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Actual football question, offensive line rotation.
Posted on 11/21/17 at 11:20 am
Posted on 11/21/17 at 11:20 am
So I see that defenses are constantly rotating the big boys in and out because they get tired. Does the same not hold true for the O-line? Is continuity or momentum the issue? Are the offensive lineman exerting less energy than the defensive lineman?
Posted on 11/21/17 at 11:51 am to BamaFinland
OL works more closely together in coordination, as more of a unit, than the DL. You don't necessarily want to break up the band just to get a slightly fresher guy in there.
Posted on 11/21/17 at 11:53 am to BamaFinland
Definitely there is less energy involved as linemen aren't chasing linebackers and defensive backs to block them 50 yards away from the snap (30-40 yards downfield) unless it is a screen.
Posted on 11/21/17 at 12:13 pm to meansonny
Also, OL doesn't have to tackle people (except Auburn's OL).
Posted on 11/21/17 at 12:15 pm to BamaFinland
Often times, you will see d-linemen fake a rush, and drop back in pass coverage. That combined with constant lateral pursuit means much more running for d-linemen than o-linemen.
Posted on 11/21/17 at 12:15 pm to BamaFinland
Insightful question. A rarity on this forum.
Posted on 11/21/17 at 12:25 pm to DivStig88
Yea, the rotation has more to do with package or scheme rather than rest. For instance, a jumbo in obvious short yardage or max protect in obvious passing downs.
Posted on 11/21/17 at 12:37 pm to BamaFinland
Continuity is definitely the biggest part of it, IMO, because of how important communication is. OL relies on combination blocks, switching assignments based on where defenders are lined up, and what your RBs are doing in pass protection, among other things. That’s one of the biggest reasons why you don’t see OL swapping in and out like DL do. OL are generally using less energy, too. DL are essentially in a full speed sprint on every play at some point.
Posted on 11/21/17 at 12:39 pm to deeprig9
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Also, OL doesn't have to tackle people (except Auburn's OL).
Melt Day: 10
Posted on 11/21/17 at 12:48 pm to BamaFinland
Good answers so far. Just want to chime in and say that I played running back, defensive end, linebacker, and right guard on the o line between 7th and 12th grade. I never had more fun than when I got to be the fat kid on the offensive line.
Posted on 11/21/17 at 12:57 pm to BamaFinland
Fatigue impacts the positions differently also. A gassed ol can still block effectively, but a tired dl is nowhere near the threat a fresh one is.
Posted on 11/21/17 at 1:04 pm to Master of Sinanju
Some good answers but I'd add that reaction takes more energy than action. Offensive players rarely get gassed unless they'running routes or long TD's.
Posted on 11/21/17 at 1:11 pm to Cylinder
Correct.
Rest is a good secondary effect of rotating however.
Rest is a good secondary effect of rotating however.
Posted on 11/21/17 at 1:13 pm to BamaFinland
I think its all been about covered. Two thoughts I agree with most:
-cohesion on the OL needs continuity and trust that comes from reps playing together. OL is a unit that must play in unison to be effective. Plug and play would be disruptive.
-offense always have the advantage as they know where the play is going, using less energy than the Ds who are in reaction/disruption mode.
-cohesion on the OL needs continuity and trust that comes from reps playing together. OL is a unit that must play in unison to be effective. Plug and play would be disruptive.
-offense always have the advantage as they know where the play is going, using less energy than the Ds who are in reaction/disruption mode.
Posted on 11/21/17 at 1:15 pm to Tuscaloosa
Also, defensive players are often in pursuit of the ball carrier. OL seldom do much past their point of attack. Pursuit every play, especially vs an effective side to side offense.
There are reasons the jet sweep and Wr screens are ran multiple times even when they don't seem particularly effective.
There are reasons the jet sweep and Wr screens are ran multiple times even when they don't seem particularly effective.
Posted on 11/21/17 at 1:20 pm to BamaFinland
Like somebody said, on a pass play a defensive lineman is basically in a sprint against 300+ lbs of resistance. Offensive lineman can't go downfield on passes, but defensive linemen are trying to get up the field then will chase after the pass, particularly against these dink and dunk pass attacks.
On run plays, they are often getting double teamed or if not for the full play for the initial part of the play (or trying to tie up more than one blocker) so trying to fight through 600+ lbs at that point.
On run plays, they are often getting double teamed or if not for the full play for the initial part of the play (or trying to tie up more than one blocker) so trying to fight through 600+ lbs at that point.
Posted on 11/21/17 at 1:20 pm to StringedInstruments
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Good answers so far.
Yes there has been and I appreciate everyone's input.
What led me to ask this question was watching a HUNH offense the other day and the announcers kept talking about the defense being gassed, but what about those poor o-linemen? They are not seeming to be getting a break either. I only played DB and RB in HS so I have no clue about what it's like to be in the trenches.
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