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Andy Staples talking about doing away with divisions, again

Posted on 1/16/20 at 1:58 pm
Posted by twk
Wichita Falls, Texas
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 1/16/20 at 1:58 pm
In his mailbag column in the Athletic:

quote:

The SEC office has been getting pushed by several schools in the past year to consider adopting a pod system that would set three fixed rivals for each school and then use a rotating schedule for the rest. The two best teams would play in the conference title game, and every team would play every other team at least twice every four years. A player who spent four seasons at a school would play in every stadium in the conference.

When I wrote about this subject in October, I asked around to get a sense of who would support such a plan and who would oppose it. Essentially, the schools in the West division and Florida would be in support.


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Posted by Dr RC
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Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 1/16/20 at 2:03 pm to
So Vandy, Kentucky, Mizzou, Tennessee, and UGA are scared that a more rational schedule where you actually get to see all your conference members will be too difficult ehh?
Posted by bulletprooftiger
Member since Aug 2006
2051 posts
Posted on 1/16/20 at 2:11 pm to
This shows you what UGA's athletic department thinks of Auburn. UF knows it is a bitch to have to play LSU every year. UGA likes the regular W.
Posted by TH03
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Posted on 1/16/20 at 2:12 pm to
Shocker, the only championship level team in the east who plays a real west team is the only one in support.
Posted by LSUgrad88
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 1/16/20 at 2:14 pm to
I mean it sounds great; but I reserve judgment until I see which 3 permanents we draw!!
Posted by lostinbr
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2017
9543 posts
Posted on 1/16/20 at 2:17 pm to
quote:

I mean it sounds great; but I reserve judgment until I see which 3 permanents we draw!!

Arky, Ole Miss, and State. Let’s ride.
Posted by apiratelifeforme
Jupiter
Member since Oct 2017
147 posts
Posted on 1/16/20 at 2:18 pm to
quote:

So Vandy, Kentucky, Mizzou, Tennessee, and UGA are scared that a more rational schedule where you actually get to see all your conference members will be too difficult ehh?


Put the bong down and remember we are the only team in the East who plays Bama every year. Schedule being too difficult? Are you kidding! The west gets to play MSU, Miss, Arkansas, TAM each year, while the east gets to feast on Vandy. Missou and KY are not where near as bad as those 4 in the west.
This post was edited on 1/16/20 at 2:18 pm
Posted by scrooster
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Member since Jul 2012
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Posted on 1/16/20 at 2:19 pm to
When are they just going to do it and get it over with?
Posted by El Magnifico
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Posted on 1/16/20 at 2:19 pm to
Those opposed: the bottom feeding dregs such as Kentucky, Vandy, Tenn, Mississippi State etc.
Posted by apiratelifeforme
Jupiter
Member since Oct 2017
147 posts
Posted on 1/16/20 at 2:20 pm to
quote:

The SEC office has been getting pushed by several schools in the past year to consider adopting a pod system that would set three fixed rivals for each school and then use a rotating schedule for the rest. The two best teams would play in the conference title game, and every team would play every other team at least twice every four years. A player who spent four seasons at a school would play in every stadium in the conference.

When I wrote about this subject in October, I asked around to get a sense of who would support such a plan and who would oppose it. Essentially, the schools in the West division and Florida would be in support.



This guy has a I.D. 10 T problem. If anything the SEC should add 2 more teams and make 4 divisions.
Posted by twk
Wichita Falls, Texas
Member since Jul 2011
2155 posts
Posted on 1/16/20 at 2:21 pm to
quote:

I mean it sounds great; but I reserve judgment until I see which 3 permanents we draw!!


As would everybody. I took a stab at this, starting with the 3 permanent rivals in basketball (which basically uses this scheme) and here's what I came up with:

Bama: Auburn, State, UT
Arkansas: Mizzou, A&M, LSU
Auburn: Bama UF, UGA
Florida: Auburn, UGA, USC
UGA: USC, UF, Auburn
Kentucky: Mizzou, UT, MSU
LSU: A&M, Ole Miss, Arkansas
Ole Miss: State, LSU, Vandy
Miss. State: Ole Miss, Bama, UK
Missouri: Arkansas, A&M, UK
South Carolina: UGA, UF, Vandy
Tenn: Vandy, UK, Bama
A&M: LSU, Arkansas, Mizzou
Vandy: UT, Ole Miss, USC

I know, it's not perfectly balanced, and Auburn's is flat out ridiculous, but they've been asking to play their historic rivals, so there it is. If you do that, then use computers to balance out the rotating portion of the schedule, you should be able to minimize the remote chance of more than 2 teams going undefeated.
Posted by weadjust
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 1/16/20 at 2:21 pm to
quote:

while th eeast gets to feast on Vandy. Missou and KY are not where near as bad as those 4 in the west.


You left out TN & SC on your list of easy East teams
Posted by lostinbr
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2017
9543 posts
Posted on 1/16/20 at 2:23 pm to
quote:

The west gets to play MSU, Miss, Arkansas, TAM each year, while the east gets to feast on Vandy. Missou and KY are not where near as bad as those 4 in the west.

The issue is less the divisions and more the permanent cross-division rivalries. The west is probably the stronger division at the top, while the east is stronger in the middle.
Posted by apiratelifeforme
Jupiter
Member since Oct 2017
147 posts
Posted on 1/16/20 at 2:27 pm to
quote:


The issue is less the divisions and more the permanent cross-division rivalries. The west is probably the stronger division at the top, while the east is stronger in the middle.


This year and the past few years, but the east had their time where they were the stronger division and that time will come again. The SEC use to be decided when UT and UF played.
Posted by apiratelifeforme
Jupiter
Member since Oct 2017
147 posts
Posted on 1/16/20 at 2:29 pm to
SC 7 10 0 0 3 20
UGA 3 7 0 7 0 17

but USC is such an easy game!! I am not sure how they ever won a game they are so bad.
Posted by lostinbr
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2017
9543 posts
Posted on 1/16/20 at 2:30 pm to
quote:

This year and the past few years, but the east had their time where they were the stronger division and that time will come again. The SEC use to be decided when UT and UF played.

Right.. that’s why I said:
quote:

The issue is less the divisions and more the permanent cross-division rivalries.
Posted by frankthetank
Member since Oct 2007
2311 posts
Posted on 1/16/20 at 2:30 pm to















LINKGood article about how this can be done in every conference.
This post was edited on 1/16/20 at 2:39 pm
Posted by apiratelifeforme
Jupiter
Member since Oct 2017
147 posts
Posted on 1/16/20 at 2:46 pm to
quote:

more the permanent cross-division rivalries.


To hell with that. I would rather have zero permanent rivalries. I am freaking tired of being the only East team to play Bama each year while Kentucky gets MSU each year. How is that fair competitively. For UT to go undefeated, they have to beat UF, UGA, Bama and then the SEC west champ.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 1/16/20 at 2:49 pm to
Should have been done years ago
Posted by Gatorbait2008
Member since Aug 2015
22953 posts
Posted on 1/16/20 at 3:09 pm to
That would be good. We could stick to our fiercest conference rivals this way in Vandy, Ole Miss, and Arkansas.
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