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re: Aggies, are you guys concerned at all about Strong at UT?
Posted on 1/14/14 at 12:36 pm to WestCoastAg
Posted on 1/14/14 at 12:36 pm to WestCoastAg
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They are not going to be able to do what they did to us in the 2000s
Yup, that ship has sailed, and any sip worth his salt (precious few, of course), will admit that that fact pains them greatly.
Posted on 1/14/14 at 12:38 pm to TbirdSpur2010
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That's why most of us were not even overly concerned if the sips had managed to lure Saban away from Bama.
I was concerned with that.
Saban is such a brand, such a respected name, that his arrival would have raised the profile of the entire Big 12. The RRR would have gone from not being a top 10 game every year to being must-see-TV. OU, and Baylor and all the rest would have gotten a boost from Saban to Texas that would have hurt us.
Thank God their culture prevented the possibility of that happening (frick there is that politics thing again).
Posted on 1/14/14 at 12:40 pm to TbirdSpur2010
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Yup, that ship has sailed, and any sip worth his salt (precious few, of course), will admit that that fact pains them greatly.
But don't you know TBird, they got much in return for losing that control! I mean, the LHN brings in a whole 9% of their AD revenue and exposure to a whole 180,000 people.
It was the deal of a lifetime. ANY team would have taken that deal.
Posted on 1/14/14 at 12:40 pm to cas4t
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He was a monster recruiter. He's recruited a lot of NFL talent and is really highly regarded when it comes to recruiting.
Apparently Sumlin didn't get the message. He's already flipping Strong's defensive recruits.
I'm not worried about Strong. The guy they needed was Franklin. That dude would have been a fricking nightmare at Texas. Thinking about it really is frightening.
Instead Strong's losing kids to Sumlin already. He's not bringing in an OC that runs the style offense in which Texas kids want to play. Hell he's hiring Joe Wickline--Ok State's great OL coach--as co-OC. Shawn Watson will call the plays. Texas fans are livid.
I don't doubt Charlie will get his fair share of kids. But he's not threatening Sumlin right now. And I'm not worried about that changing soon.
Posted on 1/14/14 at 12:44 pm to cas4t
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I mean you could count aTm now, I guess. But it's only been a couple years. aTm isn't very successful, historically speaking.
I mean, we're a top 20 program historically if you go by wins. And A&M didn't develop into a large, world class institution until the 90s.
Posted on 1/14/14 at 12:45 pm to cardboardboxer
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But don't you know TBird, they got much in return for losing that control! I mean, the LHN brings in a whole 9% of their AD revenue and exposure to a whole 180,000 people.
Not to mention the UPGRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYEDS
Posted on 1/14/14 at 12:47 pm to DWag215
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He's not bringing in an OC that runs the style offense in which Texas kids want to play.
At that rate he'll have trouble out-recruiting Briles, much less Sumlin.
Posted on 1/14/14 at 12:47 pm to DWag215
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The guy they needed was Franklin. That dude would have been a fricking nightmare at Texas. Thinking about it really is frightening.
That really did scare me, actually.
Posted on 1/14/14 at 12:48 pm to TbirdSpur2010
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Not to mention the UPGRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYEDS
Oh yeah I forgot about them!
Of course, so did the rest of the country!!!
Posted on 1/14/14 at 12:49 pm to cas4t
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Second would be SMU and we know they won't be an issue.
Where are you getting this? They had like a three year run in the 80s.
Posted on 1/14/14 at 12:53 pm to DWag215
Don't you know, all that matters is national titles apparently?
I mean, the State of Texas had produced only one national title program the last quarter century, but despite that lack of data that is somehow the only valid way to determine which program was on top that entire time.
So guess what Texas fans- even though your team sucked in the 90's they won a national title in 2005 so that means Texas dominated the state the entire time. All those losses to A&M and empty stadiums were just a illusion, or simply a poor metric to determine the success of a program compared to the one true method.
Edit: Ooops my bad, I mentioned the fact football existed before 2000 in a thread with LSU fans in it.
So TWO metrics matter: national titles, and were they won when football existed (aka after 2000).
Hang it up Texas fans, yall are apparently kings forever.
I mean, the State of Texas had produced only one national title program the last quarter century, but despite that lack of data that is somehow the only valid way to determine which program was on top that entire time.
So guess what Texas fans- even though your team sucked in the 90's they won a national title in 2005 so that means Texas dominated the state the entire time. All those losses to A&M and empty stadiums were just a illusion, or simply a poor metric to determine the success of a program compared to the one true method.
Edit: Ooops my bad, I mentioned the fact football existed before 2000 in a thread with LSU fans in it.
So TWO metrics matter: national titles, and were they won when football existed (aka after 2000).
Hang it up Texas fans, yall are apparently kings forever.
This post was edited on 1/14/14 at 12:56 pm
Posted on 1/14/14 at 1:04 pm to cardboardboxer
Was worried about Franklin, but not Strong. Look at the top Texas recruits in 2015, and how A&M is positioned with ALL of them. Sumlin is just a machine...
If we show any defensive improvement, 2015 will be better than 2014 was. Strong isn't much of a threat - unless they begin to win again, and we begin to lose.
If we show any defensive improvement, 2015 will be better than 2014 was. Strong isn't much of a threat - unless they begin to win again, and we begin to lose.
Posted on 1/14/14 at 1:09 pm to cas4t
quote:we are a top 20 program of all time at least. 700 wins, 60+ winning percentage, 33+ bowls, a good number of all americans and NFL draftees, 18 conference championships, etc. The past 13 years doesn't equate our entire history
aTm isn't very successful, historically speaking.
This post was edited on 1/14/14 at 1:11 pm
Posted on 1/14/14 at 1:15 pm to EKG
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Few kids would rather play against Iowa State, Kansas
Makes you wonder just how in the world Oklahoma and Nebraska used to win all those Orange Bowls back in the heyday of the Big 8.
How did they ever sell kids on traveling to places like Ames, Manhattan or Stillwater?
Was it just the money?
Posted on 1/14/14 at 1:16 pm to BrerTiger
That and Osbourne would take players that no one wanted to touch because of grades and shite like that
Posted on 1/14/14 at 1:24 pm to roadGator
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Aggies, are you guys concerned at all about Strong at UT?
No.
Posted on 1/14/14 at 1:27 pm to ColoradoAg03
And just for emphasis, A&M will be signing three of the top six players in 2014, including the country's number 1.
So again, no, we're not worried about Strong.
So again, no, we're not worried about Strong.
Posted on 1/14/14 at 1:32 pm to BrerTiger
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Makes you wonder just how in the world Oklahoma and Nebraska used to win all those Orange Bowls back in the heyday of the Big 8
2 things.
1 - IIRC, there was either very lax limits or no limits at all on partial qualifiers. The Big 12 reduced that to 1 per season.
2 - Nebraska had something called a "preferred walk-on" program. IIRC, athletes that would normally be on scholarship but would cause Nebraska to bust the 25/85 cap would be able to enroll as preferred walk-ons and the bills were funnelled to donors. Since those donors only covered the tuition, room and board, etc. it stayed under the radar of the NCAA. Once the NCAA and Big 12 closed that loop as well, Osborne retired.
This post was edited on 1/14/14 at 1:33 pm
Posted on 1/14/14 at 4:05 pm to roadGator
Not really, the tea sippers will be ready to fire him if it doesn't turn around the program next year. They will not give a black coach 4 years if he isn't winning.If he does something amazing next year then yes we might have a problem.
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