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re: No KKK thread?
Posted on 8/16/17 at 6:17 am to Lucius Clay
Posted on 8/16/17 at 6:17 am to Lucius Clay
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A true American patriot...and a person who could see through the con artist currently occupying the White House
Let me guess, you're an obama nutsucker, eh? I don't hear you condemning the BLM attacks, black panthers, or murders of cops? But what we are hearing is that YOU are saying he is inciting violence. But hey, obama invited that terrorist group BLM to the white house... Just sayin.
Posted on 8/16/17 at 7:17 am to Spaceman Spiff
I hate neo-nazis. I hate the KKK. I hate white nationalist.
But the minute I show up to counter-protest with a baseball bat and coolers full of piss and feces, then I am no better than they are.
Hating a hate group with equal hate is counter-productive because it legitimizes the neo-nazis arguments, it legitimizes the neo-nazis platform, and with Newton's law of equal and opposite force it escalates the violent nature between both hate groups.
I hate sounding like a tree hugging liberal. But there is too much hate out there (liberals included). I think Trump is calling it like he sees it. But he isn't showing leadership to solve it (it has been a long time since we have sniffed true leadership). We need an MLK or Billy Graham or someone to say to hell with the left vs right rhetoric and get to the root cause of these asinine problems.
But the minute I show up to counter-protest with a baseball bat and coolers full of piss and feces, then I am no better than they are.
Hating a hate group with equal hate is counter-productive because it legitimizes the neo-nazis arguments, it legitimizes the neo-nazis platform, and with Newton's law of equal and opposite force it escalates the violent nature between both hate groups.
I hate sounding like a tree hugging liberal. But there is too much hate out there (liberals included). I think Trump is calling it like he sees it. But he isn't showing leadership to solve it (it has been a long time since we have sniffed true leadership). We need an MLK or Billy Graham or someone to say to hell with the left vs right rhetoric and get to the root cause of these asinine problems.
Posted on 8/16/17 at 7:24 am to meansonny
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I think Trump is calling it like he sees it. But he isn't showing leadership to solve it (it has been a long time since we have sniffed true leadership).
bullshite.
The left is far more violent than the right ever was. Maybe its time to fight fire with fire. As far as him calling it as he sees it and reacting, he is saying the things that no one has the balls to do. These "people" need to be dealt with swiftly and justly - and mercilessly.
What you are forgetting is that these supposed groups are paid for the left to disrupt and destroy from within. Hence, the Clinton foundation giving some 800K to said groups to support their "disruptions."
Trump is doing exactly what needs to be done. But he needs to go further. Those fricking cowards need to be charged to the fullest extent of the law.
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I hate neo-nazis. I hate the KKK. I hate white nationalist.
Where is your condemnation of these terrorist groups: blm, black panthers, antifa???
Destroying public/private property and violence is not protesting, that is terrorism.
This post was edited on 8/16/17 at 8:21 am
Posted on 8/16/17 at 7:43 am to Spaceman Spiff
The BLM leader that headed up pulling down the statue in Durham was arrested. Nice to see at least in Durham they don't turn the other way from vandalism if it's politically expedient.
She's also the head of the local chapter of the World Workers Party
What a jewel. Weren't we just talking about Marxism responsible for more deaths in 20th century than Nazis?
I'm sure not all of the protesters were violent marxists who's philosophical leaders are blood covered murderers. Some are probably good people there to voice their concerns with what's been going on in the community.
There's some irony here somewhere but I can't put my finger on it...
She's also the head of the local chapter of the World Workers Party
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Workers World Party defines itself as, "a revolutionary Marxist-Leninist party dedicated to organizing and fighting for a socialist revolution in the United States and around the world."
What a jewel. Weren't we just talking about Marxism responsible for more deaths in 20th century than Nazis?
I'm sure not all of the protesters were violent marxists who's philosophical leaders are blood covered murderers. Some are probably good people there to voice their concerns with what's been going on in the community.
There's some irony here somewhere but I can't put my finger on it...
This post was edited on 8/16/17 at 8:03 am
Posted on 8/16/17 at 7:53 am to SquatchDawg
The Communist Party angle in all of this amazes me. They should have the same stigma as the Nazis, but don't for whatever reason.
Posted on 8/16/17 at 8:43 am to Peter Buck
You have to be complete moron to support the "Workers Party", the Socialist or Communists movements, if you are not part of the power structure. People are so blinded by ideology and a vision of some non-existent Utopia they cannot see reality when it's right in front of them. Please take a close look at what is happening in Venezuela. That is your Utopian socialist future. All of those movements / systems profit only the people in power. The rest of us will be left fighting for the scraps.
Posted on 8/16/17 at 9:47 am to Peter Buck
The Marxist/Communist movement is the organization & funding behind most of these leftist protestors. Climate Change, IMF, BLM, Transgender Rights, Anti War, No Blood for Oil, etc. - look closely and they're all full of these marxist/anarchists. Even if something starts organically these agitators gravitate to any movement that they think will be useful in promoting far left ideas and socialist revolution. It's all Alinsky class warfare tactics but now social "victims" are the new "workers" that they're trying to unite.
