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re: Joker Phillips Has Been Fired (Letter from AD Mitch Barnhart Enclosed)

Posted on 11/4/12 at 8:11 pm to
Posted by CountryVolFan
Knoxville, TN
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 11/4/12 at 8:11 pm to
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I bet Cutt and Fulmer names is to throw people off the main target (or the last back up plan if the targets turn us down).


Because of Barnhart? I think Chavis gets a call before those two.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
RIP Hefty Lefty - 1981-2019
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Posted on 11/4/12 at 8:12 pm to
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Sonny Dykes is the main man.


Posted by WildcatMike
Lexington, KY
Member since Dec 2005
41723 posts
Posted on 11/4/12 at 8:19 pm to
I'd take Chavis in a freaking heart beat.

Thing is, Kragthorpe would probably come with him as the OC.

Brent Pease is the sleeper here.
Posted by volfan30
Member since Jun 2010
40964 posts
Posted on 11/4/12 at 8:22 pm to
Chavis would be a disaster as a HC. UK needs someone who can recruit.
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
119869 posts
Posted on 11/4/12 at 8:23 pm to
I guess I'm the only who thinks Dykes is the wrong direction. Mumme 2.0 won't win me back, nor will it win football games in the SEC.
Posted by Tiger Authority
Member since Jul 2007
29476 posts
Posted on 11/4/12 at 8:24 pm to
Why would Dykes go to Kentucky? It's a bad job. I'm not trying to be a dick, but it really is just a bad job.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Member since Nov 2010
99738 posts
Posted on 11/4/12 at 8:27 pm to
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Why would Dykes go to Kentucky? It's a bad job. I'm not trying to be a dick, but it really is just a bad job.


He has ties to Kentucky. Was on staff twice as a position coach. Has a degree from UK. If he jumps at the very least he knows what he's getting into.
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
119869 posts
Posted on 11/4/12 at 8:27 pm to
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Why would Dykes go to Kentucky? It's a bad job. I'm not trying to be a dick, but it really is just a bad job.



A bad job in the SEC is better than a good job in whatever conference they are in. Plus your salary doubles.
Posted by WildcatMike
Lexington, KY
Member since Dec 2005
41723 posts
Posted on 11/4/12 at 8:29 pm to
Lulz, why did Franklin take the Vandy job?

Because it is a job in a major football conference.
Posted by Cheese Grits
Wherever I lay my hat is my home
Member since Apr 2012
55184 posts
Posted on 11/4/12 at 10:27 pm to
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Sonny Dykes
- high risk and little reward in the SEC

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Tim DeRuyter
- did a good job at Air Force and less well at TAMU. Not sure he can make the SEC jump

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Ben McAdoo
- too young to destroy his career

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Kliff Kingsbury
- I would defer to the TAMU folks on here for a better discussion

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Willie Taggart
- I like Taggert but that big of a jump in class could mean 3 - 5 years and real derailment

I think Chavis or Smart is the correct move but there is no incentive to get them here

If I were to go outside the box I think you look for an older guy from the NFL who had experience with a defense oriented team. Not saying Bill Cowher per se but someone along that line. Saban came from the pros and Miles did a stint in the NFL too. Kids today in the SEC are in the SEC because they want a shot to play on Sundays. How many current SEC coaches have no NFL experience?

Cowher is 55 now and his wife's death in 2010 has given him time to grieve. She was a pro basketball player and the upswing of UK's women's program may appeal to him.
Posted by BasedGator
Member since Sep 2012
391 posts
Posted on 11/4/12 at 11:23 pm to
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Brent Pease is the sleeper here.


I like Pease a lot, but our offense is ranked 102. Doesn't seem like something that would excite most Kentucky fans.
Posted by ljhog
Lake Jackson, Tx.
Member since Apr 2009
19116 posts
Posted on 11/5/12 at 12:33 am to
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Bobby is going to Tennessee

Bad for the rest of the SEC. Only thing worse would be Bobby at Texas. That would be bad for all of college football. Can you imagine Petrino with that talent?
Posted by CarolinaCock
South Carolina
Member since Jun 2012
2606 posts
Posted on 11/5/12 at 12:55 am to
why don't you guys just hire chad morris
Posted by Rig
BHM
Member since Aug 2011
41856 posts
Posted on 11/5/12 at 1:27 am to
You're out of your damn mind if you think Bill Cowher or anyone of his prestige is going to walk through that Kentucky door to coach football.


On another note, Joker's statement shows what type of coach I had believed him to be.. a class act. Hope he lands on his feet elsewhere.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
263001 posts
Posted on 11/5/12 at 1:32 am to
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Because it is a job in a major football conference.



Could also be a career killer. A better job may come along
Posted by Rig
BHM
Member since Aug 2011
41856 posts
Posted on 11/5/12 at 1:43 am to
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Bad for the rest of the SEC. Only thing worse would be Bobby at Texas. That would be bad for all of college football. Can you imagine Petrino with that talent?
Yeah I imagine he'd find a way to mess that shite up as well.
Posted by Cheese Grits
Wherever I lay my hat is my home
Member since Apr 2012
55184 posts
Posted on 11/5/12 at 1:51 am to
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Bad for the rest of the SEC. Only thing worse would be Bobby at Texas. That would be bad for all of college football. Can you imagine Petrino with that talent?


Are you saying the mistresses in Texas are more talented than the ones in Arkansas?
Posted by Cheese Grits
Wherever I lay my hat is my home
Member since Apr 2012
55184 posts
Posted on 11/5/12 at 2:02 am to
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You're out of your damn mind if you think Bill Cowher or anyone of his prestige is going to walk through that Kentucky door to coach football.


I was using him as an example of an older guy from the pros with an ability to establish a solid defense.

If UK is going to go young they will go with some offensive guy that is gone in 4 years after his career is shot. Sure Sonny Dykes is about in his early 40's but so was Mumme and that did not work out so well. If they were going to go young I would go to the other side of the ball and look at who is up and coming on that side of the ball.

I think the DC at Notre Dame is a young guy and he has shown he can get the Irish to build a solid D to become competitive. At least if they let him go in 4 years he will leave a stronger defense for the next guy to inherit. After Hal left look at how many years it took just to get back to a centered spot.



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Joker's statement shows what type of coach I had believed him to be.. a class act.


I agree with this.
Posted by Herm Edwards
The Grind Canyon
Member since Oct 2012
41 posts
Posted on 11/5/12 at 2:36 am to
Kentucky had no choice. I hate it for you guys because I know Joker would have stayed there as long as youd let him.


Kentucky needs someone who has proven himself as a head coach. Coordinators will love to get their hands on a head coaching job in the SEC, but coordinators also have growing pains to deal with.

Someone with a proven track record like Tubby, Tommy Bowden, Ron Zook, or Cutcliffe would be best for Kentucky to stabilize the program.

This post was edited on 11/5/12 at 2:46 am
Posted by WeBleedCrimson
Member since Mar 2008
21708 posts
Posted on 11/5/12 at 2:46 am to
Saban to UK
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