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the criticism on jalen hurts
Posted on 9/8/17 at 10:38 am
Posted on 9/8/17 at 10:38 am
not really criticism per se, imho. goes like this - kid is a great athlete with a lot of poise, and has the abilities to be a great college qb for Alabama. BUT, if you put him on the roster of practically any other top 10 school, how would he do? the perception is that he would not win championships without the Alabama defense and special teams.
for Alabama, he does enough to win games. but I wouldn't want him as LSU's qb. even though we have a good defense, I dont' want to go back to a so-so passer at qb. we've had that for so many years, and are just now poised to come out of that purgatory.
that's my 2 cents worth.
for Alabama, he does enough to win games. but I wouldn't want him as LSU's qb. even though we have a good defense, I dont' want to go back to a so-so passer at qb. we've had that for so many years, and are just now poised to come out of that purgatory.
that's my 2 cents worth.
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Posted on 9/8/17 at 10:39 am to stephendomalley
So, my takeaway from your post is that you feel having the Alabama defense makes it easier to win.
I agree.
I agree.
Posted on 9/8/17 at 10:40 am to stephendomalley
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I dont' want to go back to a so-so passer at qb.
Yet, you have Danny Etling
Posted on 9/8/17 at 10:41 am to stephendomalley
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I dont' want to go back to a so-so passer at qb.
Pump the brakes
When did we have a QB good enough to label him "so-so"?
This post was edited on 9/8/17 at 10:43 am
Posted on 9/8/17 at 10:44 am to stephendomalley
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I dont' want to go back to a so-so passer at qb.
Go back to?
Posted on 9/8/17 at 10:45 am to stephendomalley
quote:I don't think Saban really wants him either; he doesn't have much choice. But they've probably gotten used to using rb's at qb.
, I dont' want to go back to a so-so passer at qb. we've had that for so many years, and are just now poised to come out of that purgatory.
Posted on 9/8/17 at 10:46 am to stephendomalley
I think he should be a running back as elusive as he is.
Posted on 9/8/17 at 10:48 am to stephendomalley
His running ability makes him dangerous every snap. I dont think he would be near as good at a lesser school but would still be more than adequate of a qb
Posted on 9/8/17 at 10:54 am to stephendomalley
Saban has pulled the reins back on passing. Love Saban, but he is not about developing anything other than a qb that can manage a game.
Posted on 9/8/17 at 10:55 am to stephendomalley
Posted on 9/8/17 at 10:55 am to stephendomalley
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but I wouldn't want him as LSU's qb. even though we have a good defense, I dont' want to go back to a so-so passer at qb
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I dont' want to go back to a so-so passer at qb
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go back to a so-so passer at qb
Go back to? Is the implication here that you have moved on to a better than so-so passer?
Posted on 9/8/17 at 11:09 am to stephendomalley
Watch this video and then say he wasnt a good passer last season
freshman highlights
freshman highlights
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Posted on 9/8/17 at 11:20 am to stephendomalley
Right now I think the criticism is unwarranted. I think Hurts was 10/18 Saturday. Out of those incompletions, Ridley was purposely held on a pass (probably would've been a TD)and the freshman WR Ruggs dropped a potential 24 yard TD pass. Also on a 20 yard pass Ridley wasn't able to plant his feet in bounds.
This post was edited on 9/8/17 at 11:26 am
Posted on 9/8/17 at 11:28 am to stephendomalley
He's not a very accurate passer, but when you QB a team to a 14-1 record as a true freshman, then you're doing something right. He usually takes off at the right time and makes a big play with his feet. If not for Clemson's offense being awesome, his great run in the title game in the closing minutes would have been the game winner. With their D and running game, they just need him to make plays with his feet, complete the easy ones and not turn the ball over. Unless another QB comes along with greater talents that is as collected on the field as he is, I see him being at Bama for 4 years. I don't see him as an NFL QB, but who knows...
Posted on 9/8/17 at 11:32 am to stephendomalley
Can we wait till Hurts gets to play vs a non elite defense before we start judging how much he improved between his true frosh and sophomore seasons ?
