re: Kentucky claims 1950 football national championship

I know. But that isn't how it worked back in 1950.

Lets give Mizzou the 2007 title. After all we finished the regular season ranked #1. (CCG are not regular season since berths are earned through regular season records).

Nope, not how it works. All national champions must win by the rules of the day, however arbitrary they are.

FWAA and NFF were respectable selectors, but never held the same weight. Both selectors never conducted weekly polls. They just named a champion at the end. AP and UPI conducted weekly polls. The majority of the college football world only goes by AP and UPI/Coaches. That's a given fact.

1958 National Champions: LSU with 15 selectors including the AP and UPI.

Iowa doesn't claim the title, but they were named by only 1 selector, the newly formed FWAA as they deemed their Rose Bowl win over #16 California to me bore impressive, yet LSU shutout #12 Clemson in the Sugar Bowl.

LSU (11-0-0); Iowa (8-1-1)

Tell me how the FWAA is a valid selector?

You are an Alabama fan. I am surprised you don't know more about 1961. Alabama went (11-0-0) en route to an AP and UPI national championship. To me, and many others, Alabama is the sole champion. But don't tell Ohio State that.

Ohio State (8-0-1) was also selected as national champion by the FWAA.

For those above reasons, the FWAA doesn't hold as much weight as the AP and UPI/Coaches.

Alabama went from 6 to 11 in one year, 1982. What is funny is they get mad if others do it.



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Texas A&M went from 1 to 3 championships overnight. Every player and coach on their two fake national championship teams were deceased by the time they claimed it from a poll that came out 70 years after those two seasons.

Both claims are ridiculous.

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I have a hard time caring if Texas A&M claims titles to 1919 and 1927. The 1919 A&M team deserves some serious respect, not giving up any points all season.

1927 is a bit more dubious, but again - who cares?

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Alabama went from 6 to 11 in one year, 1982.
Kind of. They were celebrated as champions in their day. For some reason, we never really kept an official count until Bryant's era.

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Most AU fans just copy and paste some very weak argument, using touting the phrase, "using Alabama's math" - never mind that they're very wrong.

Alabama's "math" has a logic to it. Anything after 1950 is only a major poll selector (AP, UPI, then BCS, then Playoffs). Prior to that they chose very specific selectors, not just any selector in the universe.

See, if you follow AU logic, using "Alabama" math, Alabama doesn't claim all their potential titles.

See, the NCAA recognizes 5 additional titles for Alabama that the school does NOT claim - 1945, 1962, 1966, 1975 & 1977. That includes two teams with perfect records (45 & 66).

If memory serves, if you count all potential selectors, Alabama could claim well over 20, somewhere in the realm of 25-30.

To be fair, we've never had to rig an internet poll to be crowned the People's National Champions and then have a parade with tractors. So, you know... that's one up on us that AU's got.

I'm not mad at a team we own.

3-1 since desegregation.

Honestly, its been 30 years since we even beat ku by 31 points...

I still respect you guys more than Vandy, even though they have actually beaten us twice

When did you guys integrate? Mizzou did it in 1958

Hvll, I think everybody in the Big 8 had integrated before '67. Old sec was behind

That's not what I mean by desegregation. I am talking about forced desegregation of All college teams. Anything before that is not modern CFB.