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re: UK's entire roster will submit their names for the NBA Draft
Posted on 3/23/16 at 10:26 pm to Kentucker
Posted on 3/23/16 at 10:26 pm to Kentucker
quote:he probably shouldnt have allowed the program to get to a place were kids would put the program in jeopardy. or he should have known something was happening before it got too far. no youre right, he has no blame whatsoever in two different places getting hit with violations
So he shouldn't have recruited Camby and Rose?
This post was edited on 3/23/16 at 10:27 pm
Posted on 3/23/16 at 10:27 pm to Kentucker
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I doubt that many recruiters are blessed with the skill of clairvoyance.
No but it is very ignorant to say he had no control over what happened. It is not one single persons fault but it is the coaches job to stop shite like that even if its not fair. Every coach would take heat in his shoes regardless of the name.
Posted on 3/23/16 at 10:28 pm to WildcatMike
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The incoming class is plain arse nasty.
That would rival Davis and Co.
Posted on 3/23/16 at 10:38 pm to WestCoastAg
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he probably shouldnt have allowed the program to get to a place were kids would put the program in jeopardy
So, Duke Coach Mike Krezewski should have known that one of his players accepted $2000 in cash from an AAU coach while in high school and that another from the ghetto received a $100,000 "loan" to purchase jewelry while playing for Duke?
Of course, nothing happened to Duke because Coach K said he didn't know about the violations. Just checking whether your morals apply generally or just to Coach Cal.
This post was edited on 3/23/16 at 10:39 pm
Posted on 3/23/16 at 10:40 pm to rockiee
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No but it is very ignorant to say he had no control over what happened.
See above post.
Posted on 3/23/16 at 10:58 pm to Kentucker
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That would rival Davis and Co.
it's a great class but it's not that calibur. in that class you had the 2 best players in the country, Davis and MKG. While you have all 5 stars, Duke has the two best players in the country, Giles and Tatum. Bam isn't a one and done type player and if Monk is actually 6'4 than I have a 12 inch cock lol and i don't have a 12 inch coke. he's closer to 6'2 and a half / 6'3 and has a 6'6 and there has never been a 6'3 shooting guard one and done.
you'll be good but it's not as good as that class. hell no lol.
Posted on 3/23/16 at 11:15 pm to Kentucker
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See above post.
What about it? If what you said is actually true then Coach K is responsible as well. You won't find a double standard here. I already mentioned that the name is a non factor. I actually think Coach Cal is a great coach but you are being very bias here.
Posted on 3/23/16 at 11:24 pm to rockiee
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I actually think Coach Cal is a great coach but you are being very bias here.
Well, duh. Like no Razorback fan has ever been biased?
Posted on 3/23/16 at 11:36 pm to Kentucker
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Well, duh. Like no Razorback fan has ever been biased?
Yes, I'm sure in there have been a few razorback fans that have been bias in the past and present. I'm glad you at least realize you are though. Next step is to actually admit he holds some, even if it is partial, fault in the previous situations at UMass and Memphis. It isn't some crazy idea if you are being honest with yourself.
This post was edited on 3/23/16 at 11:38 pm
Posted on 3/23/16 at 11:41 pm to BluegrassBelle
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UK has 8 in its total history and you expected Cal to win one every single year?
UK didn't always recruit the top 5 players in every class.
And you're just being dumb. There's a big difference between "every year" and "more than 1."
This post was edited on 3/23/16 at 11:42 pm
Posted on 3/24/16 at 12:01 am to MeatPants
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This years team had veterans. Lee, poythress, ulis to a degree. Mixed with high recruits. He didn't do as well with this team. Coach cal could never do what Wisconsin does to win. But that isn't a criticism. He's a heckuva a coach that just gets loads of young talent
Some other people do it different
Look I'm not a UK fan by any means but the man took UMASS and Memphis to national championships
he was 193-71 at UMASS and had a 35-2 final four season.
He won 38 games in a single season at Memphis making him the winningest coach in a single season in ncaa history.He's still the winningest coach in Memphis history. He went 252-69 while there.
The man can flat out coach and what he's doing now is simply adapting to what the rules allow. I think if the rules shifted he'd do just fine since he's done it in the past.
This post was edited on 3/24/16 at 12:03 am
Posted on 3/24/16 at 3:09 am to Kentucker
quote:kind of seems like more duke getting away with everything more than anything else. sorry the notion that shady shite has happened basically everywhere cal has gone and he 100% deserves some of the blame gets you so upset
Of course, nothing happened to Duke because Coach K said he didn't know about the violations. Just checking whether your morals apply generally or just to Coach Cal.
Posted on 3/24/16 at 3:45 am to WestCoastAg
What shady shite has he done at Kentucky. I don't see any of you lambasting Dean Smith, Coach K, Jim Boeheim or Rick Pitino yet Coach Cal and Rupp are routinely open season.
