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re: The "you already lost to LSU" argument
Posted on 11/22/11 at 9:58 am to crimson crazy
Posted on 11/22/11 at 9:58 am to crimson crazy
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How many of those "BS" championships were you alive for, and why were they BS? How many BS championships have we claimed since there was an official system in place?
Solid deflection. What's that have to do with the point that Bama is an incredibly entitled and delusional fanbase?
For sucks sake, yall claimed this was your best defense ever and Jordan fricking Jefferson beat you.
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Posted on 11/22/11 at 9:58 am to arty
Arty, are you that dense ? Just because you try a 50 yard field goal doesn't mean its "in the leather" like a friendly golf game.
Posted on 11/22/11 at 9:58 am to Y.A. Tittle
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Are you asserting there were any logical issues with the way that scenario played out that year? If so, what were they?
I make no such assertion. Just as this year there are few logical issues that have played out - not "none", but a few.
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However, the year was what it was, and I could not see any logical reason for LSU to NOT be in that game that year.
Remove names from the equation and just look at resumes. Since ALL teams that would have a shot at the #2 spot have 1 loss you can only compare them to each other NOT to the #1 team.
Team A - lost to an unranked team they were favored to beat by 28
Team B - Lost by double digits to a 2 loss team
Team C - lost in OT to #1 by 3
Team D - has played only 5 games against schools from BCS conferences in the past 4 years. Lost a game this year to a non BCS school when favored by double digits.
Team E - lost to a two loss team by 20 points.
ANY of those teams are playing in the BCSNCG by default. Which of them do you think is most worthy? Which is least worthy?
Posted on 11/22/11 at 9:58 am to Govt Tide
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Think of how irrational and bizarre that argument is.
What does a 1-1 split of a "two game series" prove? How fricking irrational and bizarre is it to say the first game counts for nothing but seeding in the BCS championship game?
If its so rational to argue the two best ranked teams must play for this championship, then why don't we do away with the East/West divisions in the SEC and let the two best teams play? How can we give any creedence to our own conference championship if we don't follow the same reasoning?
Posted on 11/22/11 at 9:59 am to bamasgot13
quote:I missed the announcement.
And OSU lost allowing Bama a chance to get into the big game.
Posted on 11/22/11 at 9:59 am to arty
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You got close twice.
Ignoring my question I see. Why is that?
Posted on 11/22/11 at 9:59 am to arty
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So Bama had a block in the back on a pick that most assuredly would have given us at least 3 if not 7.
Well don't cheat then.
Posted on 11/22/11 at 9:59 am to Govt Tide
quote:I get that. And I don't disagree. LSU fans are bitcing about the possibility of playing Bama again, b/c Bama poses a bigger threat to OSU, and we don't feel we have anything left to prove given our schedule this year. We'll take the easiest route to the crystal.
The point is that this entire website is loaded with thread after thread and post after post about how Alabama has no business playing in the BCS Title game because they already lost to the #1 team. These posts are also ripping Alabama fans as being "delusional" for trying to point out why they are #2 and why they think they deserve that spot over Okie State. I'm turning it around and showing that LSU would be in the EXACT SAME POSITION AS ALABAMA and therefore all the temper tantrums being thrown by LSU fans seem kind of silly given that Alabama would be going through the exact same disadvantages had they beaten LSU. LSU fans are convinced the college football world is there to kiss Alabama's a## when they would be getting the same treatment if the roles between LSU and Bama were reversed. I'm sure Alabama fans would be throwing the same kind of tantrums if the roles were reversed and we had to beat Arky and play an extra game to get in the title game but I guess we'll never know.
Bama fans are bitching b/c they had the "best" loss, and some still think they actually won on Nov. 5
If the roles were reversed, both teams would still be bitching for the same reasons. It doesn't change the fact that it doesn't matter - ultimately voters will decide who they want to see play in Nola.
Posted on 11/22/11 at 10:01 am to meauxjeaux2
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You're ignoring we won the best conference.
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bingo.
No alabama fan who's trying to make a comparison to the 2 loss 2007 season wil laddress this.
I'm a Bama fan and I've addressed it. You are not REQUIRED to win your conference - or division - in order to earn a top 2 spot in the BCS. Therefore you are not required to win a conference or division to play for the BCSNC.
Is it fair? Of course not. But does it matter? of course not. If the BCS hates it then they'll change the rules after the season.
