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re: Fox Sports: Longhorns need A&M
Posted on 4/15/15 at 4:38 pm to Spirit Of Aggieland
Posted on 4/15/15 at 4:38 pm to Spirit Of Aggieland
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All you have to do is pay attention to the longhorn athletic department... It's not had positive results lately
You're out of the loop.
Errybody testing positive at UT these days.
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Posted on 4/15/15 at 4:39 pm to Spindicus Lofrus
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Does finishing third in the division of your conference make you an "it" team.
If that division is in the SEC, and therefore that also means a top five finish, then yes.
What Texas fans miss is not all Power 5 wins are the same. A tree that falls in the forest is heard by no one, just like any game that ends up on the LHN or Fox Sports One.
Posted on 4/15/15 at 4:40 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
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Errybody testing positive at UT these days.
Posted on 4/15/15 at 4:40 pm to DFWAggie09
Sorry you're not making any sense. You're claiming aTm as more relevant, when they aren't. Then you proceed to compare one game for one team to a decade, or more, to another.
Posted on 4/15/15 at 4:42 pm to cardboardboxer
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A tree that falls in the forest is heard by no one, just like any game that ends up on the LHN or Fox Sports One.
Posted on 4/15/15 at 4:45 pm to Tornado Alley
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However, in no way does this detract from the extreme examples of the Aggie subset of the SEC Lil' Bro complex exhibited in this thread.
They are almost as bad as Auburn fans......
...but can't say I blame them for wanting to see Texas have to sleep in the bed they made.
Posted on 4/15/15 at 4:45 pm to GeauxToBed
They played Ohio St. and lost.
So in the BCS/NY6 bowl games the records are:
Texas: 3-1
TCU: 2-1
A&M: 0-1
Baylor: 0-2
So in the BCS/NY6 bowl games the records are:
Texas: 3-1
TCU: 2-1
A&M: 0-1
Baylor: 0-2
Posted on 4/15/15 at 4:47 pm to 14&Counting
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They are almost as bad as Auburn fans......
...but can't say I blame them for wanting to see Texas have to sleep in the bed they made.
A fair criticism but not a modern one. The Aggies coming out today do not have a little brother complex. The difference between Auburn and A&M is the size and strength of A&M and the money now going into the school, academically and athletically. Auburn may not be able to get over that hump but A&M has and will continue to draw even or pass texas.
Posted on 4/15/15 at 4:48 pm to RB10
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aTm fans are the only ones who think aTm is more relevant than TCU in the last 10 years. Or Baylor in the last 5.
I'm going to have to disagree with you there. If either of those teams were more relevant than A&M, we'd have extended an invite to them to join the SEC instead of the aggies.
Posted on 4/15/15 at 4:50 pm to RB10
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You're claiming aTm as more relevant, when they aren't. Then you proceed to compare one game for one team to a decade, or more, to another.
Incorrect. I'm claiming that no amount of TCU/Baylor wins is going to change the fact that A&M/Texas are the only programs in the state that matter. Your idea of "relevance" has nothing to do with how the programs are perceived within in the state as well as nationally for that matter. See the SEC invite.
And furthering my original point, someone outside of the Texas schools(i.e., you) uses that exact argument I'm referencing to try and discredit A&M.
This post was edited on 4/15/15 at 4:52 pm
Posted on 4/15/15 at 4:51 pm to DFWAggie09
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All of those points mean nothing when it comes to shaping the landscape of CFB in the state.
I disagree. It may not mean a whole lot when it comes to recruiting in the state, but it does in the way the programs are received by the rest of the nation. I've noticed Baylor and TCU a lot more over the last few years, and even if GT doesn't use their OB win to future success, it doesn't mean it isn't a worthwhile accomplishment.
Posted on 4/15/15 at 4:52 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
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I'm going to have to disagree with you there. If either of those teams were more relevant than A&M, we'd have extended an invite to them to join the SEC instead of the aggies.
There is a big difference between value, relevance, exposure and respect.
But this is the rant, where nuance is a four letter word.