His legs prevented 100 yards of sacks the other night. Literally. FSU defense is elite. Not sure their D is getting enough credit for their performance vs Bama.
Francois had a much more impressive pass chart, but he also turned the ball over a few times, and Hurts did not... it was the difference in the game.
CNS is not going to lose the turnover battle in a game like that by cutting his QB loose. Protect the ball and play defense like savages - this is his formula, and I'd say its been a fairly successful formula.
Hurts and Bama have just now come through a stretch where they have faced four elite defenses in a row for high stakes. That has to be taken into consideration.
Word from non bammer analysts over the off-season was Hurts had greatly improved.
Once he gets a clean pocket to stand in lets see how he reads the field, and whether or not he gets the ball where it needs to go. Then we will know what sort of progress there has been.
Anyone that saw the touch on his passes the other night when he had time to set his feet could plainly see he has progressed so my money is on Hurts proving his doubters wrong.
His legs prevented 100 yards of sacks the other night. Literally. FSU defense is elite. Not sure their D is getting enough credit for their performance vs Bama.
Francois had a much more impressive pass chart, but he also turned the ball over a few times, and Hurts did not... it was the difference in the game.
CNS is not going to lose the turnover battle in a game like that by cutting his QB loose. Protect the ball and play defense like savages - this is his formula, and I'd say its been a fairly successful formula.
Hurts and Bama have just now come through a stretch where they have faced four elite defenses in a row for high stakes. That has to be taken into consideration.
Word from non bammer analysts over the off-season was Hurts had greatly improved.
Once he gets a clean pocket to stand in lets see how he reads the field, and whether or not he gets the ball where it needs to go. Then we will know what sort of progress there has been.
Anyone that saw the touch on his passes the other night when he had time to set his feet could plainly see he has progressed so my money is on Hurts proving his doubters wrong.
Posted on 9/8/17 at 11:49 am to stephendomalley
First off no LSU fan should be critisizing any body elses qb. Specially not Bamas. Hurts is better than anything yall got. And for the past 10 years. Maybe more. I do think that we need to give Tagalavoa a chance though. Hurts is ok and he got skills. But I think that he is missing it between the ears. He has lost his confidence. He is shaky on his throws cause he has lost it. He got the arm to make the throw, he just can't put it where he needs to unless the wr is wide open down the middle of the field. Tua is the real deal and we need to give him the shot if we want to win the title. We may can do a 3 peat if we get Tua the time in before we get to the meat of the season.
Posted on 9/8/17 at 11:50 am to stephendomalley
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that's my 2 cents worth.
These type of threads are hilarious, did you watch the actual game or just took cliff notes? Hurts missed 2 throws he should made... 6 throw a ways passes 1 Pass interference 1 Ridley didn't get his feet in bounds and one the Wr. Dropped. He's in 1st game in a new system against a Top 10 defense who brought their safety off the edge. 0 turnovers O interceptions. When given time he made accurate throws. Don't make me laugh about LSU QB situation.
Posted on 9/8/17 at 12:06 pm to stephendomalley
Hurts is a very good athlete and a smart QB, but very average arm strength and that's being kind.
His legs worry me far more than his arm.
His legs worry me far more than his arm.
Posted on 9/8/17 at 12:06 pm to stephendomalley
Whole lot of stupid in this thread and some pretty good points as well.
Lets compare;
att comp yds/att tds int yds/gm
True Freshman: 382 240 7.3 23 9 185.3
Junior 269 160 7.9 11 5 193
rushing: att yards tds
True Freshman 191 951 13
junior not listed in the top 50 in SEC.
Hmmm.
true freshman had a better completion % than the Junior and throw in another game against much better competition than Etling ever saw (except against Bama, right?)
Lets compare;
att comp yds/att tds int yds/gm
True Freshman: 382 240 7.3 23 9 185.3
Junior 269 160 7.9 11 5 193
rushing: att yards tds
True Freshman 191 951 13
junior not listed in the top 50 in SEC.
Hmmm.
true freshman had a better completion % than the Junior and throw in another game against much better competition than Etling ever saw (except against Bama, right?)
Posted on 9/8/17 at 12:12 pm to stephendomalley
He acts kinda weird on the sidelines.
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