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re: Bama fans talking crap to Fulmer's daughter on twitter
Posted on 10/24/13 at 12:36 pm to TigerBait2008
Posted on 10/24/13 at 12:36 pm to TigerBait2008
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TigerBait2008
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Gumps are a classy bunch..
Everyone go look at the post history of this cry baby bitch.
Every time he post it's downing "Gumps" or crying about something...or how Alabama isn't this or that and how awful LSU is. He's an awful human being and needs to be stoned to death.
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Posted on 10/24/13 at 12:40 pm to IAmReality
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Oh it counts, it just doesn't prove you are a great coach. Fulmer's all time record against Alabama was primarily due to the incompetence he was coaching against.
Wait a second... I thought Alabama's bad stretch was due to a witch hunt led by Fulmer and Kramer?
Posted on 10/24/13 at 12:42 pm to BigOrangeBri
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UT has possibly been in its worst period ever
Guess who led them into that period.
Posted on 10/24/13 at 12:43 pm to NorthGAVol
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witch hunt led by Fulmer and Kramer
Federal trial testimony showed Tenn bid on Means as well. Why do you suppose Kramer never turned Tenn in?
Posted on 10/24/13 at 12:44 pm to IAmReality
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Oh it counts, it just doesn't prove you are a great coach.
Fulmer's all time record against Alabama was primarily due to the incompetence he was coaching against.
He doesn't have to prove sh!t. He won 2 SEC titles, 1 National title, had a 152-52 record as head coach, and is in the college football hall of fame.
Its over now. Deal with it.
Posted on 10/24/13 at 12:44 pm to Hater Bait
As a Vol fan I see it that way. Odd thing about Updyke is that he is older. Most older Bammers can handle success and defeat with class. The younger ones do dumb stuff like the teabagging the LSU fan. Like him or not attacking Fulmer is one thing. It kind of comes as expected with the huge salaries. But Fulmers daughter should be left alone period.
Posted on 10/24/13 at 12:47 pm to VolunteerimusPrime
You are right. I do love people that put themselves in the public spotlight and then complain about the repercussions.
Posted on 10/24/13 at 12:50 pm to Alahunter
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Federal trial testimony showed Tenn bid on Means as well. Why do you suppose Kramer never turned Tenn in?
What did UT do wrong in the incident? Did they pay the player/coach anything? There were also other schools in the bidding as well, correct? did they get any immunity for testimony also?
Posted on 10/24/13 at 12:50 pm to BigOrangeBri
I see the asterisk coming. You cant win. If in a few years Saban retires before Butch has us rolling then the but, but, but Butch had a losing record against Saban. You can only compare records against time they are employed. And make no mistake about it. From 90s to early 2000s no one liked seeing Fulmer on the opposing sidelines because it meant loss for your team 75% of the time.
Posted on 10/24/13 at 12:56 pm to ThaKaptin
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During he weakest period in Alabama history.
I don't see you apologizing for the wins you've gotten in the weakest period in our history.
You enjoy that while it lasts.
Posted on 10/24/13 at 1:08 pm to NorthGAVol
I love the Tennessee week. I can't wait until BDS smells like cigars.
Posted on 10/24/13 at 1:09 pm to NYCAuburn
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What did UT do wrong in the incident? Did they pay the player/coach anything? There were also other schools in the bidding as well, correct? did they get any immunity for testimony also?
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Fulmer piqued Kramer's interest enough to kick the SEC office into an investigative mode, and later lined up potential witnesses to chat up lead NCAA investigator Rich Johanningmeier. All of this is clear from an exhaustive paper trail of documents uncovered in a lawsuit that offers a rare glimpse into the underbelly of an NCAA probe.
In faxes (at least six, between April 13 and Sept. 16, 1998) to the SEC commissioner, Fulmer lays out how Alabama allegedly is busting the rulebook. The documents, typed on Tennessee football letterhead, are variously labeled "Confidential" and "For Your Eyes Only!!!" Each cover sheet is addressed to "Coach Kramer."
