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The End: LSU - Florida
Posted on 10/7/16 at 9:48 am
Posted on 10/7/16 at 9:48 am
There are a lot of stupid theories and really ridiculous arguments going around. The answers are simple if you work in the business sector or in a corporate environment. I'm going to spell it out for you.
Money, it's the bottom line and Jeremy Foley played his hand absolutely perfectly, brilliant even.
The only outcomes that were ever an option for Foley were Saturday in Gainesville, reschedule, or no game. Anything else, was not financially viable. The first option is obvious, the second would transfer a financial loss from Florida to LSU, the third means the other options fell through and is no further detriment to Florida(possibly an advantage).
Once the SEC allowed the decision to be delayed Wednesday, Foley controlled the situation.
Notable Points:
1. Florida is not scared to play. I am sure they would love to.
2. The SEC is not plotting against LSU. It is just incompetent and looks very weak right now.
3. Jeremy Foley outmaneuvered the SEC and out PRd the LSU administration.
4. The game was never going to happen anywhere but Saturday in Gainesville, anything else is a significant financial loss for Florida.
5. "Player safety" was always a powerful fallback in Foley's pocket. There's absolutely no way anyone can challenge him.
So there you have it, if you disagree, go take a nap or maybe play with your legos. I really hope LSU takes the financial loss and we get this thing figured out for a reschedule. I think moving the A&M game to the weekend is paramount to that decision.
Money, it's the bottom line and Jeremy Foley played his hand absolutely perfectly, brilliant even.
The only outcomes that were ever an option for Foley were Saturday in Gainesville, reschedule, or no game. Anything else, was not financially viable. The first option is obvious, the second would transfer a financial loss from Florida to LSU, the third means the other options fell through and is no further detriment to Florida(possibly an advantage).
Once the SEC allowed the decision to be delayed Wednesday, Foley controlled the situation.
Notable Points:
1. Florida is not scared to play. I am sure they would love to.
2. The SEC is not plotting against LSU. It is just incompetent and looks very weak right now.
3. Jeremy Foley outmaneuvered the SEC and out PRd the LSU administration.
4. The game was never going to happen anywhere but Saturday in Gainesville, anything else is a significant financial loss for Florida.
5. "Player safety" was always a powerful fallback in Foley's pocket. There's absolutely no way anyone can challenge him.
So there you have it, if you disagree, go take a nap or maybe play with your legos. I really hope LSU takes the financial loss and we get this thing figured out for a reschedule. I think moving the A&M game to the weekend is paramount to that decision.
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Posted on 10/7/16 at 9:50 am to Capo Losi
I'm glad some LSU fans understand negotiating.
Foley read the Art of the Deal
Foley read the Art of the Deal
Posted on 10/7/16 at 9:50 am to Capo Losi
Two points:
This is certainly not what was portrayed this week....they made every attempt to not play despite numerous viable and easily implemented backup plans from LSU.
Would this have applied had the game been in BR? I mean why not move it to BR?
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1. Florida is not scared to play. I am sure they would love to.
This is certainly not what was portrayed this week....they made every attempt to not play despite numerous viable and easily implemented backup plans from LSU.
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5. "Player safety" was always a powerful fallback in Foley's pocket. There's absolutely no way anyone can challenge him.
Would this have applied had the game been in BR? I mean why not move it to BR?
Posted on 10/7/16 at 9:51 am to Capo Losi
Florida has the scareds. They are a disgrace to the SEC.
Posted on 10/7/16 at 9:51 am to Capo Losi
That's all bullshite. Foley and Mac are afraid of Guice and Fournette
Posted on 10/7/16 at 9:52 am to Capo Losi
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Capo Losi
Agree on all points
Posted on 10/7/16 at 9:53 am to Capo Losi
That's when the NEUTRAL COMISSIONER should have stepped in and said, "this game is being played. Make it happen."
Posted on 10/7/16 at 9:55 am to Capo Losi
See this is a rational discussion of the situation. Kudos.
Posted on 10/7/16 at 9:56 am to Capo Losi
I agree. 
Posted on 10/7/16 at 10:01 am to Capo Losi
It's always about money. If we reschedule, it has to be in Gainesville. Why would UF give up a huge payday? People have to eat. But, another point is the liability, which is very real. Let's say they move it to Atlanta, BR, etc., during a coastal evacuation order. Some idiot drives in a ditch and dies wearing a Gator tshirt. His family sues the school and the state that he was rushing to get to LA to see the Gator game. Somebody has a heart attack laying on their couch. They are going to attribute it to the stress from the storm (even though he was eating 5 lbs of cheetohs every day) and he just so happen to be wearing a Gator or LSU shirt so the schools are responsible.