This post was edited on 3/24/16 at 3:50 am
Posted on 3/24/16 at 4:18 am to UKWildcats
quote:first off at saying people dont lambast pitino and second, at wanting to point fingers elsewhere instead of just accepting that at cals previous stops, he allowed violations to come under his watch. whether or not he knew doesnt make any difference.
I don't see any of you lambasting Dean Smith, Coach K, Jim Boeheim or Rick Pitino yet Coach Cal and Rupp are routinely open season.
Posted on 3/24/16 at 5:28 am to WestCoastAg
Fair enough. The same could be said for Jim Boeheim and the academic xrap. Ultimately the buck stops with him.
Why we get pissed off is how Cal is made out to be some sleaze ball while these other guys who have overseen much more flagrant violations and cheating WITH knowledge get a pass. Corey Magette openly took money at Duke and admitted it and no one says shite about it and Coach K is a saint. Dean Smith oversaw the paying of side money to his poor players and the beginning of the systemic academic fraud that continued under Doherty and Williams and no one says shite about Dean.
Marcus Camby took money on his own. Cal helped turn him in for it. What the frick else do you want the guy to do?
Derrick Rose apparently falsified his SAT scores. The NCAA green light him AND MADE NO MENTION OF POSSIBLE IMPROPRIETY until after that season was over. Cal had absolutely zero reason not to play him. He and Memphis had zero idea there was any issues until after the fact. Again, what the frick else do you want the guy to do?
Why we get pissed off is how Cal is made out to be some sleaze ball while these other guys who have overseen much more flagrant violations and cheating WITH knowledge get a pass. Corey Magette openly took money at Duke and admitted it and no one says shite about it and Coach K is a saint. Dean Smith oversaw the paying of side money to his poor players and the beginning of the systemic academic fraud that continued under Doherty and Williams and no one says shite about Dean.
Marcus Camby took money on his own. Cal helped turn him in for it. What the frick else do you want the guy to do?
Derrick Rose apparently falsified his SAT scores. The NCAA green light him AND MADE NO MENTION OF POSSIBLE IMPROPRIETY until after that season was over. Cal had absolutely zero reason not to play him. He and Memphis had zero idea there was any issues until after the fact. Again, what the frick else do you want the guy to do?
quote:It does in how he's portrayed. No one is saying he shouldn't be held responsible. He was and is. The same goes for the last aforementioned coaches. Even if Pitino really had no idea about what's happened at Louisville, there is no way he shouldn't get the axe for it. Again, it's this notion that Cal is some dirty coach which is patently false. The bottom line is he doesn't butter up the media because he doesn't have to. He goes by his rules and a lot of these coaches and media guyd don't like it because he's successful at it. Well, tough shite I say.
whether or not he knew doesnt make any difference.
This post was edited on 3/24/16 at 5:32 am
Posted on 3/24/16 at 5:44 am to UKWildcats
Some programs are just blessed by the media and NCAA as "untouchables"
Wooden with Papa Sam had a decade of unprecedented success and no sanctions
UNCheats started they scandal under Dean Smith and has become the worst cheating scandal in NCAA history
Duke player admits under oath before a grand jury about taking money yet the banner still hangs at Duke, The jewelry issue should have cost that 2nd banner too,
Wooden with Papa Sam had a decade of unprecedented success and no sanctions
UNCheats started they scandal under Dean Smith and has become the worst cheating scandal in NCAA history
Duke player admits under oath before a grand jury about taking money yet the banner still hangs at Duke, The jewelry issue should have cost that 2nd banner too,
Posted on 3/24/16 at 6:32 am to Cheese Grits
Preaching to the choir. I just get so sick and tired of hearing this same rehashed B.S. from uninformed outsiders who regurgitate the same banal taking points fed to them by the media. All it does is make it patently obvious they haven't ever been interested in doing any actual research into the issues. It's always we're some dirty scum sacking program and UNC, Duke, UCLA are saints. What a crock and an absurd double standard. If you don't like us, just say so. But don't say it's because these other programs comply to some higher standard.....because they don't.
This post was edited on 3/24/16 at 6:34 am
Posted on 3/24/16 at 6:36 am to Cheese Grits
He knew
These guys know what's going on. It was only a matter of time before smu and Larry brown were kicked out of the tournament
These guys know what's going on. It was only a matter of time before smu and Larry brown were kicked out of the tournament
Posted on 3/24/16 at 8:23 am to c on z
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Walk-ons putting their name down for the draft?
Yeah what a gimmick
Posted on 3/24/16 at 8:27 am to UKWildcats
Aaaaaand UK will still have a better season than UF next year
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