Kramer forwarded the information to ex-FBI agent Bill Sievers, then under contract to the conference, who in turn hired a private eye to work the case in Memphis. It is apparent Fulmer was frustrated and consumed by Young. In a memo to Kramer, Fulmer rehashed Young's ties to the late Bear Bryant, offering up phone numbers, addresses and points of contact in a who's who of players Young allegedly bought -- "usually defensive linemen that are black and poor."
"[Young] is very wealthy and often drinks a lot and brags about his boys he gets to go to Alabama," Fulmer wrote to Kramer.
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"All the main players were there," Lang said. "Alabama, Kentucky, Georgia, Tennessee, Ole Miss, Arkansas. They all came to Trezevant, and that's when it all started."
Among the coaches was Ole Miss assistant Kurt Roper.
"Kurt was new to Ole Miss, and I wasn't really paying him much attention, so I think he felt left out", Lang said. "So he tracked me down as I was walking down to the football field and said, 'Coach, we're new at Ole Miss and we need to be able to recruit with the big boys. Tell me what we need to do to get Means.'
Lang talked to each of the coaches when that day was done. All of them, he said, indicated they'd be willing to do "whatever it takes" to get Means
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But Lang said Alabama wasn't the only school that bid on Means. The others were:
Arkansas: Danny Nutt and Fitz Hill were the two Arkansas assistants in charge of recruiting Means. "They offered me a job to be the defensive line coach at Arkansas, plus the money Logan had already given me, which was about $80,000."
Documents obtained by the Commercial Appeal corroborate Lang's story.
Tennessee: Assistant Pat Washington was in charge of recruiting Means.
"The first he talked about was $50,000, and then $75,000.
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Posted on 10/24/13 at 1:11 pm to ThaKaptin
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Is it still ok since we were the final nail in your coffin?
SCAR was the final nail in Phat Phil's coffin ... not Bama.
SCAR got Johnny Majors fired and replaced by Phat Phil. SCAR got Phat Phil phired and replaced by Lane Kiffin.
It's all been part of our master plan.
Posted on 10/24/13 at 1:13 pm to Alahunter
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Why do you suppose Kramer never turned Tenn in?
Only the penalty goes to the winning bidder...think of it as a tax.
Posted on 10/24/13 at 1:13 pm to Alahunter
so...
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What did UT do wrong in the incident? Did they pay the player/coach anything? There were also other schools in the bidding as well, correct? did they get any immunity for testimony also?
Posted on 10/24/13 at 1:15 pm to NYCAuburn
7 pages, huh? 
Posted on 10/24/13 at 1:15 pm to madmaxvol
And Kramer, being a Tenn boy, sure wasn't interested in investigating anyone else despite the fact there was corroborating evidence they were doing underhanded things.
In any case. Things turned out best. Bama cleaned up, is winning National Championships again, putting Tennessee in it's place again and Tn fans still defend the guy who started the decline of their program, because he was too busy playing Inspector Clouseau instead of being a coach. at Tennessee.
In any case. Things turned out best. Bama cleaned up, is winning National Championships again, putting Tennessee in it's place again and Tn fans still defend the guy who started the decline of their program, because he was too busy playing Inspector Clouseau instead of being a coach.
at Tennessee.Posted on 10/24/13 at 1:17 pm to NYCAuburn
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There were also other schools in the bidding as well, correct
Answered.
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What did UT do wrong in the incident
Coaches offering improper benefits, with legal testimony and documentation probably should have started an investigation, don't you think?
Posted on 10/24/13 at 1:19 pm to Alahunter
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Answered.
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did they get any immunity for testimony also?
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Coaches offering improper benefits, with legal testimony and documentation probably should have started an investigation, don't you think?
Did UT pay a recruit? as far as I am aware unsuccessful solicitation is not a violation, at least it wasnt at that time
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