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Should the NCAA let kids transfer without penalty if they can prove the a coach
Posted on 2/9/15 at 9:14 am
Posted on 2/9/15 at 9:14 am
Should the NCAA let kids transfer without penalty if they can prove the a coach lied to them?
For example, it they can show a text or something where the coach assured the kid that his position coach was not taking another job, but then the position coach took another job the week after signing day. Or if the coach promises that they won't take another running back commit, but they sign another RB commit.
On the one hand, it seems like a can of worms that would be impossible to police. On the other hand, we ought not reward coaches who lie to recruits, nor punish recruits who were lied to.
For example, it they can show a text or something where the coach assured the kid that his position coach was not taking another job, but then the position coach took another job the week after signing day. Or if the coach promises that they won't take another running back commit, but they sign another RB commit.
On the one hand, it seems like a can of worms that would be impossible to police. On the other hand, we ought not reward coaches who lie to recruits, nor punish recruits who were lied to.
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Posted on 2/9/15 at 9:15 am to Hugh McElroy
No.
Posted on 2/9/15 at 9:16 am to Hugh McElroy
You commit to a school not a coach. If recruits commited to a coach then that's their problem.
This post was edited on 2/9/15 at 9:25 am
Posted on 2/9/15 at 9:16 am to Hugh McElroy
Just need to remove the recruiting process all together and have combines and a draft.
Posted on 2/9/15 at 9:17 am to Hugh McElroy
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On the one hand, it seems like a can of worms that would be impossible to police
It doesn't just seem like that, it IS a can of worms that would be impossible to police.
Posted on 2/9/15 at 9:18 am to Hugh McElroy
I'd rather let them get out of their LOI's if this happens
Posted on 2/9/15 at 9:18 am to Hugh McElroy
wow. great idea. after I sign, the bidding can continue. if I can "prove" this, i'm gonna start or I head to the press.
Posted on 2/9/15 at 9:20 am to Hugh McElroy
Should be able to transfer without penalty regardless.
Posted on 2/9/15 at 9:25 am to Hugh McElroy
ya I agree cause loyalness hard come by pressent day i had ex do me same way shite aint no fun
Posted on 2/9/15 at 9:25 am to Hugh McElroy
If you want it to stop, make coaches sit out a year if they decide to "transfer" jobs to another FBS school.
Posted on 2/9/15 at 9:42 am to Hugh McElroy
How many threads do you intend to start regarding LSU's coach going to the 49'ers? Did you know that LSU's former special teams coach is on staff there? There ya go, that's at least 4 more threads you can start. 
Posted on 2/9/15 at 9:48 am to Hugh McElroy
NO!!! and this is from a guy whose coach quit the day before he left for school his freshman year... found out because my aunt read it in the transactions section of the usa today. i hated the interim head coach as well. still the anwer is a NO.
Posted on 2/9/15 at 9:55 am to Hugh McElroy
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Should the NCAA let kids transfer without penalty if they can prove the a coach lied to them?
Absolutely IF they based their decision on that coach being there when they arrive. Not hard to police at all. Get things in writing and it is clear cut.
Kids commit to coaches as well as schools. This is why coaches are assigned to recruit certain kids. Recruiting a kid is not a team effort with all coaches taking a role. Not the way it works.
If the HC at that school had any class and really had strong feelings for fairness and honesty, he would give that kid the option of being released from his LOI. Particularly if that kid had committed because of an assistant coach that then left as in the circumstance you are referring to.
Of course that would take a HC with core values and principals.
Posted on 2/9/15 at 9:56 am to Hugh McElroy
No, but true top recruits shouldn't sign and fax on the first day. That would solve the problem wouldn't it?
Posted on 2/9/15 at 9:57 am to Hugh McElroy
Schools love to point out it's a contract when kids try to back out of their LOIs, but watch them squirm when people start pointing out things like lack of consideration (coaches recruiting them and reason they chose school leave) and fraudulent inducement (coaches intentionally telling recruits they aren't leaving in order to get their LOI but knowing they are already on the way out the door) which generally can be used to nullify a contract.
It seems only in college sports can one party to a contract outright lie to the other side and then say too bad once the deal is signed and the lies revealed.
This is a major lawsuit waiting to happen the way the college recruitment game is trending.
It seems only in college sports can one party to a contract outright lie to the other side and then say too bad once the deal is signed and the lies revealed.
This is a major lawsuit waiting to happen the way the college recruitment game is trending.
Posted on 2/9/15 at 10:00 am to Hugh McElroy
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Should the NCAA let kids transfer without penalty if they can prove the a coach lied to them?
Was Sumlin's promise to Speedy that he wouldn't get arrested for pot, or that the cops would never bother him about it? Could be a gamechanger, would love to have him at corner next season.
Posted on 2/9/15 at 10:18 am to Hugh McElroy
There is a ton of STUPID in this thread. The idea of allowing kids to move around to other schools at will is so ridiculous that it's asinine to even discuss...can you imagine the Alabamas, Ohio States, Southern Cals, etc. of the world being able to get kids after these kids have shown their worth?...you talking about the "haves" and the "have not"! It would literally ruin college football as we know it.
Posted on 2/9/15 at 10:46 am to Hugh McElroy
Time for a salary cap in college.
Posted on 2/9/15 at 10:57 am to Hugh McElroy
Yes
Posted on 2/9/15 at 10:59 am to Hugh McElroy
i think there should be more transfer friendly rules for when a coach leaves right after singing day.
IDK if it should require lying, shite happens too, and it doesn't make the recruit less screwed.
IDK if it should require lying, shite happens too, and it doesn't make the recruit less screwed.
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