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re: Greatest Of All Time?

Posted on 11/28/18 at 7:57 pm to
Posted by John Milner
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Posted on 11/28/18 at 7:57 pm to
with the training, diet, and just the fact that kids today are bigger and faster than ever, it isn't really fair to compare a team even 20 years ago to a team now.
That 01 Miami team, though, I think would still be a national title contender yearly.
Posted by Jrocstar79
Member since Nov 2018
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Posted on 11/28/18 at 8:03 pm to
I could see that js that them having Coker as HC was a big time weakness. And I reiterate that Tom Osborne was 12-13 in bowls, not very good. Imo because when u have a month to prepare for the option it's alot easier.
Posted by John Milner
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 11/28/18 at 8:06 pm to
you do have a point about Coker but I think it was his first year and there were pretty much all the same assistants. It was basically still a Butch Davis team.
Posted by NoMansLand
Member since Jun 2017
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Posted on 11/28/18 at 8:07 pm to
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Let's not forget Bama got robbed in 45 and 66.


Yes, please do claim the 1945 championship over Army who only defeated Germany & Japan. Would put you on par with Okie State.
Posted by John Milner
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 11/28/18 at 8:13 pm to
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Yes, please do claim the 1945 championship over Army who only defeated Germany & Japan


oh give me a break.

In any event, though I am glad UA teams were consistent contenders in the 20s, 30s, and 40s, I don't really think any of the titles back then were as valid as after integration across the nation. Too many great players had to play only for the black teams. Who's to say that some of the Grambling, Tennessee State, Florida A&M and other great black teams couldn't have beaten the Alabamas, Notre Dames, and Ohio States of the college football playing world.
This post was edited on 11/28/18 at 8:18 pm
Posted by TizzyT4theUofA
This side of eternity
Member since Jun 2016
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Posted on 11/28/18 at 8:20 pm to
Yes, please do claim the 1945 championship over Army who only defeated Germany & Japan. Would put you on par with Okie State.

They didn’t beat them without the jar heads, the Navy, and the other Allies.

I guess that’s the same as modern day Alabama having the help of the REC, refs on the payroll, SEC office in Birmingham, and Saban’s best friend being the head of the NCAA.
Posted by geauxbrown
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
19760 posts
Posted on 11/28/18 at 8:22 pm to
While certainly a case could be made, I personally don't feel their competition gives them the right to be considered the greatest of all time. And yes, that includes LSU........

What's their signature win to date?
Posted by John Milner
Member since Jan 2015
6547 posts
Posted on 11/28/18 at 8:30 pm to
we're getting ahead of ourselves, in any event. Let's wait till after the SEC title game and then maybe the playoffs.
Posted by Jrocstar79
Member since Nov 2018
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Posted on 11/28/18 at 9:48 pm to
Agreed bro. I mean Bama still has alot to prove this season as of yet. But as far as considering legit NCs I myself pretty much just count since the AP was instituted in 1936. But of course Bama did win 4 Rose Bowl championships which back then was like the defacto NCG.
Posted by AlaCowboy
North Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 11/28/18 at 10:01 pm to
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It's a real good bet that Alabama didn't spend a hell of a lot of time preparing for The Citadel, with Auburn the next week and UGA in 2 weeks.


Georgia played a REAL team that ran the triple option last week. Georgia was up 38-7 at halftime and played the cheerleaders and water boys all 2nd half. How did Bammer handle The Citadel? A FCS team? Really?
Posted by navynuke
Member since Jun 2016
4975 posts
Posted on 11/28/18 at 10:43 pm to
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And their defense was seriously undersized Bama's running game would have no problems themselves


If you think Alabama could line up and simply take it to Grant Wistrom, Jared Tomich, Jason Peter, Christian Peter, Mike Rucker, Doug Colman, Jon Hesse, and Jay Forman, you are grossly incorrect.

This post was edited on 11/28/18 at 10:45 pm
Posted by Jrocstar79
Member since Nov 2018
48 posts
Posted on 11/28/18 at 11:06 pm to
After Tua stretches the field vertical for a couple quick scores it wouldn't be that tough of sledding bro. We got an elite 4 deep backfield. It would be the best running attack Nebraska 95 had ever seen by a wide margin.
Posted by Jrocstar79
Member since Nov 2018
48 posts
Posted on 11/28/18 at 11:09 pm to
Woah bro, are u a Georgia fan? Personally like I stated earlier Bama defenders were a little hesitant with all the chop blocking going on in a meaningless game, didn't wanna get there careers ruined. Quinnen Williams and Deionte Thompson took low blocks to the knee area.

