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Overachiever or underachiever? Ranking all Power Five teams (Rivals)

Posted on 5/23/18 at 5:22 am
Posted by TideSaint
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Posted on 5/23/18 at 5:22 am
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College football is run by expectations. Teams are judged against them, coaches are fired because of them and public opinion is shaped around them. It’s why there’s constant talk of teams “doing more with less” or “wasting talent.”

These are not niche conversations. It’s why Rivals.com has created a formula to measure which programs really have accomplished more with less and which schools fail to get the most out of their NFL-level talent over the last decade.

This week, we’ll roll out an analytical, NFL Draft-based series that looks at a decade’s worth of data. This is a measure of overachieving and underachieving based on NFL talent each college team has on its roster against the number of wins, Top 25 finishes and titles produced.

We used the below formula created by Rivals.com's Rob Cassidy and statistician D. Kyle Burkett on every Power Five conference team, and the median score among them was used as the basis to determine just how much each team overachieved or underachieved based on its NFL talent.

The formula is as follows (data was collected starting with the 2008 season and the 2009 NFL Draft):

Talent Efficiency Score = ((Wins/3)+(AP Top 25 Finishes x 3) + (Power Conference Title X 6) + (Group of Five Conference titles x 3) + (National titles x 9)) / TOTAL DRAFT PICKS


NOTE: In the case of a split conference title, the points were divided evenly among the winners. (E.G. two Power Conference winners were granted three points apiece, three winners were given two a piece, etc.).

With all the boring math explained and out of the way, we kick off the weeklong series with a look at the Power Five’s five biggest overachievers and five biggest underachievers as determined by our formula. The following days will include a closer look at each Power Five league and how the teams in each rate on the efficiency scale. A full ranking of Power Five teams and how they stacked up to the average can be found below.


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POWER 5 LIST

All Power Five teams (excluding Notre Dame) ranked from 1-64, with No. 1 being the biggest overachieving program based on success vs. the NFL talent on its roster and No. 64 being the most underachieving program.

1. Duke (4.312)

2. Oklahoma State (1.751)

3. Iowa State (1.645)

4. Northwestern (1.534)

5. Kansas State (1.384)

6. Oregon (1.187)

7. Michigan State (1.183)

8. TCU (.910)

9. Georgia Tech (.768)

10. Texas Tech (.764)

11. Auburn (.699)

12. Virginia Tech (.645)

13. Stanford (.583)

14. Wisconsin (.582)

15. Alabama (.550)

16. Minnesota (.494)

17. Texas (.452)

18. Oklahoma (.449)

19. Clemson (.408)

20. Vanderbilt (.336)

21. Florida State (.274)

22. Baylor (.264)

23. Ohio State (.224)

24. Washington State (.212)

25. Louisville (.206)

26. Washington (.205)

27. Arizona (.194)

28. West Virginia (.168)

29. Utah (.151)

30. Ole Miss (.045)

31. Missouri (.026)


T32. Arizona State (-.004)

T32. Kentucky (.004)

34. Penn State (–.020)

35. Nebraska (–.053)

36. Mississippi State (–.059)

37. Pittsburgh (–.132)

38. Syracuse (–.142)

39. Texas A&M (–.158)

40. Kansas (–.187)

41. USC (–.205)

42. South Carolina (–.207)

43. Colorado (–.220)

44. Maryland (–.224)

45. Rutgers (–.229)

T46. Virginia (–.270)

T46. Wake Forest (–.270)

48. Michigan (–.275)

49. Purdue (–.277)

50. NC State (–.280)

51. Boston College (–.283)

52. Georgia (–.321)

53. Tennessee (–.328)


54. Indiana (–.330)

55. Florida (–.342)

56. Oregon State (–.367)

57. Iowa (–.372)

58. LSU (–.405)

59. Arkansas (–.495)


60. UCLA (–.557)

61. Miami (–.609)

62. North Carolina (–.644)

63. Illinois (–.716)

64. California (–.751)
Posted by IgotstrongClap
Middle of land
Member since May 2018
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Posted on 5/23/18 at 5:55 am to
If I had to guess before reading I would have put is at the bottom. Arkansas has had a ridiculous amount of NFL talent to be so mediocre through the years.
Posted by Sid E Walker
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Member since Nov 2013
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Posted on 5/23/18 at 6:00 am to
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11. Auburn (.699)

