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re: The "you already lost to LSU" argument

Posted on 11/22/11 at 9:52 am to
Posted by TriumphTiger
Alpharetta, GA
Member since Sep 2007
10187 posts
Posted on 11/22/11 at 9:52 am to
quote:

The "you already lost to LSU" argument ... This seems to be the ONE argument those against a rematch cling to for dear life


Because it's a damn strong argument?

The only problem is that the arguments for other teams being left out are stronger now after all of the upsets.
Posted by TigahFan4Life
Baton Rouge, LA home of the TIGAHS!
Member since Aug 2007
10975 posts
Posted on 11/22/11 at 9:52 am to
Bama fans still amaze me somehow. This board is like a car wreck, just can't stop watching. I love the fact that y'all can still come here, call out LSU fans, assume you are the better team (even though you lost to LSU in the biggest game that Bryant-Denny has ever held), then become cocky AGAIN thinking you deserve another shot, and that you will win. I for one, HOPE that we get to play you again. One thing that you need to realize is that, Bama was playing WAY over their heads in that game. LSU is the far superior team and it will show. This would be our home game, and no way we lose in New Orleans. After we win, you will soon realize Saban is not the god you portray him to be. We will have won 3 straight, and we can hopefully stop hearing the bitching and moaning about Bama being the better team.

end of another rant
This post was edited on 11/22/11 at 9:54 am
Posted by arty
Member since Nov 2010
927 posts
Posted on 11/22/11 at 9:52 am to
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Those darn scoreboards. But Jay Barker says 4 missed fgs > 3 made fgs, so hang in there, Arty.


Yep. 4 missed field goals and we lost by 3. That says a lot. Corndogs only got close twice.
Posted by bona fide
Burma
Member since Jun 2010
8972 posts
Posted on 11/22/11 at 9:53 am to
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Ask UGA how that worked out for them while they sat at home not winning their division. Christ you people are retarded.


Why you so mad?

GA didn't get voted in, simple. Every year 118 teams do not get voted in. This year Bama will, again simple.
Posted by LNCHBOX
70448
Member since Jun 2009
84537 posts
Posted on 11/22/11 at 9:54 am to
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Read a few more post for explanation.


Like that makes it any more right
Posted by I-59 Tiger
Vestavia Hills, AL
Member since Sep 2003
36703 posts
Posted on 11/22/11 at 9:54 am to
LSU actually had two first and goals. Alabama had neither. LSU dropped a td pass before halftime and had to kick a field goal on 3rd down.

Hang in there, Arty.
Posted by jatebe
Queen of Links
Member since Oct 2008
18293 posts
Posted on 11/22/11 at 9:54 am to
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Of course we'd be #2. Bama should be #2 as well. But that's this week. May not be true in 2 weeks from now.


Well, why the argument? Let the system play out. Alabama may still be #2, or Arkansas my beat LSU, or Auburn may beat Alabama, or Georgia may beat LSU or Arkansas.

Let the system play out and we will see in a couple of weeks who will be playing in the national championship game.

Right now, I'm happy that the SEC is sticking it to all the other conferences.
Posted by LNCHBOX
70448
Member since Jun 2009
84537 posts
Posted on 11/22/11 at 9:54 am to
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Yep. 4 missed field goals and we lost by 3. That says a lot. Corndogs only got close twice.





So 50 yard field goals are now close?
Posted by meauxjeaux2
watson
Member since Oct 2007
60283 posts
Posted on 11/22/11 at 9:55 am to
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Corndogs


Posted by Govt Tide
Member since Nov 2009
9155 posts
Posted on 11/22/11 at 9:55 am to
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Who's dancing around it? Of course LSU would be #2 right now. What's the point?


The point is that this entire website is loaded with thread after thread and post after post about how Alabama has no business playing in the BCS Title game because they already lost to the #1 team. These posts are also ripping Alabama fans as being "delusional" for trying to point out why they are #2 and why they think they deserve that spot over Okie State. I'm turning it around and showing that LSU would be in the EXACT SAME POSITION AS ALABAMA and therefore all the temper tantrums being thrown by LSU fans seem kind of silly given that Alabama would be going through the exact same disadvantages had they beaten LSU. LSU fans are convinced the college football world is there to kiss Alabama's a## when they would be getting the same treatment if the roles between LSU and Bama were reversed. I'm sure Alabama fans would be throwing the same kind of tantrums if the roles were reversed and we had to beat Arky and play an extra game to get in the title game but I guess we'll never know.
Posted by therick711
South
Member since Jan 2008
25348 posts
Posted on 11/22/11 at 9:55 am to
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I'll be happy to take another loss to LSU if that's the way it plays out. It will prove to me they're the better team.


Oh well thank god it will prove it to you. Bama fans didn't respect the result the first time, I have no reason to believe they will respect the result the second time.
Posted by chipd
Seattle
Member since Jul 2011
373 posts
Posted on 11/22/11 at 9:55 am to
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For those of you who say it's not fair that LSU may have to beat Bama twice to win the NC, you must be against a playoff system...right?


