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If head-to-head doesn't matter, what's the point of a playoff?
Posted on 11/4/14 at 8:44 pm
Posted on 11/4/14 at 8:44 pm
We're having a playoff so that teams can decide it on the field in head-to-head competition, yet according to the committee tasked with choosing the teams to participate, head-to-head competition isn't a deciding factor.
Does this make sense to anyone?
Does this make sense to anyone?
Posted on 11/4/14 at 8:46 pm to TX Tiger
Say you are ranked above Ole Miss; you are still not in the playoff. What does it matter?
Posted on 11/4/14 at 8:51 pm to TX Tiger
Beat Bama and it most likely won't matter.
Posted on 11/4/14 at 8:57 pm to TX Tiger
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We're having a playoff so that teams can decide it on the field in head-to-head competition, yet according to the committee tasked with choosing the teams to participate, head-to-head competition isn't a deciding factor. Does this make sense to anyone?
It's pretty clear the committee has no intention of following the stated criteria (conf. championship, strength of schedule, head-to-head). Considering those criteria, two of the three favor LSU over Ole Miss and the other is a wash, but Ole Miss is ranked five spots higher than LSU. With a win over Ole Miss and an extra loss, we were 15 spots behind Ole Miss. Ole Miss suffering its second loss narrowed that gap by 10 spots. Alabama is currently 11 spots ahead of LSU with one less loss. If LSU wins Saturday, handing Alabama its second loss, and if the committee stays true to form (narrowing the Alabama-LSU gap by 10 spots), next week there will be two teams with equal records, weaker schedules and head-to-head losses to LSU that will still be ranked ahead of LSU.
Margin of victory or defeat has never been mentioned as a factor in the committee's evaluations, but it seems that margin (specifically LSU's lopsided loss to Auburn) is the only one they are looking at when evaluating LSU compared to Ole Miss (and presumably Alabama if we win). Meanwhile, they are pointedly ignoring two of the factors specifically stated when the system was formed.
If this is an indication of how the committee will act going forward, then how will their openly bad-faith conduct affect the legitimacy of the playoff system?
This post was edited on 11/4/14 at 9:15 pm
Posted on 11/4/14 at 8:59 pm to TX Tiger
You aren't taking butthurt into account. It's the strongest factor in the playoff committee's decision-making.
Posted on 11/4/14 at 9:01 pm to TX Tiger
Head to head matters in the playoffs. It matters in the regular season. But no one really believes LSU is better than Ole Miss.
Why is it LSU fans have such a hard time admitting their team isn't as good as a team they won a game against?
A&M fans never tried hard to press the idea they were better than Bama in 2012. Same with USCe fans in 2010.
Why is it LSU fans have such a hard time admitting their team isn't as good as a team they won a game against?
A&M fans never tried hard to press the idea they were better than Bama in 2012. Same with USCe fans in 2010.
Posted on 11/4/14 at 9:04 pm to TX Tiger
LSU got demolished in their losses. Ole Miss had tough close loses.
Posted on 11/4/14 at 9:10 pm to TX Tiger
If we lose a game by 30 y'all will for sure pass us
Posted on 11/4/14 at 9:11 pm to TX Tiger
What really doesn't matter are the rankings right now
Posted on 11/4/14 at 9:17 pm to RebelExpress38
You lost 2 games stfu and thanks for sttdb.
Posted on 11/4/14 at 9:19 pm to AUtigerNOLA
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LSU got demolished in their losses. Ole Miss had tough close loses.
This is probably the dumbest argument anyone can use in this instance. If LSU and OM hadn't played yet it would make sense.
The committee is a complete joke and anyone who can't see that yet has blinders on. They're going to frick shite up to the point that people will be begging for the BCS to be brought back.
Posted on 11/4/14 at 9:22 pm to TX Tiger
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TX TigerIf head-to-head doesn't matter, what's the point of a playoff?
Head to head apparently didn't matter in November of 2011 in Tuscaloosa.
Posted on 11/4/14 at 9:23 pm to AllBamaDoesIsWin
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But no one really believes LSU is better than Ole Miss.
Only the people who watched LSU push them around for three hours and realize that Ole Miss had to get ten different kinds of lucky to keep it close on the scoreboard.
This post was edited on 11/4/14 at 9:23 pm
Posted on 11/4/14 at 9:23 pm to RB10
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The committee is a complete joke and anyone who can't see that yet has blinders on.
Why is that?
Posted on 11/4/14 at 9:27 pm to TX Tiger
if LSU would have had a viable quaterback ready for life after Zach and a middle linebacker worth a crap they wouldn't have lost those 2 games . Im not calling out the coaching staff , shite happens in sports . A lot of LSU fans think we deserve. to be higher ? Why because we beat OLE MISS ? We looked horrible against MSU , the worst 5 point loss ever in the history of college football and then looked like a high school team against Auburn. We deserve to be right where we are ranked.
Posted on 11/4/14 at 9:29 pm to TX Tiger
Since a number of you cannot grasp the concept well, let us look together at a case study not too long ago.
Dateline 2013, Ole Miss defeats LSU head to head.
Bowl game? LSU gets to go to the Outback Bowl in Florida, while Ole Miss had to go to the less distinguished bowl in the Music City Bowl.
Were you fighting for Ole Miss to go to Florida, while LSU shouldve gone to Nashville?
Dateline 2013, Ole Miss defeats LSU head to head.
Bowl game? LSU gets to go to the Outback Bowl in Florida, while Ole Miss had to go to the less distinguished bowl in the Music City Bowl.
Were you fighting for Ole Miss to go to Florida, while LSU shouldve gone to Nashville?
Posted on 11/4/14 at 9:29 pm to Smoke7024
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Why is that?
Seriously? They threw together 13 random people and said go put out rankings for the best teams in college football and we will put 4 of them in a playoff. No set criteria or guidelines for who should be ranked where so anyone can vote for any team for any reason. If you honestly think any person can be objective with that type of power you're delusional. Bias will come into play and without any sort of metrics for what carries more weight (Conference Titles, Quality wins or losses, schedule difficulty, Head-to-head, etc.) in ranking teams it's going to be a complete clusterfrick.
To be fair I've been saying this since the committee was announced.
ETA: Meant to say objective.
This post was edited on 11/4/14 at 9:33 pm
Posted on 11/4/14 at 9:32 pm to East Coast Band
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Since a number of you cannot grasp the concept well, let us look together at a case study not too long ago.
Dateline 2013, Ole Miss defeats LSU head to head.
Bowl game? LSU gets to go to the Outback Bowl in Florida, while Ole Miss had to go to the less distinguished bowl in the Music City Bowl.
Were you fighting for Ole Miss to go to Florida, while LSU shouldve gone to Nashville?
Did LSU and OM have the same number of losses when the bowls were selected? No, LSU had 3 losses while OM had 5. Your argument is fricking stupid.
Posted on 11/4/14 at 9:32 pm to East Coast Band
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Were you fighting for Ole Miss to go to Florida, while LSU shouldve gone to Nashville?
Not comparable. LSU finished with a better record and better ranking last year.
These two teams have the same record now, and LSU won the h2h.
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