Their senior leaders are the activists of the 60's and are littered throughout the Democratic Party and Left power hierarchy and their goal is revolution and the installation of a socialist/communist government with them at the top as the ruling class. Our Universities are full of useful idiots that buy into this garbage...from top to bottom unfortunately.
White extremists gravitate to conservative movements but where we openly condemn/shun these people the left accepts Marxist supporters and promotes people with Marxist pedigrees into their highest power circles. It's no secret that Axelrod, Valerie Jarrett, Van Jones, even Obama...had communist parents or were influenced heavily by communists.
This isn't tin foil hat stuff - its indisputable.
Their senior leaders are the activists of the 60's and are littered throughout the Democratic Party and Left power hierarchy and their goal is revolution and the installation of a socialist/communist government with them at the top as the ruling class. Our Universities are full of useful idiots that buy into this garbage...from top to bottom unfortunately.
White extremists gravitate to conservative movements but where we openly condemn/shun these people the left accepts Marxist supporters and promotes people with Marxist pedigrees into their highest power circles. It's no secret that Axelrod, Valerie Jarrett, Van Jones, even Obama...had communist parents or were influenced heavily by communists.
This isn't tin foil hat stuff - its indisputable.
This post was edited on 8/16/17 at 10:20 am
Posted on 8/16/17 at 10:38 am to SquatchDawg
Oh, way down South in the land of cotton......
Old times there..... are not forgotten....
Look away.......................
Look away........
Look Away..
.....Dixie Land
Old times there..... are not forgotten....
Look away.......................
Look away........
Look Away..
.....Dixie Land
Posted on 8/16/17 at 11:26 am to Jefferson Dawg
I tersting that the guy who whipped up the "alt-right" march in VA was an Alt-left occupy Wall Street guy with ties to the Cominist Party. In three years, he moved for the far left to the far right... there was also an article about a guy who got fired from a pizza place in VT who was also far left until recently according to his teacher.
Interesting either way... at worst, this would suggest that there was an organized attempt to infiltrate and even lead the alt right...or, at best, it shows that far right and far left are essentially the same personality/physcholigal issues....
Interesting either way... at worst, this would suggest that there was an organized attempt to infiltrate and even lead the alt right...or, at best, it shows that far right and far left are essentially the same personality/physcholigal issues....
Posted on 8/16/17 at 11:52 am to retooc
There are some very intelligent people in this thread. . .
There are also some that are not . . .
There are also some that are not . . .
Posted on 8/16/17 at 12:11 pm to ngadawg250
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There are some very intelligent people in this thread. . .
There are also some that are not .
While true, you should watch your post count. You're about to run out.
Thanks for playing.
Posted on 8/16/17 at 12:20 pm to Spaceman Spiff
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Maybe its time to fight fire with fire
Anybody with any sense of history knows that this will not resolve anything. Again... Newton's theory that every action will generate an equal reaction (and so on until we are all dead). This is essentially the point of my post that antifa and these counter-protests only make things worse and spur on the neo-nazis further.
quote:all lawbreakers should be charged and given due process.
Those fricking cowards need to be charged to the fullest extent of the law.
You seem to be missing the point that the more you hate them... the more they will hate back. And vice versa. Our country is spiraling right now, and that isn't good.
The solution to our problem is tough. It is spurred on by the media because it sells. But this attempt to be angrier than the other side has to stop. Fighting fire with fire has to stop. Attempting to humiliate, belittle, and name call the other side has to stop.
I hate sounding like a tree hugger. But history tells us that there are only 2 possible outcomes. Escalation. Or compromise. It is what it is. This is the type of leadership that we need.
Posted on 8/16/17 at 12:28 pm to meansonny
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Or compromise
Compromise? Laughable.
Not with factions paid for by Soros and company, with the intent of creating a socialist type state. Now if it's compromise, then all statues of blacks should be torn down, too...after all, didn't they sell their own people into slavery and also enslave more than any group of whites ever have?
Also, since we are on that same subject of placating the louder group - what about all the MLK statues...shouldn't they be removed due to him opposing gay marriage?
There is no compromise and placating the liberal mental disorder.
Posted on 8/16/17 at 12:39 pm to RhodeDawg
Quick to listen; slow to speak.
Posted on 8/16/17 at 12:46 pm to RhodeDawg
My question is simple. Does verifiable truth matter any more, or is everything always filtered through some ideological lens - which clearly reveals bias?
Posted on 8/16/17 at 12:50 pm to ngadawg250
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Does verifiable truth matter any more, or is everything always filtered through some ideological lens - which clearly reveals bias?
Ideological lens....next question please
Posted on 8/16/17 at 12:59 pm to ngadawg250
Social media and conditioning have allowed the bias lense to be refined and even more effective.
Posted on 8/16/17 at 12:59 pm to IT_Dawg
Next question is a self-reflective one.
"Which one am I?"
"Which one am I?"
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