But since we're comparing similar style of play, how about common opponents? We beat LSU 29-0 in DV, how did Georgia do? Lol
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
65483 posts
Posted on 11/28/18 at 11:27 pm to
The 2001 Miami team is such an overrated team if we’re talking GOAT team.Yes they were really really good but compared to 95 Nebraska and Alabama this year if they finish it out...I just don’t buy it. Miami was VERY fortunate to beat Va Tech and eeked our an 18-7 win against BC. Alabama hasn’t played anyone closer than 3 TDs all year in the SEC, not the Big East like Miami. Nebraska 95 played one game closer than 24 points, a 14 point win against Ryan Leaf led Washington State. The average score of their games was 53-14. They won the national title game 63-24. I just don’t think when comparing all-time teams that Miami is in the same class as 95 Nebraska or this year’s Alabama team. If I’m being honest I’ve never seen a team dominate teams seemingly effortlessly week after week like Alabama has this year. And the scary thing is they’ll probably be better next year.
This post was edited on 11/28/18 at 11:31 pm
Posted by viceman
Huntsville, AL
Member since Aug 2016
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Posted on 11/28/18 at 11:48 pm to
Here is the GOAT football team

quote:

The Sewanee Tigers were pioneers in American intercollegiate athletics and possessed the Deep South's preeminent football program in the 1890s. Ellwood Wilson is considered the "founder of Sewanee football."[2] Their 1899 football team had perhaps the best season in college football history, winning all 12 of their games, 11 by shutout, and outscoring their opponents 322-10. Five of those wins, all shutouts, came in a six-day period while on a 2,500-mile (4,000 km) trip by train. Ten of their twelve opponents, including all five of their road trip victims, remain major college football powers to this day.[3] In 2012, the College Football Hall of Fame held a vote of the greatest historic teams of all time, where the 1899 Iron Men beat the 1961 Alabama Crimson Tide as the greatest team of all time
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5 road games in a six day period all shutouts and iron man football too, 12 games and 10 total points scored on them
This post was edited on 11/28/18 at 11:52 pm
Posted by Jrocstar79
Member since Nov 2018
48 posts
Posted on 11/29/18 at 12:42 am to
Damn 5 road games in 6 days? How long was the season back then bro? That's crazy....
Posted by Jrocstar79
Member since Nov 2018
48 posts
Posted on 11/29/18 at 12:45 am to
Agreed bro. Think about this: do u think that Miami 01 team could beat LSU 2 yrs later? I'd have my doubts tbh. They were uber talented but really finesse style imo. Pretty boy ball. I mean Ohio St was beating everybody like 13-6 all year in 02 and handled Miami in the NCG.

Knowing u are a LSU fan I would say this as well, LSU in 2011 I would take all day over that team. But who would u say was y'all best ever?
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
65483 posts
Posted on 11/29/18 at 12:53 am to
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Damn 5 road games in 6 days? How long was the season back then bro? That's crazy....


They also traveled by train, which is the most absurd part to me. These games were also against Texas, A&M, Tulane, LSU, and Ole Miss. During that 5 game run they went undefeated and unscored upon. They didn't allow any points the entire season until their 11th game (Auburn). It was also the only game anyone scored on them.
This post was edited on 11/29/18 at 12:56 am
Posted by cramps
Member since Oct 2012
2138 posts
Posted on 11/29/18 at 1:18 am to
'95 Huskers are the most dominant CFB team of my lifetime, and the Blackshirts would have matched up fine with this Bama offense. They destroyed Florida and their great offense that year, and the option offense they ran during those years was nothing short of amazing. Feel free to watch Tommie Frazier and Scott Frost shred teams during their dynasty if you haven't already. This Bama team can make its case in its next few games, but until then, they aren't quite there yet.
This post was edited on 11/29/18 at 1:19 am
Posted by Rescue22
South Carolina
Member since Jul 2015
4118 posts
Posted on 11/29/18 at 1:48 am to
I've always wondered if Saban could replicate these results elsewhere.

Alabama truly has been a monster for many, many years.
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