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Has the HUNH/spread gone the way of fun & gun already?
Posted on 11/10/15 at 7:47 am
Posted on 11/10/15 at 7:47 am
Last year people were stating that the game had passed the likes of Saban by. Today, I barely hear anything about the HUNH/spread offenses. Are they ineffective, teams have figured them out or do they just require a superior player or player combo to really succeed?
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Posted on 11/10/15 at 7:49 am to nc14
REC check slowed them down to the midgets speed
Posted on 11/10/15 at 7:50 am to nc14
Not many teams in the SEC run the HU anymore. Bama still utilizes the jet sweep aspect of the spread, and multiple WRs, but the true spread never really took off in the SEC. TAMU failed with it. Seems the shotgun power run is the offense of choice, with hurry up at selective times.
This post was edited on 11/10/15 at 7:56 am
Posted on 11/10/15 at 7:50 am to nc14
I think it can still be effective. You just have to have the right people in place. Most of the teams that have thrived off of this type of offense are down talent-wise, especially at the QB position.
Posted on 11/10/15 at 7:56 am to nc14
Tennessee's HUNH/power running spread gave Alabama's defense much more trouble than LSU's pro style offense with the best player in cfb. The misdirection with Dobbs plus the ability to get Hurd and Kamara in space kept Alabama on their heels more often than normal.
This post was edited on 11/10/15 at 7:57 am
Posted on 11/10/15 at 7:57 am to nc14
Who is really running a pro-style offense in the SEC right now? Bama, LSU, UGA, Arkansas? UF too? Even those teams run some aspects of the HU/Spread.
And no you don't need superior athletes to be successful. I think those offenses developed to attempt to neutralize the talent gap. You do need good athletes, but they don't necessarily have to be prototypical.
And no you don't need superior athletes to be successful. I think those offenses developed to attempt to neutralize the talent gap. You do need good athletes, but they don't necessarily have to be prototypical.
This post was edited on 11/10/15 at 8:04 am
Posted on 11/10/15 at 8:14 am to nc14
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Last year people were stating that the game had passed the likes of Saban by. Today, I barely hear anything about the HUNH/spread offenses. Are they ineffective, teams have figured them out or do they just require a superior player or player combo to really succeed?
All offenses and defenses require superior players... Alabama gets the best players every year. Trying to beat Alabama at their own game is foolish, LSU does it best and has lost 5 in a row. Ole Miss has beaten Bama two times in a row. The two years Auburn made the NC game it was not for having superior players.
Posted on 11/10/15 at 8:19 am to nc14
Which coach said that all offenses will get caught up to given a little time?
Posted on 11/10/15 at 8:53 am to nc14
The HUNH relies on getting defenses in a personnel disadvantage and then snapping the ball without giving them a chance to make substitutions.
People have started recruiting hybrid type front seven players that can better defend the perimeter. This has made the need for substitution less of an issue and has made the chief element of the HUNH less effective.
People have started recruiting hybrid type front seven players that can better defend the perimeter. This has made the need for substitution less of an issue and has made the chief element of the HUNH less effective.
Posted on 11/10/15 at 8:55 am to nc14
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Last year people were stating that the game had passed the likes of Saban by. Today, I barely hear anything about the HUNH/spread offenses. Are they ineffective, teams have figured them out or do they just require a superior player or player combo to really succeed?
Do you even watch football?
Posted on 11/10/15 at 8:55 am to nc14
Teams with less talant run the spread. Teams like Alabama, UGA, and LSU run a pro style.
Posted on 11/10/15 at 9:15 am to nc14
Much like the fun n gun, the aspects of the HUNU are being incorporated into other offenses. Bama barely huddles now.
Btw, Bama has been a spread team for a while. They do a lot of power runs out of it, but they have been doing one back since Mac was their OC. Only LSU runs the classic two back pro style power offense.
Btw, Bama has been a spread team for a while. They do a lot of power runs out of it, but they have been doing one back since Mac was their OC. Only LSU runs the classic two back pro style power offense.
Posted on 11/10/15 at 9:32 am to nc14
Not really.
The Fun N Gun was an offense that Spurrier installed and basically had 2 routes.
A hi-low- where you have twins to one side and one runs a 15 yd out and the other runs a 5 yd out and you read the corner.
The fade- He had Quezzy Green, Reidel, Ike and those guys who were just better athletes. Danny Wuerffel won a heisman throwing fades. When Spurrier got to South Carolina he had to dump these plays due to not having superior athletes AND the Sec had figured out how to defend it anyway by playing zone/man combo D. Man on outside, zone across the middle.
The HUNH has been used since the old Sam Wyche Bengal days.
The Fun N Gun was an offense that Spurrier installed and basically had 2 routes.
A hi-low- where you have twins to one side and one runs a 15 yd out and the other runs a 5 yd out and you read the corner.
The fade- He had Quezzy Green, Reidel, Ike and those guys who were just better athletes. Danny Wuerffel won a heisman throwing fades. When Spurrier got to South Carolina he had to dump these plays due to not having superior athletes AND the Sec had figured out how to defend it anyway by playing zone/man combo D. Man on outside, zone across the middle.
The HUNH has been used since the old Sam Wyche Bengal days.
Posted on 11/10/15 at 9:58 am to nc14
It's funny that 'pro-style offense' has meant the same thing since 1999. Teams in the NFL haven't had pro-style offenses in awhile.
Posted on 11/10/15 at 12:19 pm to nc14
When Nick Marshall left, the HUNH died. 
This post was edited on 11/10/15 at 12:23 pm
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