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Posted on 11/11/13 at 8:12 pm to BayouBengals03
Posted on 11/11/13 at 8:12 pm to BayouBengals03
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Put Manziel on Alabama
Manziel doesn't have the discipline to play under Saban. He would be out before he finished unpacking.
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Posted on 11/11/13 at 8:13 pm to BamaDude06
Posted on 11/11/13 at 8:14 pm to BamaDude06
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He puts his team in better position to win than Manziel. How often does AJ heave a ball and just pray it is caught? Johnny does it multiple times a game. It allowed Bama to build it's 35-14 lead and kept Auburn in the game.
If Johnny Manziel played for Alabama and AJ McCarron for A&M that game would have been a 4-5 touchdown win for alabama easy. Maybe more.
Posted on 11/11/13 at 8:15 pm to RandySavage
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If Johnny Manziel played for Alabama and AJ McCarron for A&M that game would have been a 4-5 touchdown win for alabama easy. Maybe more.
Manziel isn't disciplined enough to play QB in a regular offense.
Posted on 11/11/13 at 8:16 pm to Tigah32
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Heisman is the best player in the nation in that year. Not best player on the best team.
Most Outstanding Player
Despite what morons say, wins and titles will always be seen as a QB stat. AJ is going to have more than solid numbers, constantly showing up in the big moment, and will be well on his way to a third ring as a starter, fourth overall. Should he win? I don't know, but anyone who complains if he does is just going to be bitter.
Posted on 11/11/13 at 8:17 pm to RandySavage
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If Johnny Manziel played for Alabama and AJ McCarron for A&M that game would have been a 4-5 touchdown win for alabama easy. Maybe more
Thanks for the insight vegas book maker.
Posted on 11/11/13 at 8:17 pm to BamaDude06
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Just look at what he did to AJ, then the BACKUP QB, against Mississippi State in garbage time when he just threw the ball up for grabs.
It would help to be protected by an Alabama offensive line that doesn't really allow the QB to be touched.
Now, McCarron has great pocket presence. But I don't think anyone moves around in the pocket better than Manziel.
Posted on 11/11/13 at 8:18 pm to AllBamaDoesIsWin
The criteria doesn't say MOST outstanding player, it says outstanding player who demonstrates the attributes.
Posted on 11/11/13 at 8:18 pm to BamaDude06
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There a very few QB's with as much overall control of their offense that AJ has. He is responsible for checking Bama in and out of plays based on his reads of the defense. In this era of college football many QBs don't have to read a defense pre snap. They line up, let the defense line up, and then look to the sideline to see what their coach wants them to do. AJ is college football's version of Peyton Manning. Of course, college Peyton Manning was denied a Heisman too, but heck he couldn
t beat Florida
I hope this is sarcasm, but coming from...
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BamaDude
it's probably not.
Posted on 11/11/13 at 8:22 pm to Libertyabides71
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Manziel isn't disciplined enough to play QB in a regular offense.
Ballers like him can play in any offense. The next time McCarron puts his team on his back and leads them to a win will be the first time.
Hiding behind a defense that allows about 5 points a game and handing it off 40 times to 5 star backs running behind 5 star linemen is not overly challenging for any average QB.
I guess all you guys thought Ken Dorsey should have won the Heisman too.
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Posted on 11/11/13 at 8:22 pm to RandySavage
And like I thought no one is saying anything about the TD/INT ratio vs ranked opponents.
Posted on 11/11/13 at 8:24 pm to BayouBengals03
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Now, McCarron has great pocket presence. But I don't think anyone moves around in the pocket better than Manziel.
Yeah, true. One of the biggest knocks on AJ is when pressured in the pocket too often he just tries to get away and throw the ball into the stands instead of trying to pick up a couple of yards.. Of course, when you play with a big lead like he often does, why risk the injury to only pick up a couple of yards? However, this past week vs LSU he actually did that a couple of time. He got 2-3 yards once and the other was when LSU was flagged for a hit out of bounds.
Posted on 11/11/13 at 8:26 pm to RandySavage
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The next time McCarron puts his team on his back and leads them to a win will be the first time.
WHAT!?
His throwing was the reason we beat LSU in the title game.
He put the team on his back in the Rally in Death Valley.
He made the game winning throw vs Georgia for the SEC Championship.
He put the team on his back and won a shootout with Johnny Football.
In the second quarter when Bama needed him to make plays, he was 6/6 for 117 yards and a TD vs LSU this past weekend. In the second half it was Saban who decided to run the ball and destroy the will of LSU. But when AJ was asked to make plays, he did.
Are you fricking retarded?
Posted on 11/11/13 at 8:27 pm to BamaDude06
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Yeah, true. One of the biggest knocks on AJ is when pressured in the pocket too often he just tries to get away and throw the ball into the stands instead of trying to pick up a couple of yards.. Of course, when you play with a big lead like he often does, why risk the injury to only pick up a couple of yards? However, this past week vs LSU he actually did that a couple of time. He got 2-3 yards once and the other was when LSU was flagged for a hit out of bounds.
This is exactly what I want my QB to do. Easy game? Throw it away, live to fight another down. Big game? Pick up a few yards, get out of bounds. AJ does it to perfection.
Posted on 11/11/13 at 8:28 pm to RandySavage
MVP of National Championship...... I would say "Team on Back"
Posted on 11/11/13 at 8:29 pm to kywildcatfanone
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kywildcatfanone
A.J. McCarron should win Heisman if...
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McCarron isn't better than Manziel or Winston so no.
This. He just has the better teammates.
Manziel wouldn't even get an invite to New York if not for Mike Evans
Posted on 11/11/13 at 8:29 pm to AllBamaDoesIsWin
You can't reason with butthurt people my fellow Alabama fans.
Posted on 11/11/13 at 8:30 pm to RandySavage
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The next time McCarron puts his team on his back and leads them to a win will be the first time.
Actually he's done that in more big games than any other quarterback in college football history.
Posted on 11/11/13 at 8:32 pm to AllBamaDoesIsWin
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Despite what morons say, wins and titles will always be seen as a QB stat.
So team wins and titles are a QB stat? And you're a moron if you think otherwise?
I guess someone should inform Mosley that he's only along for the ride as AJ tries to 3-peat.
For frick's sake, even you Bama fans have to realize how ridiculous that logic is.
Posted on 11/11/13 at 8:33 pm to NawlinsTiger9
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So team wins and titles are a QB stat? And you're a moron if you think otherwise?
I guess someone should inform Mosley that he's only along for the ride as AJ tries to 3-peat.
For frick's sake, even you Bama fans have to realize how ridiculous that logic is.
Literally the only people I've ever seen get pissy about crediting QBs with wins and titles are people who don't have a history with their QBs winning rings and titles.
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