a hypocritical piece of shyt playa hater, and very likely a bigot and a racist

Holy frick. Get it together man. It’s not that serious.
Posted by OleManDixon
Lexington
Member since Jan 2018
9234 posts
Posted on 1/18/20 at 11:47 am to
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Anyone who calls what players get in an education “free” doesn’t understand value. They are not getting a “free” education. They are earning their education by playing football. That’s at the base level. They play football they get an education.


Correct. So many here say players shouldn’t be paid and follow it up by explaining the different ways they are already paid. Pick a lane, Martha. This is really just a discussion about how much the players’ work is worth. Considering how many conservatives participate on this board it’s bizarre so many would be against someone lobbying for what literally is the American way.
Posted by DeepBlueSea
Member since Jan 2018
773 posts
Posted on 1/18/20 at 11:49 am to
She’s missing the point — maybe on purpose, but who knows. Was anybody really upset that OBJ handed out a few hundred bucks to a few hyped college kids after they won a national championship game? Or were they upset that he did it on camera in flagrant violation of current NCAA standards, which could have implications far beyond the cost and scope of those transactions?

It’s not exactly a hot take to argue that the rules are outdated and draconian, but let’s not mischaracterize one person’s drunken impulses as some sort of dignified and effective form of social protest against them. This incident could turn out to be a catalyst for positive change overall, but that would be more of a happy accident than anything else. It could just as easily cause a lot of trouble for a lot of people who weren’t guilty of anything other than trusting OBJ not to frick things up for them.
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
22574 posts
Posted on 1/18/20 at 11:56 am to
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Everybody on the field is getting paid except the players. Not just the coaches but the referees, the trainers, the kid holding the cable for the coaches headset, the kid in the tiger suit, even the marching band gets a stipend. Every person who steps on that field except the players putting themselves at risk to produce the billion-dollar product being sold. Something is wrong there.


False.

The salaries of those people you mention are all towards supporting the kids who you claim get nothing. It is all literally for their benefit.

Alabama spends around $125,000 per football player per year, and that is NOT counting the staff and other salaries.

This post was edited on 1/18/20 at 11:58 am
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