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re: JFF or Mariota

Posted on 12/6/14 at 7:42 am to
Posted by dagrippa
Saigon
Member since Nov 2004
11302 posts
Posted on 12/6/14 at 7:42 am to
quote:

I feel bad for melvin gordon that he's going to lose to some guy who is clearly not even close to his talent level. It really shouldn't even be a debate.


If it goes to a qb this year the award is even more bullshite than we already say.
Posted by sms151t
Polos, Porsches, Ponies..PROBATION
Member since Aug 2009
139860 posts
Posted on 12/6/14 at 8:20 am to
Mariota and it's not close
Has better arm, faster, makes better plays, just as "electric", and like JFF he's a winner on the field.
Posted by DBU
Member since Mar 2014
19059 posts
Posted on 12/6/14 at 8:32 am to
Im actually surprised by the bias in most of these responses. Mariota>JFF. Bigger, faster, better arm, makes better decisions, and doesn't have a 6'5" 230b monstrosity to close his eyes and throw a jump ball to.

Posted by easy money
Member since Feb 2005
14420 posts
Posted on 12/6/14 at 8:43 am to
Didn't JFF not end up in Oregon b/c of Marriota? Marriota has a chance to win something meaningful and isn't a piece of shite, so he gets my vote.
Posted by Tinymonkey
Member since Nov 2014
151 posts
Posted on 12/6/14 at 9:26 am to
JFF
Posted by Beerad
Texas
Member since Aug 2014
1700 posts
Posted on 12/6/14 at 9:31 am to
One of these has actually won and deserved the heisman....while the other was a canidate. One of these set record books on fire as a RS freshman. One of these played week end and week out against elite talent. Johnny and it's not even close.
This post was edited on 12/6/14 at 9:36 am
Posted by G2160
houston
Member since May 2013
1759 posts
Posted on 12/6/14 at 9:34 am to
Passing % comp
2013 manziel 69.9
2012 mariota 68.5
2014 mariota 68.3
2012 manziel 68.0
2013 mariota 63.5

passing yds
2013 manziel 4114
2014 mariota 3783
2012 manziel 3706
2013 mariota 3665
2012 mariota 2677

passing rating
2014 mariota 186.1
2013 manziel 172.9
2013 mariota 167.7
2012 mariota 163.2
2012 manziel 155.3

rushing yds
2012 manziel 1410
2013 manziel 759
2012 mariota 752
2013 mariota 715
2014 mariota 669

total yds
2012 manziel 5116
2013 manziel 4873
2014 mariota 4478
2013 mariota 4380
2012 mariota 3431

Pass+rush TD
2014 mariota 52
2012 manziel 47
2013 manziel 46
2013 mariota 40
2012 mariota 37

YPG
2012 manziel 393.5
2013 manziel 374.8
2014 mariota 344.5
2013 mariota 336.9
2012 mariota 263.8

SOS (sagarin)
2012 tamu 6
2013 tamu 26
2013 oregon 29
2014 oregon 34
2012 oregon 38
This post was edited on 12/6/14 at 9:46 am
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
134026 posts
Posted on 12/6/14 at 9:34 am to
Mr. Football
Posted by Farmer1906
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Apr 2009
50675 posts
Posted on 12/6/14 at 9:37 am to
quote:

Didn't JFF not end up in Oregon b/c of Marriota? Marriota has a chance to win something meaningful and isn't a piece of shite, so he gets my vote.


Nice try but johnny switched when he got an offer from A&M.
Posted by CheeseburgerEddie
Crimson Tide Fan Club
Member since Oct 2012
15574 posts
Posted on 12/6/14 at 9:38 am to
Mariota, JFF looked for the scramble so much and would toss them up there across the field a lot and against the grain. Both similar talents, but give me the more reliable one.

- to be fair I don't watch a lot of Oregon ball so Mariota could do the same thing, but he seems pretty solid
This post was edited on 12/6/14 at 9:40 am
Posted by Beerad
Texas
Member since Aug 2014
1700 posts
Posted on 12/6/14 at 9:55 am to
quote:

to be fair I don't watch a lot of Oregon ball so Mariota could do the same thing, but he seems pretty solid





Never mind the numbers....
Posted by oman
Dallas
Member since Sep 2014
3280 posts
Posted on 12/6/14 at 9:56 am to
quote:

lol... lsu alone put more defensive players in the NFL that those teams combined last year. gtf outta here, take that weak shite to the yankee/pac12/frickoff board. thanks, mgmt


This was easy. (Just NFL Draft). But heck, it's easier to play defense in the SEC, so no question they are going to have more folks in the NFL.

Stanford:
2014 2 47 Trent Murphy DE Washington Redskins
2014 5 162 Ed Reynolds DB Philadelphia Eagles
2014 6 204 Tyler Gaffney RB Carolina Panthers
2014 7 231 Ben Gardner DE Dallas Cowboys

LSU:
2014 2 51 Ego Ferguson DT Chicago Bears
2014 5 156 Lamin Barrow LB Denver Broncos

Posted by Duke
Twin Lakes, CO
Member since Jan 2008
35638 posts
Posted on 12/6/14 at 9:58 am to
It's Mariota for me. He's built the part and plays much more in control than JFF. Good arm, good speed, and doesn't make many mistakes. Sign me up.

JFF is perhaps the best bullshite artist I have ever seen (I mean that in the best possible way jizzjars). He's about as reckless as Favre with more athletic ability. He plays out of control, but he's one of those guys that it helps you far more often than it hurts you.
Posted by Beerad
Texas
Member since Aug 2014
1700 posts
Posted on 12/6/14 at 10:04 am to
The answer is really simple. Who is/was more valuable to their team?

Oregon pre-mariota: 12-2, Pac 12 and rose bowl champs.

Texas A&M pre-jff: 7-6, coach fired.
Posted by reggierayreb
Germantown
Member since Nov 2012
16974 posts
Posted on 12/6/14 at 10:07 am to
Mariota .. He isn't such a little shmuck.
This post was edited on 12/6/14 at 10:08 am
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
134026 posts
Posted on 12/6/14 at 10:08 am to
quote:

JFF is perhaps the best bullshite artist I have ever seen (I mean that in the best possible way jizzjars). He's about as reckless as Favre with more athletic ability. He plays out of control, but he's one of those guys that it helps you far more often than it hurts you.


Manziel is the football version of Manu Ginobili in his prime.
Posted by CheeseburgerEddie
Crimson Tide Fan Club
Member since Oct 2012
15574 posts
Posted on 12/6/14 at 10:08 am to
Like wins? Johnny football really got it done his final season didn't he.
This post was edited on 12/6/14 at 10:12 am
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
134026 posts
Posted on 12/6/14 at 10:12 am to
quote:

Johnny football really got it done his final season didn't he.


Statistically, yes he did.
Posted by sms151t
Polos, Porsches, Ponies..PROBATION
Member since Aug 2009
139860 posts
Posted on 12/6/14 at 10:12 am to
No stop that

JFF is Rodman more than Gnobli

Leads in big categories helps you win but the outside stuff just makes you think really? And he then parlays it to make it worse just because he rubs people nose in it at all chances and costs.
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
134026 posts
Posted on 12/6/14 at 10:14 am to
quote:

JFF is Rodman more than Gnobli


Nope. Talmbout style of play.

Manziel was a master of chaos and at his best when the play seemed out of control.

Same m.o. for Manu. Pop goes from wanting to trade him on the spot to wanting to make him breakfast the next day
This post was edited on 12/6/14 at 10:15 am
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