Posted on 11/22/11 at 10:01 am to arty
quote:This
One thing that you need to realize is that, Bama was playing WAY over their heads in that game. LSU is the far superior team and it will show.
quote:Alabama had exactly one legitimate scoring drive the entire game. Two others aided by key PF calls, the other two by SUCCESSIVE interceptions from the worst QB play LSU has seen all year. ABSOLUTELY EVERYTHING went Alabama's way for 3 entire quarters - every fumble, every interception, every foul call, yet you couldn't get the ball into the red zone - ever. Alabama's last three offensive drives produced exactly TWO plays for positive yards. There is ABSOLUTELY ZERO chance of Alabama beating LSU again. Bring it on.
Yep. 4 missed field goals and we lost by 3. That says a lot. Corndogs only got close twice.
Posted on 11/22/11 at 10:03 am to coloradoBengal
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then why don't we do away with the East/West divisions in the SEC and let the two best teams play?
Against NCAA rules. There must be division in CFB conference if the want to play a championship game.
Posted on 11/22/11 at 10:04 am to TDlurker
Funny, Nov. 5 was only 17 days ago, but my memory has escaped me. I had no idea that LSU was so dominated by Bama. Sounds like Bama did everything they wanted to offensively, and LSU must've had negative yards for the game.
I guess an LSU fan snuck past security and operated the scoreboard. I don't see how we possibly won the game.
I guess an LSU fan snuck past security and operated the scoreboard. I don't see how we possibly won the game.
Posted on 11/22/11 at 10:05 am to Rex Manning
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How is it fair that we have to beat you twice to win the NC but you only have to beat us once?
Is it more fair that a team can lose to Iowa State at the end of the season and win a national championship. You want a team to be rewarded for choking because you don't want the BCS to match the two top teams. The BCS is supposed to match the two top teams whether they are in the same division or not.
Is it fair to be the consensus second best team and not play in the BCS game? The BCS was designed to put 1 versus 2. Now you're saying it isn't fair on number 1 to play number 2.
Posted on 11/22/11 at 10:06 am to arty
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Yep. 4 missed field goals and we lost by 3. That says a lot. Corndogs only got close twice.
By using how close LSU got to make those FGs how many times did Bama get "close"? Posted on 11/22/11 at 10:07 am to I-59 Tiger
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Arty, are you that dense ? Just because you try a 50 yard field goal doesn't mean its "in the leather" like a friendly golf game.
You're either a retard or in denial if you've looked at the drives of the game.
The penalties probably more than the missed field goals cost Bama the game.
Corndogs got close twice. Just admit it. That's why you don't want to play Bama again.
Posted on 11/22/11 at 10:07 am to arwicklu
quote:Fairness doesn't factor into the BCS. It may not be "fair" to LSU that they would have to play Bama twice. It may not be "fair" to Bama if they got jumped by OSU.
Is it more fair that a team can lose to Iowa State at the end of the season and win a national championship. You want a team to be rewarded for choking because you don't want the BCS to match the two top teams. The BCS is supposed to match the two top teams whether they are in the same division or not.
Is it fair to be the consensus second best team and not play in the BCS game? The BCS was designed to put 1 versus 2. Now you're saying it isn't fair on number 1 to play number 2.
Life, and particularly the BCS, doesn't care what we perceive as "fair"
Posted on 11/22/11 at 10:08 am to Govt Tide
quote:Good god, shall I link you to the Bama boards?
The point is that this entire website is loaded with thread after thread and post after post about how Alabama has no business playing in the BCS Title game because they already lost to the #1 team. These posts are also ripping Alabama fans as being "delusional" for trying to point out why they are #2 and why they think they deserve that spot over Okie State.
Posted on 11/22/11 at 10:08 am to LNCHBOX
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OSU winning their conference has a good chance of changing that.
oSu winning the Big12 is HARDLY a given
Posted on 11/22/11 at 10:08 am to arty
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You're either a retard or in denial if you've looked at the drives of the game.
The penalties probably more than the missed field goals cost Bama the game.
Corndogs got close twice. Just admit it. That's why you don't want to play Bama again.
I will say it appears we got close more than you did.
right, we played our worst game of the year on offense, in your house no less, and still won.
And we're sacred of playing you in New Orleans?
Posted on 11/22/11 at 10:08 am to bamasgot13
LSU would beat Bama in NOLA anyways. LSU beat Bama at home so there is no reason to expect anything different.
I personally would like LSU to play a good team they haven't already beat; however, I would enjoy LSU crushing Bama's dreams twice in one season.
I personally would like LSU to play a good team they haven't already beat; however, I would enjoy LSU crushing Bama's dreams twice in one season.
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