Playoffs would be seeded, and the winners of the league would get an advantage for winning the league. None of these things are happening now.
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
134026 posts
Posted on 11/22/11 at 9:55 am to
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Right now, I'm happy that the SEC is sticking it to all the other conferences.


This.
Posted by LNCHBOX
70448
Member since Jun 2009
84537 posts
Posted on 11/22/11 at 9:56 am to
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GA didn't get voted in, simple. Every year 118 teams do not get voted in. This year Bama will, again simple.



If you say so. OSU winning their conference has a good chance of changing that.
Posted by crimson crazy
Member since Oct 2008
20512 posts
Posted on 11/22/11 at 9:56 am to
quote:

How many BS championships do yall claim?


How many of those "BS" championships were you alive for, and why were they BS? How many BS championships have we claimed since there was an official system in place?
Posted by NaturalBeam
Member since Sep 2007
14546 posts
Posted on 11/22/11 at 9:56 am to
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Well, why the argument? Let the system play out. Alabama may still be #2, or Arkansas my beat LSU, or Auburn may beat Alabama, or Georgia may beat LSU or Arkansas.

Let the system play out and we will see in a couple of weeks who will be playing in the national championship game.

Right now, I'm happy that the SEC is sticking it to all the other conferences
No argument from me, this is how I feel. If OSU beats OU, I think it will be close b/t them and Bama. Not sure what will happen. I'd give the nod to Bama, but no guarantees either way.

Posted by TigerWoody
btwn where I was & where I will be
Member since Dec 2007
11387 posts
Posted on 11/22/11 at 9:56 am to
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There are another voters out there that lack intergrity that will vote against Alabama just for spite.
Sure there will be some. Some because you are Bama; some because you are in the SEC.

quote:

this is what may end up snubbing Alabama.
Seriously? You think there will be enough of the above to be the difference? You want to call it "integrity"? Since when is voting for anything in which the criteria upon which the voter is not bound to any rules and get very little in guidelines for voting, being left to decide on his or her own, a matter of "integrity"? There is a multitude of perspectives voters may use to determine their vote and YES, biases will play into the vote as in EVERY voting scenario no matter what the vote is about.

quote:

Do LSU fans think they would NOT be #2 in the BCS right now if they had lost in overtime on November 5th?
This is not objective IF you are using it as criteria for this:
quote:

Your honest objective answer to that question will reveal your true feelings about where Alabama currently stands in the BCS standings.

That is fishing with an ulterior, though admitted, motive.

Though I will play along.

I truly have difficulty determining where LSU would be right now were we the losers of the Nov 5 game, though my hunch is we would be in the same position Bama is in RIGHT NOW, all other things being the same. HOWEVER, I do believe things would change more heavily AGAINST LSU after this upcoming weekend IF we were in 2nd going into the weekend. LSU would likely not be getting the media lovefest to the degree Bama is NOT BECAUSE OF THE RANTARD MANTRA "MEDIA HATES LSU". It would be for the same reason Bama is getting the favorable treatment they are currently getting: There was a strong pre-season sentiment favoring Bama and sports media types hang on to biases to prove themselves correct as long as possible....ego. That's it. There would be a much more solid chance of Okie St leaping over LSU after this weekend than there is of Okie St leaping Bama.

So, I answered your Bama aspect of the question for you.
Posted by arty
Member since Nov 2010
927 posts
Posted on 11/22/11 at 9:56 am to
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LSU actually had two first and goals. Alabama had neither. LSU dropped a td pass before halftime and had to kick a field goal on 3rd down.


Dropped a TD pass? Is that all you have? So Bama had a block in the back on a pick that most assuredly would have given us at least 3 if not 7.

You got close twice.
Posted by I-59 Tiger
Vestavia Hills, AL
Member since Sep 2003
36703 posts
Posted on 11/22/11 at 9:57 am to
quote:

I'm sure Alabama fans would be throwing the same kind of tantrums if the roles were reversed and we had to beat Arky and play an extra game to get in the title game but I guess we'll never know.


Bless your heart. I hope no other Tide fan does an i.p. trace on your posts.
Posted by Colonel Flagg
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2010
22874 posts
Posted on 11/22/11 at 9:57 am to
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When was the other time besides LSU in 2007 that a 2 loss team even PLAYED for the BCS title? Just because it had never happened before (or since) doesn't mean it can't (or didn't) happen.


This is a really dumb argument and I hope you know that.

There is no guarantee a BCS conference team will have less than two losses any year. We know for a fact there will always be a winner of conferences and divisions each season.

Everyone has such revisionist history about 2007. The whole year all the talk was about the depth of good teams and the different teams rotating through the top of the poll. So I don't see why people think a two loss championship is cheap.

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