Posted on 4/15/15 at 4:53 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
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I'm going to have to disagree with you there. If either of those teams were more relevant than A&M, we'd have extended an invite to them to join the SEC instead of the aggies.
As an athletic program and a university, absolutely. Their invite had much more to do with the university than the football program.
As a football program, which is what he stated and what I was responding to, aTm is no more relevant than either Baylor or TCU right now.
Posted on 4/15/15 at 4:54 pm to LegacyAggie
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The move to the SEC was very symbolic of Texas A&M's growth as an institution.
I think this is the heart of the matter. A&M views its move to the SEC this way. If you are in any other conference, you would view it as a good football move. But kind of weird social/academic move. Texas was in the Confederacy but most folks along and West of 35 wouldn't see it as anything other than an attempt to get out of Texas' shadow and make a solid and bold football move. "Growth as an institution." That seems a bit much to most. You changed athletic conference. Like Colorado. Like Utah. Like West Virginia. It happens. Elevating it to more than that seems a bit dramatic. But not surprising for Aggies.
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We had the political strength to not be suppressed and the guts to finally leave the texas realm of control. They ruled this state with an iron fist for decades, they really did.
You had a little man with a big bow tie who made an intelligent move. You have an Aggie who was governor. Other than that, not much has changed, other than A&M growing in size.
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But we grew up and like Pat Dye once told Bear, "We aren't afraid of you anymore." Change is tough to accept, even for some Aggies. But we have spent over 500 million on faciliites and our stadium to ensure that we are intent on having long term success. Sumlin and his tenure have reflected a lot of those growing pains. Mostly disappointing seasons if I'm being honest but you can't objectively look at the power and potential for Texas A&M and not realize this is a program that can compete year in and out for national titles with the right people at the helm. Let the PR guys spin it however they want, we are coming. Slowly but surely.
Stanford has been relevant (I'd say more relevant) in about the same time frame that the Aggies claim they have been relevant. Actual BCS bowls. That was due to a great coach and a great quarterback.
And yes, there is no reason that the program can't compete for national titles with the right people. You can say that about 50% of the teams in all of the conferences.
I think the feeling on both sides, at least the bulletin board poster, is that neither side cares if they play each other again. Not sure why anyone feels it is important to write about this either.
Odd that the coaches, especially Strong, felt compelled to say they wanted the rivalry to resume. Strong especially should be focused on other things.
Posted on 4/15/15 at 4:55 pm to Spindicus Lofrus
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Does finishing third in the division of your conference make you an "it" team. A&M hasn't beaten a ranked team at home since joining the SEC. What the hell is this article about?!?
When that division is the SEC West? Yes.
For decades Texas has been afraid to schedule SEC teams, now they're seeing the benefits of having Alabama, LSU, Auburn, et al on the schedule for A&M.
I mean OU's fine, but one, that's the only big game for Texas, and two, that game is looking more and more regionally limited. The best that game does for UT is keep more TX recruits from going to OU.
Posted on 4/15/15 at 4:55 pm to LegacyAggie
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But this is not your grand dad's Texas A&M. It's no longer 3:1 in terms of enrollment
A&M won its only title, and had its best success, when it was grand dad's Texas A&M and there was the 3:1 ratio of enrollment.
Posted on 4/15/15 at 4:56 pm to DFWAggie09
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Incorrect. I'm claiming that no amount of TCU/Baylor wins is going to change the fact that A&M/Texas are the only programs in the state that matter. Your idea of "relevance" has nothing to do with how the programs are perceived within in the state as well as nationally for that matter. See the SEC invite.
You can say this as many times as you want, but it isn't going to make it true. As a football program, aTm is no more relevant than Baylor or TCU.
Once again, aTm's SEC invite had very little to do with the football program and much more
To do with the AD, as a whole, and the university itself.
Posted on 4/15/15 at 4:58 pm to LegacyAggie
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The Aggies coming out today do not have a little brother complex.
Posted on 4/15/15 at 4:59 pm to RB10
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You can say this as many times as you want, but it isn't going to make it true. As a football program, aTm is no more relevant than Baylor or TCU.
Fair enough, we'll agree to disagree here.
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