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Was Big 12 football better than the SEC?
Posted on 12/5/14 at 10:05 am
Posted on 12/5/14 at 10:05 am
Seems both Texas A&M and Missouri are having more success in the SEC than they did in the Big 12.
I understand that the SEC has won numerous national championships, but over the years the conference has been very top heavy and below average in the middle and bottom.
If Missouri wins on Saturday, the Big 12 could have two teams in the CFB playoff and the SEC completely shutout and on the heels of this past weekends embarrassing losses to the ACC much of the SEC's luster will be gone.
It wouldn't surprise me to see Missouri take Alabama to the woodshed, like Oklahoma did in last year's Sugar Bowl but I doubt y'all's refs will allow that to happen with so much on the line.
I understand that the SEC has won numerous national championships, but over the years the conference has been very top heavy and below average in the middle and bottom.
If Missouri wins on Saturday, the Big 12 could have two teams in the CFB playoff and the SEC completely shutout and on the heels of this past weekends embarrassing losses to the ACC much of the SEC's luster will be gone.
It wouldn't surprise me to see Missouri take Alabama to the woodshed, like Oklahoma did in last year's Sugar Bowl but I doubt y'all's refs will allow that to happen with so much on the line.
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Posted on 12/5/14 at 10:06 am to GAT BoilerPickle Doc
Moar threadzzes!!!
Posted on 12/5/14 at 10:07 am to GAT BoilerPickle Doc
When is the last time a big 12 team won a national championship? I will hang up and listen.
Posted on 12/5/14 at 10:11 am to GAT BoilerPickle Doc
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GAT BoilerPickle Doc
Please go back to Tigerboard because you're fugging terrible at this.
Posted on 12/5/14 at 10:12 am to GAT BoilerPickle Doc
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GAT BoilerPickle Doc
Stupid name is stupid.
Posted on 12/5/14 at 10:12 am to GAT BoilerPickle Doc
Who the frick are you?
What the frick are you babbling about?
Why the frick won't you do it somewhere else?
What the frick are you babbling about?
Why the frick won't you do it somewhere else?
Posted on 12/5/14 at 10:16 am to GAT BoilerPickle Doc
I think it was due to all the Big 12.
That and what was mentioned by Tom Tucker on Family Guy.
But yeah, there is definitely a green and purple smell to it. I see it going down on the 1-2 just like that.
That and what was mentioned by Tom Tucker on Family Guy.
But yeah, there is definitely a green and purple smell to it. I see it going down on the 1-2 just like that.
Posted on 12/5/14 at 10:19 am to GAT BoilerPickle Doc
Missouri was already a decent program in the Big 12 and moving into the SEC means you have to upgrade your facilities and people want to play for you when you move to a good conference. A&M was always competing with Texas and once A&M made the move to the SEC, the players from Texas wanted to play for a better conference so they decided to go to A&M
Posted on 12/5/14 at 10:32 am to GAT BoilerPickle Doc
It's obv Killz.
Posted on 12/5/14 at 10:39 am to GAT BoilerPickle Doc
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im a new guy too, but you should go away
Posted on 12/5/14 at 10:44 am to GAT BoilerPickle Doc
Please stop making me laugh!
Mizzou today and for the last 3 years has absolutely no reflection on our former conference. I did not see the BIG 12-2+2-2 jumping in to claim Mizzou during our first year in the SEC or after a loss to Indiana this year. Mizzou made the move for one reason and that was for equal treatment and opportunity, something that was sorely lacking in our conference. Four teams left, and Mizzou was the 3rd founding member to do so. But somehow being the last to leave made Mizzou the bad guy in the eyes of many. Go figure.
Five different SEC teams have won the NC in recent years, that is a little more depth than top heavy.
Mizzou today and for the last 3 years has absolutely no reflection on our former conference. I did not see the BIG 12-2+2-2 jumping in to claim Mizzou during our first year in the SEC or after a loss to Indiana this year. Mizzou made the move for one reason and that was for equal treatment and opportunity, something that was sorely lacking in our conference. Four teams left, and Mizzou was the 3rd founding member to do so. But somehow being the last to leave made Mizzou the bad guy in the eyes of many. Go figure.
Five different SEC teams have won the NC in recent years, that is a little more depth than top heavy.
Posted on 12/5/14 at 11:27 am to GAT BoilerPickle Doc
Keep up the excellent work on these threads. Gold star. I'm compiling a journal to record them all for posterity.
Posted on 12/5/14 at 11:39 am to GAT BoilerPickle Doc
The SEC is 10-1 in the last 11 Cotton Bowls (should be relatively equal matchups.)
The one win? Missouri.
The one win? Missouri.
Posted on 12/5/14 at 12:06 pm to GAT BoilerPickle Doc
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Seems both Texas A&M and Missouri are having more success in the SEC than they did in the Big 12.
The best 3 teams in the Big 12 are Baylor, TCU, and Kansas State. TCU beat Kansas (yes, Kansas) by 4 points and Texas by 38. Baylor beats Texas Tech by 2 points (Arkansas beat TT by 3 TDs) and Kansas State lost to Auburn (a 4 loss SEC team) who lost to Texas A&M. KSU or Baylor will lose another this weekend and there's not even a Big 12 title game.
It's not surprising that Texas A&M and Missouri are much better now that they're in the SEC. SEC teams are battle hardened from a tough SEC schedule and better competition makes better teams.
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It wouldn't surprise me to see Missouri take Alabama to the woodshed
This year Mizzou will more than likely not be taking Alabama to the woodshed but even with their loss to Indiana, they could probably embarrass ANY Big 12 team.
This post was edited on 12/5/14 at 12:26 pm
Posted on 12/5/14 at 12:30 pm to GAT BoilerPickle Doc
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the Big 12
Posted on 12/5/14 at 12:58 pm to GAT BoilerPickle Doc
Posted on 12/5/14 at 3:51 pm to GAT BoilerPickle Doc
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I understand that the SEC has won numerous national championships, but over the years the conference has been very top heavy and below average in the middle and bottom.
This is the part that's funny to me. Using the Cotton Bowl as a metric, since it's matched middling teams from both conferences since '99, the Big 12 has only won a single game since 2003.
To some extent, I think you're mistaking success with exposure.
Posted on 12/5/14 at 6:10 pm to GAT BoilerPickle Doc
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It wouldn't surprise me to see Missouri take Alabama to the woodshed, like Oklahoma did in last year's Sugar Bowl but I doubt y'all's refs will allow that to happen with so much on the line.
Is this how Big 12 fans spend their time on conference championship weekend nowadays?
Posted on 12/5/14 at 6:19 pm to GAT BoilerPickle Doc
screw football, Basketball was amazing in the Big 12
Posted on 12/5/14 at 9:35 pm to GAT BoilerPickle Doc
Well, considering the 12th place team in the SEC (Arkansas) skull dragged the 8th place team in the B12 (Texas Tech) 49-28, I'd say the SEC is stronger top to bottom.
Everybody talks about the SEC being top heavy, nobody talks about the middle and lower tier SEC teams kicking the shite out of other conferences.
Everybody talks about the SEC being top heavy, nobody talks about the middle and lower tier SEC teams kicking the shite out of other conferences.
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