15. Alabama (.550)

20. Vanderbilt (.336)

Big 3.
Posted by madmaxvol
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Member since Oct 2011
20938 posts
Posted on 5/23/18 at 7:07 am to
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1. Duke (4.312)


Coach Cut...getting it done.
Posted by LanierSpots
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Member since Sep 2010
66678 posts
Posted on 5/23/18 at 7:12 am to
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11. Auburn (.699)


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52. Georgia (–.321)


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58. LSU (–.405)






Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
39986 posts
Posted on 5/23/18 at 7:15 am to
All I see are addition signs there. No subtraction. How do they get negative scores?

What am I missing?
Posted by JCdawg
Member since Sep 2014
8363 posts
Posted on 5/23/18 at 7:16 am to
Georgia to high...
Posted by LewDawg
Member since May 2009
76568 posts
Posted on 5/23/18 at 7:17 am to
I don't understand the thread so I'm to going to take it as disrespect
Posted by BranchDawg
Flowery Branch
Member since Nov 2013
9932 posts
Posted on 5/23/18 at 7:20 am to
, You're telling me that Georgia's a bigger underachiever than Michigan? At least we've won a conference championship since the recession, and people still call UM an elite program. They haven't finished higher than 3rd in their division in 6 years.
Posted by JCdawg
Member since Sep 2014
8363 posts
Posted on 5/23/18 at 7:23 am to
Michigan is definitely an underachiever, but Georgia has done far less with way more talent as of lately, until last season of course.
Posted by Che Boludo
Member since May 2009
20297 posts
Posted on 5/23/18 at 7:28 am to
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All I see are addition signs there. No subtraction. How do they get negative scores?

What am I missing?
Could be wrong, but I think the formula simply generates a score. The poll used those scores to establish a median score. All rankings are (+) or (-) points away from that median score.
Posted by VADawg
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Member since Nov 2011
46944 posts
Posted on 5/23/18 at 8:11 am to
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You're telling me that Georgia's a bigger underachiever than Michigan?


Based on talent, absolutely
Posted by FearlessFreep
Baja Alabama
Member since Nov 2009
18488 posts
Posted on 5/23/18 at 8:23 am to
Good idea, executed poorly.

The problem is in the denominator: just because a player is or isn't selected in the draft is not an accurate indicator of "NFL talent".

I think a more accurate measure would be to tweak the formula to include UDFA who made NFL rosters, and exclude draft picks who didn't make the cut.
Posted by bigDgator
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2008
46770 posts
Posted on 5/23/18 at 8:33 am to
So you're tellin' me that Florida has underachieved the last 10 years.

Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
38303 posts
Posted on 5/23/18 at 8:40 am to
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Coach Cut...getting it done.


Glad he chose to turn the vols down.
Posted by Che Boludo
Member since May 2009
20297 posts
Posted on 5/23/18 at 8:56 am to
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Glad he chose to turn the vols down.

True. Ole Miss AD was shortsighted in firing him after his sole losing season on the heels of UM's best season in 30+ years having earned its only football banner of any sort since the segregation era.
Posted by MaroonNation
StarkVegas, Mississippi, Bitch!
Member since Nov 2010
22079 posts
Posted on 5/23/18 at 1:59 pm to
Cut wouldn’t recruit dirty. That’s why Ole Miss fired him.
Posted by AlwysATgr
Member since Apr 2008
19099 posts
Posted on 5/23/18 at 2:12 pm to
I'm surprised we aren't lower.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
105102 posts
Posted on 5/23/18 at 2:13 pm to
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15. Alabama (.550)


We've always been a lil engine that could type program
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora
Member since Sep 2012
70636 posts
Posted on 5/23/18 at 3:50 pm to
Georgia Tech backdooring into the acccg a few years ago throws this off. Any list that says GT is overachieving is severely flawed. List is shite.
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