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re: Anyone here think improving our relations with Russia is a bad idea?

Posted on 7/18/18 at 4:16 pm to
Posted by rockiee
Sugar Land, TX
Member since Jan 2015
28540 posts
Posted on 7/18/18 at 4:16 pm to
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1. The author of that article is a Republican Strategist. The article is pure fox news type propaganda.



I believe she also writes for Fox News
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
30596 posts
Posted on 7/18/18 at 4:21 pm to
The article quoted easily verifiable facts. Who wrote them has NOTHING to do with it if they're facts. Congress has never forced ANYTHING down this president's "throat". That's Congress' problem..they can't "force" shite!...I guess he was made to bomb Syria, too....man, PLEASE!
Posted by Tiger n Miami AU83
Miami
Member since Oct 2007
45656 posts
Posted on 7/18/18 at 4:23 pm to
Wrong dumbass. There was zero context. Every bit of that involved trump whining and bitching like the pussy he is. Congress got those things done in spite of the incompetent pussy.

You are dumb as shite linking that arricle and ignoring everything else to try and fool people.
Posted by Tiger n Miami AU83
Miami
Member since Oct 2007
45656 posts
Posted on 7/18/18 at 4:26 pm to
Oh yeah, just to emphasis again how damn stupid you are, the sanctions were voted on unanimously by congress. I see that you have no clue how our government functions (or are a liar, or maybe both), but that is called veto proof dipshit. So yeah, Congress can pass a law and make a president do something.
Posted by Tiger n Miami AU83
Miami
Member since Oct 2007
45656 posts
Posted on 7/18/18 at 4:28 pm to
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I believe she also writes for Fox News


Yeah, I just googled her name and her bio everywhere including LinkedIn says Republican strategist.

No one is stupid enough to believe the headline of that article.

Except crisp and he has already shown how stupid he is.
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
30596 posts
Posted on 7/18/18 at 4:28 pm to
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I believe she also writes for Fox News

The article was about facts. Regardless of who writes/says it....a fact is a fact.. If you're skeptical...look the events up yourself!
Posted by Tiger n Miami AU83
Miami
Member since Oct 2007
45656 posts
Posted on 7/18/18 at 4:35 pm to
I dont have to look anything up.

I pay fricking attention and remember each of those events.

I dont really dislike you crisp, but I'm sick of bullshite like you posted. Everyone that pays attention knows trump did not want to implement the Russian sanctions and the only reason he did not veto them was because the veto would have been overridden immediately.

You are the one who needs to learn something about what is going on. Or maybe you know and are just being a disingenuous bitch. IDk.
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
30596 posts
Posted on 7/18/18 at 4:40 pm to
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Oh yeah, just to emphasis again how damn stupid you are, the sanctions were voted on unanimously by congress. I see that you have no clue how our government functions (or are a liar, or maybe both), but that is called veto proof dipshit. So yeah, Congress can pass a law and make a president do something.


If you think that Trump was against the sanctions that congress passed, then you're a fricking idiot! I said NOTHING about the constitutionality of a veto proof bill, Fool. Are you so stupid to think that congress could come up with a bill that 2/3 of its members would approve that Trump would be against?
Your bias is so strong that it makes you appear extremely obtuse and narrow minded...or maybe that's just you.
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
30596 posts
Posted on 7/18/18 at 4:45 pm to
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I dont have to look anything up.

You stupid bastard, I was addressing Rockee..a excellent example of your dangerously zealous and narrow minded view of Trump.
Posted by Tiger n Miami AU83
Miami
Member since Oct 2007
45656 posts
Posted on 7/18/18 at 4:46 pm to
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If you think that Trump was against the sanctions that congress passed, then you're a fricking idiot! 


