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LSU has gotten weaker at several key positions from 2011 to 2012

Posted on 11/1/12 at 10:14 pm
Posted by jddawg58
Saban Nation
Member since Oct 2011
2157 posts
Posted on 11/1/12 at 10:14 pm
Presently only 8 starters from the 2011 team start for the 2012 Tigers.
Almost all the "new" starters are a step down in talent and/or experience, with the possible exception of LG Collins and RB Hill.

QB Lee/Jefferson > Mett
RB Ware/Ford < Hill
FB Copeland = Copeland
WR Randle > Beckham
WR Beckham > Landry
WR Shephard = WR Shephard
TE Peterson > TE Clement
LT Faulk > LT Dworaczyk
LG Hebert < LG Collins
C Lonergan = C Lonergan
RG Blackwell > RG Turner
RT Hurst > RT Alexander


Defense

FS Eric Reid = FS Eric Reid
SS Taylor > SS Loston
CB Claiborne > CB Simon
CB Mathieu > CB Collins
LB Baker > LB Barrow
LB Minter = LB Minter
LB Francois = LB Muncie
DE Mingo = DE Mingo
DT Logan = DT Logan
DT Brockers > DT Johnson
DE Montgom = DE Montgom


You simply can't lose phenomenal players like Claiborne, Mathieu, Brockers, Faulk and Randle without a corresponding drop in production from those units. You lost the 6th (Mo) and 14th (Brockers) picks in the first round of the NFL draft. Randle was a second round pick. Faulk and Mathieu would have been drafted this year.

The 2011 LSU team was far more talented than the 2012 team that is currently taking the field for the Tigers. LSU lost its playmakers on Offense and Defense. It should not be a shock that the team has not been nearly so dominant. LSU lost guys that caused a lot of turnovers and scored a lot of Tds.

While nearly every poster said that Mett would be an upgrade at QB, he has not been nearly as efficient as Lee (who threw for more Tds and fewer Ints).

If last year's talented group lost 21-0 in the BCSCG, how will this year's less talented group fare?
This post was edited on 11/1/12 at 11:53 pm
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
Markey's bar
Member since Oct 2008
84893 posts
Posted on 11/1/12 at 10:16 pm to
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If last year's talented group lost 21-0 in the BCSCG, how will this year's less talented group fare?


Probably lose 100-0. Sucks for us that Bama returned all 22 starters.
Posted by GeauxWarTigers
Auburn
Member since Oct 2010
18046 posts
Posted on 11/1/12 at 10:16 pm to
quote:

jddawg58


We're in your head.
You skeered.
We comin'
You gonna get raped
We're going in dry
Posted by UFownstSECsince1950
Member since Dec 2009
32609 posts
Posted on 11/1/12 at 10:17 pm to
Agreed

Even though LSU fans will tell you they don't regroup, they reload.....or something to that tune
Posted by DMagic
#ChowderPosse
Member since Aug 2010
46495 posts
Posted on 11/1/12 at 10:18 pm to
You should take a break from starting threads
Posted by c on z
Zamunda
Member since Mar 2009
127472 posts
Posted on 11/1/12 at 10:19 pm to
quote:

TE Peterson > TE Clement


meh


quote:

RG Blackwell > RG Turner


I wouldn't be too quick to say that. He part of the reason why our running game has improved over the last 2 games


quote:

CB Mathieu > CB Collins


This may be true, but Jalen has held his own this year.


quote:

LB Francoi > LB Muncie


Major wash here.
Posted by Statestreet
Gueydan
Member since Sep 2008
12961 posts
Posted on 11/1/12 at 10:19 pm to
Good stuff
Posted by MSCoastTigerGirl
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
35525 posts
Posted on 11/1/12 at 10:20 pm to
What do you plan to do with all of your free time after Saturday when you have no reason to start 5 threads about LSU every day?
Posted by gotygers
west St.Tammany
Member since Sep 2007
3016 posts
Posted on 11/1/12 at 10:21 pm to
Wrong we are Better on Def this year. All our Dline is projected to go in the first round. Mont and Mingo top5 picks. Jalin Mills is a better cover guy then TM7 much better. Loston is much better then taylor and played alot last year.

On O Hill is the best back that LSU has had in years.
This post was edited on 11/1/12 at 10:23 pm
Posted by GeauxWarTigers
Auburn
Member since Oct 2010
18046 posts
Posted on 11/1/12 at 10:21 pm to
quote:

WR Randle > Beckham
WR Beckham > Landry
WR Shephard = WR Shephard


I like what you did here.

Should be

Randle > Landry
Beckham = Beckham
Shep = Shep

But that wouldn't fit your argument now would it.


quote:

TE Peterson > TE Clement


the LSU Tight End doesn't mean shite. We hardly use them as anything but a blocker.


quote:

LB Baker > LB Barrow
LB Francois > LB Muncie





quote:

DT Brockers > DT Johnson


Push. Brockers was good, but Johnson is an animal.
Posted by Indfanfromcol
LSU
Member since Jan 2011
14737 posts
Posted on 11/1/12 at 10:21 pm to
Ya know what....I think I see it.
I see the scared in you.
Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
70573 posts
Posted on 11/1/12 at 10:21 pm to
quote:

WR Randle > Beckham
WR Beckham > Landry

This is retarded.

quote:

LB Francois > LB Muncie

This is super retarded. A) Muncie is better than Francois ever was, B) Muncie doesn't start any more since he's still putting weight back on from the virus he got, C) Lamar Louis is better than Francois was.
quote:

LG Hebert = LG Collins

Collins is head and shoulders better than TBob

And you also assume that all the returning players did not improve at all. Logan this is better than Logan last year, etc.
Posted by GCTiger11
Ocean Springs, MS
Member since Jan 2012
45162 posts
Posted on 11/1/12 at 10:21 pm to
I know it's LSU-Bama week and all but holy shite, you've taken the phrase "We're in your head" to a new high.
Posted by Bombblonde
Member since May 2012
666 posts
Posted on 11/1/12 at 10:23 pm to
quote:

WR Beckham > Landry


Haven't been watching

quote:

LB Minter = LB Minter


Def haven't been watching

quote:

LB Francois > LB Muncie


Nah

quote:

DT Brockers > DT Johnson


Nah


quote:

quote: LG Hebert = LG Collins



This post was edited on 11/1/12 at 10:25 pm
Posted by Wild Thang
YAW YAW Fooball Nation
Member since Jun 2009
44181 posts
Posted on 11/1/12 at 10:23 pm to
quote:

jddawg58


PANIC
Posted by TigerTailsSoup
Member since Sep 2005
10830 posts
Posted on 11/1/12 at 10:26 pm to
we got this
Posted by vidtiger23
Member since Feb 2012
4900 posts
Posted on 11/1/12 at 10:28 pm to
Im guessing it's impossible for players to get better after a year of experience. Just retarded.
Posted by ipodking
#StopTalkingAboutWomensSports
Member since Jun 2008
56307 posts
Posted on 11/1/12 at 10:28 pm to
Lots of fail in the OP

Minter is 10x better than he was last season

Saying La'El Colling is equal to t-bob is a fricking joke. Collins will be an all American at the end of the season.

Posted by Hugo Stiglitz
Member since Oct 2010
72937 posts
Posted on 11/1/12 at 10:30 pm to
Amazingly, LSU is projected to have three players go in the first round of the 2013 NFL draft.

We only had two in 2012.
Posted by Froman
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2007
36241 posts
Posted on 11/1/12 at 10:35 pm to
It's called reloading, dude. Your team does it too. We could still beat pretty much anybody in the country even if I agreed with you.
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