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Interesting NY Times article on University of Alabama and USCe
Posted on 11/8/16 at 6:59 am
Posted on 11/8/16 at 6:59 am
Posted on 11/8/16 at 7:03 am to Ramblin Wreck
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Alabamians are now just 43 percent of the student body

Posted on 11/8/16 at 7:10 am to Cdawg
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Alabamians are now just 43 percent of the student body
I think they have maintained the same actual number of Alabamians, total enrollment has dramatically increased
Posted on 11/8/16 at 7:12 am to Cdawg
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Alabamians are now just 43 percent of the student body
Just means more money from out of state tuition.
Posted on 11/8/16 at 7:13 am to Cdawg
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Alabamians are now just 43 percent of the student body
Alabama... soon to be the new SJWU of the west
Posted on 11/8/16 at 7:14 am to NYCAuburn
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I think they have maintained the same actual number of Alabamians, total enrollment has dramatically increased
That's correct.
They started the growth initiative when I was there but it didn't really take off until Saban arrived and the football brand propelled it along. In terms of the value he brings to UA as a whole, Saban is arguably significantly underpaid.
Posted on 11/8/16 at 7:16 am to Cdawg
The huge amount of out of state kids waters down the authentic culture you get from the school. im an out of state student myself, but I don't want to go to school somewhere where I'll hardly meet anybody who actually lives and breathes the place I'm in. I'm glad that the extreme majority of people I have met st college are from long lines of Louisiana families who have shown me the time of my life here.
Whenever I visit my friends and family at WVU, everyone I meet that they hang out with isn't even from WV, so the experience I get while I'm there is a far cry from the one I'd get if I actually met people who grew up in the culture.
Whenever I visit my friends and family at WVU, everyone I meet that they hang out with isn't even from WV, so the experience I get while I'm there is a far cry from the one I'd get if I actually met people who grew up in the culture.
Posted on 11/8/16 at 7:16 am to Ramblin Wreck
Average IQ and SAT scores must be trending up as a result.
Posted on 11/8/16 at 7:18 am to Ramblin Wreck
I visited Tuscaloosa recently, and I can attest that the place is changing rapidly. So much money coming in from the outside. New condos, shops, restaurants are going up monthly. Tuscaloosa is booming, and UA's strategy is working. It won't be long before they start climbing up the USN&WR rankings.
LSU, meanwhile, is taking the opposite approach. SAD.
LSU, meanwhile, is taking the opposite approach. SAD.
Posted on 11/8/16 at 7:21 am to Pride of Georgia
quote:They are.
Average SAT scores must be trending up as a result.
Posted on 11/8/16 at 7:22 am to Ramblin Wreck
I have mixed feelings on this. My undergraduate degree is from AU, and currently in the UA system for grad school. I typically want both schools to excel for the betterment of the state. I just don't want the board to take on too many liabilities for the sake of growth. But I do hope the grads from both schools migrate to Bham post graduation help the state, and keep tax dollars here.
Posted on 11/8/16 at 7:23 am to jlovel7
Don't visit a college for the local culture.
Posted on 11/8/16 at 7:24 am to AUCE05
quote:A large portion of the OOS students at UA will leave the state after graduation, but it increases the odds that some of them will stay.
But I do hope the grads from both schools migrate to Bham post graduation help the state, and keep tax dollars here.
Posted on 11/8/16 at 7:25 am to Ramblin Wreck
I'm happy that South Carolina is doing what it is doing ... Alabama alumni should feel the same way about what they are doing.
1 - It leaves us less beholding to the state government powers that be, from a financial standpoint, and allows us to be more autonomous with our fundraising efforts and how we spend our money.
2 - It builds the talent pool in state. A lot of these kids will end up staying here, while others will move on and do well and donate their fair share when the time comes.
3 - It teaches yankee kids that all the negative bullshite they've heard their entire lives about the south, is just that, negative bullshite.
1 - It leaves us less beholding to the state government powers that be, from a financial standpoint, and allows us to be more autonomous with our fundraising efforts and how we spend our money.
2 - It builds the talent pool in state. A lot of these kids will end up staying here, while others will move on and do well and donate their fair share when the time comes.
3 - It teaches yankee kids that all the negative bullshite they've heard their entire lives about the south, is just that, negative bullshite.
Posted on 11/8/16 at 7:25 am to AUCE05
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But I do hope the grads from both schools migrate to Bham post graduation help the state, and keep tax dollars here.
That would be ideal for the State's economy, and Birmingham will clearly benefit from UA's growth to a certain extent.
But the flip side is that becoming an international R1 powerhouse means creating a silo economy that doesn't necessarily benefit the rest of the state ... money comes in with the students, but a lot of the talent will leave for places like Atlanta, Houston, New Orleans, New York, Chicago, and LA.
That's the way it is in a lot of similar places around the country like Ann Arbor, MI or Charlottesville, VA. The elite schools are all doing it.
Posted on 11/8/16 at 7:29 am to Ramblin Wreck
Ole Miss is mostly out of state as well and has been for a few years I believe.
More money and a biggerumni footprint are good for the school.
More money and a biggerumni footprint are good for the school.
Posted on 11/8/16 at 7:29 am to NYCAuburn
2120 SAT gets you an interview for Columbia and admitted into Berkeley?
Posted on 11/8/16 at 7:30 am to AUCE05
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But I do hope the grads from both schools migrate to Bham post graduation help the state, and keep tax dollars here.
Good luck with that. Majoring in TCF and set to graduate in May and more than half of the students in my classes are going back home after graduation. If they're not going back home, they're getting jobs and internships at more booming economies (Nashville for example).
Posted on 11/8/16 at 7:30 am to TxTiger82
You also have to expand your facilities to accommodate the influx of bodies, which could bite you if your enrollment dips. Stanford, etc keeps enrollment down, and they have excess funds for research, etc. The problem with us is both state schools have tiny endowments, which puts us behind the curve.
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