Ok. You are too stupid for me to continue to converse with. frick off.
Posted by Tiger n Miami AU83
Miami
Member since Oct 2007
45656 posts
Posted on 7/18/18 at 4:51 pm to
But just to make you look stupid while I order dinner...

quote:

e Trump administration shocked Washington when it refused to implement new, legally mandated sanctions against Russia in January. The White House claimed there was no need for new sanctions, because the law itself was already deterring those considering doing business with Russia. Yet, since then, not only did a U.S. grand jury indict 13 Russians for fraud and other charges, but the U.S. intelligence community unanimously told Congress that Russia hasn’t stopped interfering in American democracy. Director of National Intelligence Dan Coats even testified before the Senate Intelligence Committee that the “United States is under attack.” Despite this, the Trump administration continues to stick to its claim that the situation requires no additional sanctions. This is worse than doing nothing.


LINK /

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Trump administration holds off on new Russia sanctions, despite law



LINK

quote:

News › World › Americas

Trump refuses to impose new Russia sanctions despite law passed by US Congress over election hacking

'It just doesn’t make sense'



LINK

The Trump administration has announced it will not impose additional sanctions on Russia, despite Congress passing a lawallowing the President to do so. 

With Monday the deadline for the White House to impose any new measures, the US State Department insisted the threat of sanctions was already acting as a deterrent. 


Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
30596 posts
Posted on 7/18/18 at 4:57 pm to
..you are definitely one of those minions of "hired hand" bean counters that one runs into in a typical business office...bless your inconsequential little heart!
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
30596 posts
Posted on 7/18/18 at 5:08 pm to
Where, in any of all that, does it state that Trump isn't upholding a law mandated by Congress? Giving authority and passing a law requiring action are two entirely different things.
Once again, your irrational bias makes you look silly!...just stop it!
Posted by Tiger n Miami AU83
Miami
Member since Oct 2007
45656 posts
Posted on 7/18/18 at 5:18 pm to
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you are definitely one of those minions of "hired hand" bean counters that one runs into in a typical business office...bless your inconsequential little heart!


See, this is how I know I'm dealing with a loser at life. Ignorant personal attacks.

I dont know why I engage with people like u though I do try to avoid it.

And I really dont even understand your comment. It makes no sense as far as what I do for a living which is frankly of no concern to you. I dont care what you do. But I probably pay more in just federal taxes than you and your family (if you have one) make in a year.
Posted by piggilicious
Member since Jan 2011
37298 posts
Posted on 7/18/18 at 5:24 pm to
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See, this is how I know I'm dealing with a loser at life. Ignorant personal attacks.


That’s hysterical. Do you even read what you type? Nearly every sentence is riddled with stupid/idiot etc.
This post was edited on 7/18/18 at 5:27 pm
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
30596 posts
Posted on 7/18/18 at 5:29 pm to
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See, this is how I know I'm dealing with a loser at life. Ignorant personal attacks.

I dont know why I engage with people like u though I do try to avoid it.

And I really dont even understand your comment. It makes no sense as far as what I do for a living which is frankly of no concern to you. I dont care what you do. But I probably pay more in just federal taxes than you and your family (if you have one) make in a year.

Your past comments and general demeanor on the board led me to my conclusion..hell, I had folks like you on my payroll for years, and have one now to keep me out of an IRS office.
As for our incomes, I sold my business to a publicly traded entity and retired in 2001, and was blessed to be very comfortable financially...I don't have a clue what your employer pays you...and don't care.......I thought you were through conversing with me?..what changed?
Posted by rockiee
Sugar Land, TX
Member since Jan 2015
28540 posts
Posted on 7/18/18 at 5:30 pm to
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The article was about facts. Regardless of who writes/says it....a fact is a fact.. If you're skeptical...look the events up yourself!


I just stated a fact of who she works for, don't get so defensive

FWIW, I would say the same thing if I saw she wrote for MSNBC.
This post was edited on 7/18/18 at 5:34 pm
Posted by BowlJackson
Birmingham, AL
Member since Sep 2013
52881 posts
Posted on 7/18/18 at 6:03 pm to
quote:

The article was about facts. Regardless of who writes/says it....a fact is a fact.. If you're skeptical...look the events up yourself!