Then there's the insensitivity angle. No one knows the severity of a hurricane. You end up having a lot of people killed or displaced, where folks are trying to find shelters, especially moving towards Gainesville and you're playing a game??? Why do you think LSU postponed N.Texas during Katrina? You could have still played the game but it would have looked real bad with evacuees laying across the campus.
Then there's the insensitivity angle. No one knows the severity of a hurricane. You end up having a lot of people killed or displaced, where folks are trying to find shelters, especially moving towards Gainesville and you're playing a game??? Why do you think LSU postponed N.Texas during Katrina? You could have still played the game but it would have looked real bad with evacuees laying across the campus.
Posted on 10/7/16 at 10:02 am to Capo Losi
The big point you fail to mention in your so well thought out analysis is that every other school presented with this situation has bit the bullet and moved the game.
Florida is the outlier here, and it makes them look awfully petty.
Florida is the outlier here, and it makes them look awfully petty.
Posted on 10/7/16 at 10:07 am to Capo Losi
You are mostly correct, except:
1) Florida's move effectively removed LSU from the conference title hunt while placing themselves in a more advantageous position.
2) If the game is rescheduled for Nov. 19th, LSU faces a brutal away schedule, along with $5 million revenue loss, along with a home game loss for the second year in a row.
3) If the game is reschedule for October 29, LSU loses their bye week before Alabama.
I can absolutely assure you that if you replaced "LSU" with "Alabama" then the SEC office would never have allowed Florida to manipulate the situation so greatly in their favor. Never.
If you think otherwise I'd suggest breaking out the legos - maybe even milk and cookies.
1) Florida's move effectively removed LSU from the conference title hunt while placing themselves in a more advantageous position.
2) If the game is rescheduled for Nov. 19th, LSU faces a brutal away schedule, along with $5 million revenue loss, along with a home game loss for the second year in a row.
3) If the game is reschedule for October 29, LSU loses their bye week before Alabama.
I can absolutely assure you that if you replaced "LSU" with "Alabama" then the SEC office would never have allowed Florida to manipulate the situation so greatly in their favor. Never.
If you think otherwise I'd suggest breaking out the legos - maybe even milk and cookies.
Posted on 10/7/16 at 10:18 am to Capo Losi
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The game was never going to happen anywhere but Saturday in Gainesville, anything else is a significant financial loss for Florida.
This is obvious, however, sometimes things happen and you need to take responsibility.
Do you think USC wanted to move their game to Baton Rouge last year? Do you think LSU wanted to move the ASU game to Tempe after Katrina?
The Florida Athletic Department definitely won this battle over an inept LSU administration but it doesn't change the fact that it's a chicken shite move.
Posted on 10/7/16 at 10:20 am to Capo Losi
So if next year lsu loses both its starting and back up quarterback for 1 week each which is the specifically the Florida game, and someone calls in a Bomb threat For the game then lsu can cancel.
Posted on 10/7/16 at 11:00 am to Capo Losi
Reasonable.
Florida has no desire to play the game. It benefits them greatly to skip it.
Florida has no desire to play the game. It benefits them greatly to skip it.
Posted on 10/7/16 at 11:05 am to Capo Losi
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The first option is obvious, the second would transfer a financial loss from Florida to LSU, the third means the other options fell through and is no further detriment to Florida(possibly an advantage).
Your post is spot on, but I think you give too little weight to that last part.
Posted on 10/7/16 at 11:16 am to Capo Losi
Uforfeit alters suck 
Posted on 10/7/16 at 11:16 am to Capo Losi
I am playing that tasty track from The Doors right now, out of respect for this thread.
Posted on 10/7/16 at 11:28 am to Capo Losi
Hey, Genius -
1. UF didn't 'negotiate' anything. They had the home game and simply used that leverage which was available to no other party in a duplicitous, self-serving strategy.
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1. UF didn't 'negotiate' anything. They had the home game and simply used that leverage which was available to no other party in a duplicitous, self-serving strategy.
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quote:You appear to be celebrating a zero sum outcome in your imagined negotiation for very the institution you purport to support. If you are so thrilled by your little fantasy and think UF is so great, why not just put on a fresh pair of jorts and join them? You wouldn't be missed here...
I really hope LSU takes the financial loss
Posted on 10/7/16 at 12:30 pm to Capo Losi
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Florida is not scared to play. I am sure they would love to.
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