Anyone here think improving our relations with Russia is a bad idea?

No. People were first worried about Trump causing a war, and now they are bitching about him trying to talk peace. I’m convinced he can cure breast cancer and people will be pissed he didn’t cure pancreatic.

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they are bitching about him trying to talk peace

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Yes. That is what’s happening

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him trying to talk peace

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I've seen no evidence of him trying to talk peace with Putin. He can't even admit that Putin and his cronies launched a cyber attack against our country.

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Anyone here think improving our relations with Russia is a bad idea?

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I guess that depends on how we're improving them. Working together as allies? Yes, that is a horrible idea, especially when it is at the expense of our long-term allies, like NATO. Do we really want to be chummy with a guy that has reporters murdered? Would you have thought it to be a good idea to improve our relations with Osama Bin Laden following 9/11? Of course not. Putin isn't much different than Bin Laden. The only real difference is he carries out his atrocities with a little more sophistication.

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Do we really want to be chummy with a guy that has reporters murdered?

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Our country almost elected a president that has reporters murdered.

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Yet they ignore the fact that based on ACTIONS, Trump has been way harsher on Russia than his predecessor. 

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What in the literal frick are you talking about?!

I swear I wonder what planet trump supporters live on sometimes.

Guess the poliboard has shut down?

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He has imposed sanctions twice on Russia, which Obama wouldn't do.

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Patently false. Obama sanctioned Russia in response to their invasion of Crimea. It has crippled their economy and they've been in a deep recession since. Trump did re-authorize those sanctions while easing some of the impact on American companies.

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He's targeted strikes on Syria.

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He also gave the Russians a head's up on some of the strikes to give them time to clear out.

He's been about the same on Russia as Obama, while also refusing to acknowledge Russia's involvement in the election meddling. The appearance that members of his campaign and transition team were conspiring(yet unproven) adds a cloud of suspicion.

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Sorry to interrupt your Maddow viewing



I can honestly say I've never watched her show, I've seen a few clips, but not a viewer.

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Now disagreeing with someone is fine, but going out of your way to destroy their world view is a bit much. Every good conservative knows that anyone who didn't vote for Trump is a pinko commie who watches Rachel Maddow's show on a constant loop. And probably part of the Clinton Conspiracy to murder everyone who opposes them... other then the nobodies online who they could whack with no effort at all but don't for some reason.

Saying that you don't watch Maddow is likely to cause major cognitive dissonance and possibly lead a complete mental breakdown. He's probably chanting they all have low-T to himself already in attempt to get over the damage to his beliefs.

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I can honestly say I've never watched her show, I've seen a few clips, but not a viewer.

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Same here. Never watched her show. The last time I recall tuning in to watch was almost 2 years ago when she was talking about trumps tax return which turned out to be only 2 pages of it or something.

Now, I'm sure she is infinitely more accurate and honest than any fox news host and probably lives in the real world, but I've just never paid much attention to her.

Ftr, I'm a fan of Bill Maher and John Oliver. Also liberals but hilarious and people who make a lot of good points, are informative and accurate, do deep dives into issues, etc.