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Posted by TBoy
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Posted on 12/5/13 at 3:36 pm to
If I were Saban, I'd go to Texas. Austin is a great town and they will drop real money. Why teh hell not?

Someone offer me $10 mil to move to Austin and I would move right now.
Posted by StinkBait72
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 12/5/13 at 3:38 pm to
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There comes a dollar point where contract numbers become politically untenable and become a public relations problem


Any coach with a clause (or even the mindset) to become the highest payed upon winning a championship would have his salary double thanks to ole Nick.

I personally think he may be retiring...ever since that awkward jump-hug he performed after the LSU game. His wife loves Tuscaloosa, but feels unappreciated.... He states he's too old to start over (See his future QB)... Maybe it's just wishful thinking on my part.
Posted by GREENHEAD22
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Posted on 12/5/13 at 3:38 pm to
A little off topic but I am guessing that LSU could not offer a coach the numbers Bama could? If Bama can offer 10 which I think is prob 2 mil too high I have a tough time thinking LSU could match that. I would think 7 possible 8 max?

And I am not talking Saban I am just saying in general, does LSU have the same $ as bama?
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 12/5/13 at 3:38 pm to
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There comes a dollar point where contract numbers become politically untenable and become a public relations problem for a school to throw at a coach. Heck, Alabama caught absolute hell in 2007 when they started paying Saban $4 million a year. We were "ruining college football".


Again - this is where perspective and ego all play out.

Bama has a huge football ego, as does LSU - but Texas has a huge cultural ego that extends to everything, especially football - particularly in the Dallas/Austin corridor. Every Texan has a Texas state clock in their home. Every Texan has a Texas flag hanging or flying somewhere. They're extremely proud.

This is the home of the Dallas soap opera, and JR Ewing like characters in real life. While people in Louisiana and Alabama might balk at their state university paying $10 million for a football coach - for the right coach, Texans will say (at least initially) - THANK G-D UT got this head coaching hire right - $10 million a year for Saban is steep, but if you want the best, you have to pay the most. The eyes of Texas are upon you....
Posted by Govt Tide
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 12/5/13 at 3:39 pm to
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I think Alabama did ruin CFB.

5 years later, aTm just offered a coach who went 8-4 with a Heisman QB $5 million. It's gotten out of hand.



Yet everyone is talking about Texas offering Saban 10 to 12 million a year like it's no big deal. They conveniently won't be held accountable because "they're Texas and they're rich" and apparently entitled to pay that much without and criticism.
Posted by 9th life
birmingham
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 12/5/13 at 3:39 pm to
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You just made my point.


I must be dumb, or not crazy. What point would that be? Please don't quote scripture.
Posted by Smalls
Southern California
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Posted on 12/5/13 at 3:40 pm to
I need to open a few dog tracks.
Posted by Bear Is Dead
Monroe
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Posted on 12/5/13 at 3:40 pm to
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And I am not talking Saban I am just saying in general, does LSU have the same $ as bama?

Right now, no.
Posted by Brageous
Member since Jul 2008
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Posted on 12/5/13 at 3:40 pm to
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TX will not out pay Bama


Money is not the only reason Saban would leave. Matching doesn't mean he'd go. Hell even paying a little more may not be enough. Saban likes the challenge and even though he doesn't admit it, he may even like the change of scenery.

I'm not saying he's going to Texas, but there are more reasons than just money.
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 12/5/13 at 3:40 pm to
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A little off topic but I am guessing that LSU could not offer a coach the numbers Bama could?


Probably not raw dollars, but it would be a comparable compensation package, value-wise. Most SEC schools, to be honest, are only limited by political realities and other institutional priorities, because of the revenue sharing agreement - particularly the "upper half" of the conference, football-wise.
This post was edited on 12/5/13 at 3:42 pm
Posted by Riseupfromtherubble
You'll Never Walk Alone
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Posted on 12/5/13 at 3:41 pm to
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especially football - particularly in the Dallas/Austin corridor. Every Texan has a Texas state clock in their home. Every Texan has a Texas flag hanging or flying somewhere. They're extremely proud.


That's great and all, but if you think the state of texas places more value on college football than the state of Alabama then you're kidding yourself
Posted by Choctaw
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Posted on 12/5/13 at 3:41 pm to
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TX will not out pay Bama


if it becomes a bidding war there is no way bama could match UT. UT is the wealthiest school in the nation by far
This post was edited on 12/5/13 at 3:42 pm
Posted by royDmercer
The Grenada
Member since Mar 2013
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Posted on 12/5/13 at 3:42 pm to
u a damn cullbuck if i seen 1
Posted by Riseupfromtherubble
You'll Never Walk Alone
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 12/5/13 at 3:42 pm to
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if it becomes a bidding war there is no way bama could match UT. UT is the wealthiest school in the nation by far


brilliant.
Posted by 9th life
birmingham
Member since Sep 2009
7310 posts
Posted on 12/5/13 at 3:42 pm to
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Yet everyone is talking about Texas offering Saban 10 to 12 million a year like it's no big deal. They conveniently won't be held accountable because "they're Texas and they're rich" and apparently entitled to pay that much without and criticism.


I think that "best investment the university ever made" quote might be a contributing factor, along with it not actually being a real figure. IF a $10-12MM annual salary came to pass, it would most certainly be met with criticism and scrutiny.
Posted by StinkBait72
Member since Nov 2011
2057 posts
Posted on 12/5/13 at 3:43 pm to
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I would think 7 possible 8 max?


I don't think LSU could even do that. much less come close to what Bama could ultimately pay. This is without considering the high amount we pay our assistants (Cam #2 and Chavis #4)

Posted by GREENHEAD22
Member since Nov 2009
19625 posts
Posted on 12/5/13 at 3:43 pm to
Well lets go booster wise, can TAF match the Gumps or are we a couple billionaires short?
Posted by Ace Midnight
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89613 posts
Posted on 12/5/13 at 3:45 pm to
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That's great and all, but if you think the state of texas places more value on college football than the state of Alabama then you're kidding yourself


I didn't say that - I said, and I thought I was clear, that Texas has a giant cultural ego - the greatest of the 50 states, by far - probably only Hawaii (and they're so laid back, overall, who can tell?) even in the same conversation.

And football, across the board, is a huge priority for Texas - it is diluted, somewhat, by the proliferation of big league and mid-major programs in the state, the 50,000 high schools that take football seriously and 2 NFL teams.

But Texas takes football as seriously as Alabama takes football - perhaps even more, overall.

And the Longhorns are second only to the Cowboys (and even then, only by a little.)

This post was edited on 12/5/13 at 3:46 pm
Posted by genro
Member since Nov 2011
61788 posts
Posted on 12/5/13 at 3:45 pm to
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UT is the wealthiest school in the nation by far



Harvard, Yale, Princeton, Texas A&M, Penn, Michigan, MIT, Stanford, and Notre Dame are all much richer than Texas.


Sorry if actual facts go against message board mob mentality. Texas's wealth is vastly overblown.
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 12/5/13 at 3:46 pm to
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Well lets go booster wise, can TAF match the Gumps or are we a couple billionaires short?


LSU may have as many billionaire boosters as Alabama, but none of them are going to fork over their money for a coach like Bama boosters would. Football is important here. But it's not Alabama important.
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