Too bad those facts were negated when Trump met Putin in person and he turned into a quivering cuckold
This post was edited on 7/18/18 at 7:16 pm
Posted by PhilipMarlowe
Member since Mar 2013
20482 posts
Posted on 7/18/18 at 6:18 pm to
quote:


But just to make you look stupid while I order dinner...

quote:
e Trump administration shocked Washington when it refused to implement new, legally mandated sanctions against Russia in January. The White House claimed there was no need for new sanctions, because the law itself was already deterring those considering doing business with Russia. Yet, since then, not only did a U.S. grand jury indict 13 Russians for fraud and other charges, but the U.S. intelligence community unanimously told Congress that Russia hasn’t stopped interfering in American democracy. Director of National Intelligence Dan Coats even testified before the Senate Intelligence Committee that the “United States is under attack.” Despite this, the Trump administration continues to stick to its claim that the situation requires no additional sanctions. This is worse than doing nothing.


LINK /

quote:
Trump administration holds off on new Russia sanctions, despite law


LINK

quote:
News › World › Americas

Trump refuses to impose new Russia sanctions despite law passed by US Congress over election hacking

'It just doesn’t make sense'


LINK

The Trump administration has announced it will not impose additional sanctions on Russia, despite Congress passing a lawallowing the President to do so. 

With Monday the deadline for the White House to impose any new measures, the US State Department insisted the threat of sanctions was already acting as a deterrent. 







Crisp just got mic dropped y’all.
Posted by Tiger n Miami AU83
Miami
Member since Oct 2007
45656 posts
Posted on 7/18/18 at 6:30 pm to
This is fricking hilarious.

Yesterday I guaranteed the lying pussy beta cuck conman would totally flip flop and do a 180 precisely because he is a mealy mouth conman but to see it in words with time stamps is comical. Dude is the biggest pussy ever.

quote:

President Donald Trump and his White House staff, facing an onslaught of bipartisan fury over his glowing remarks about Vladimir Putin, have been forced to walk-back, clarify, and outright deny remarks Trump made that have cast doubt on his belief in US intelligence agencies' findings that the Russians did in fact meddle in the US election.
Confused? You're not alone. Here's a short timeline of what's been said:
Monday, 11:50 a.m. ET: During Monday's news conference, Trump sided with Putin over US intelligence, saying, "My people came to me -- Dan Coats came to me and some others -- they said they think it’s Russia. I have President Putin; he just said it’s not Russia. I will say this: I don’t see any reason why it would be." Moments later, he added, "I have great confidence in my intelligence people, but I will tell you that President Putin was extremely strong and powerful in his denial today."
Monday, 3:40 p.m. ET: Trump tweeted, "As I said today and many times before, 'I have GREAT confidence in MY intelligence people.' However, I also recognize that in order to build a brighter future, we cannot exclusively focus on the past – as the world’s two largest nuclear powers, we must get along!"
Tuesday, 2:30 p.m. ET: Facing a growing backlash upon returning to Washington, D.C., Trump said that he "realized there is some need for clarification" about his remarks on Russian interference in the 2016 US election. "In a key sentence in my remarks I said the word 'would' instead of 'wouldn't.'" He explained he had reviewed a transcript and video of his remarks. "The sentence should have been: 'I don't see any reason why it wouldn't be Russia'," he said. Sort of a double negative."
Wednesday, 12:30 p.m. ET: Speaking during a Cabinet meeting at the White House, Trump was asked by a reporter if Russia was still targeting the US. "No," he responded, looking directly at the reporter. 
Wednesday, 2:45 p.m. ET: Asked about the comment later, White House press secretary Sarah Sanders said the President was declining to answer shouted questionswhen he said "no," and not disputing intelligence findings. "The President said 'thank you very much' and said no to answering questions," Sanders said.
Wednesday, 5 p.m. ET: President Trump said he holds his Russian counterpart Vladimir Putin personally responsible for Moscow's attempts to interfere in the 2016 US election. In an interview with CBS News anchor Jeff Glor, Trump said Putin was culpable as Russia's leader. "I would because he’s in charge of the country just like I consider myself to be responsible for things that happen in this country," Trump said. "So certainly as the leader of the country you would have to hold him responsible."



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