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Posted on 11/22/11 at 9:40 am to LNCHBOX
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When has anyone won a BCS Championship without winning their division?
Alabama hasn't won the BCS yet. My contention is they'll play in the game. I'll reply to your question by posing a revised quesiton back to you:
When was the other time besides LSU in 2007 that a 2 loss team even PLAYED for the BCS title? Just because it had never happened before (or since) doesn't mean it can't (or didn't) happen.
You are trying to create rules for the BCSNCG that simply don't exist. You aren't required to win your conference or division in order to play in the game just as you aren't required to have 1 or fewer losses.
You just have to finish in the top 2 in the BCS ratings before the bowl games. Just as LSU did in 2007 and just as Bama likely will in 2011.
Posted on 11/22/11 at 9:40 am to Govt Tide
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This seems to be the ONE argument those against a rematch cling to for dear life. It's such a ridiculous argument too
This noted football 'expert' had this to say:
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Inside we both know what's been going on. We know the game and we're gonna play it. And if you ask me how I'm feeling. Don't tell me you're too blind to see
He goes on to say:
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Never gonna give you up. Never gonna let you down. Never gonna run around and desert you. Never gonna make you cry. Never gonna say goodbye. Never gonna tell a lie and hurt you.
This post was edited on 11/22/11 at 9:41 am
Posted on 11/22/11 at 9:41 am to Govt Tide
You already lost to LSU.
Posted on 11/22/11 at 9:41 am to Teague
So if Bama fans are the most entitled, and always think we're the best, would we really care as much as LSU fans do if we had to play LSU again? If you guys weren't afraid of losing, you wouldn't give a damn who you played.
But, this is getting off topic.
Bama is the #2 team in the country, and by BCS rules, they play the #1 team. /the end
But, this is getting off topic.
Bama is the #2 team in the country, and by BCS rules, they play the #1 team. /the end
Posted on 11/22/11 at 9:41 am to bamasgot13
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When was the other time besides LSU in 2007 that a 2 loss team even PLAYED for the BCS title
Who else should have been in the game? You're ignoring we won the best conference.
Posted on 11/22/11 at 9:41 am to TigerWoody
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I am more curious as to how many Bama fans in this thread are 100% convinced they are going to the BCSCG no matter what happens to LSU and OkieSt this weekend so long as Bama wins the Iron Bowl?
Not 100% convinced AT ALL. There are another voters out there that lack intergrity that will vote against Alabama just for spite. I have no doubts about THAT and this is what may end up snubbing Alabama.
I will pose the question again to LSU fans because no one has given an objective answer to it yet. It's a simple question to. Do LSU fans think they would NOT be #2 in the BCS right now if they had lost in overtime on November 5th? Your honest objective answer to that question will reveal your true feelings about where Alabama currently stands in the BCS standings.
Posted on 11/22/11 at 9:42 am to Teague
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Bama is the #2 team in the country, and by BCS rules, they play the #1 team. /the end
We'll see in two weeks won't we?
Posted on 11/22/11 at 9:42 am to bona fide
quote:we would have still won
Guess LSU, Bama need to replay overtime by the NFL rules also.
Posted on 11/22/11 at 9:42 am to TigerWoody
I can see this post on Iowa State Rant from an OSU poster.
You beat us in double overtime and our coach had just tragically passed away. We were the better team. If we could just play y'all again we could show it.
Then all the questions would start about how Iowa State was just worried about the rematch. Then OSU fans would tell ISU fans that they didn't win convincingly enough. Then OSU fans would say this is like that year that there was a three way tie at the top of the big 12.
Then we would link to it over here and laugh about how sad that was and how butt hurt OSU fans looked. Life is, I guess, funny that way.
You beat us in double overtime and our coach had just tragically passed away. We were the better team. If we could just play y'all again we could show it.
Then all the questions would start about how Iowa State was just worried about the rematch. Then OSU fans would tell ISU fans that they didn't win convincingly enough. Then OSU fans would say this is like that year that there was a three way tie at the top of the big 12.
Then we would link to it over here and laugh about how sad that was and how butt hurt OSU fans looked. Life is, I guess, funny that way.
Posted on 11/22/11 at 9:42 am to Teague
quote:If the game were played this weekend, you'd be right. But if OSU jumps you, then they'll be the #2 team in the country, and by BCS rules, they play the #1 team. /the end
Bama is the #2 team in the country, and by BCS rules, they play the #1 team. /the end
Posted on 11/22/11 at 9:43 am to bamasgot13
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When was the other time besides LSU in 2007 that a 2 loss team even PLAYED for the BCS title? Just because it had never happened before (or since) doesn't mean it can't (or didn't) happen.
Are you asserting there were any logical issues with the way that scenario played out that year? If so, what were they?
For the record, I've said since that time that winning a NC with two losses felt a bit cheap. However, the year was what it was, and I could not see any logical reason for LSU to NOT be in that game that year.
Posted on 11/22/11 at 9:43 am to Govt Tide
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I will pose the question again to LSU fans because no one has given an objective answer to it yet. It's a simple question to. Do LSU fans think they would NOT be #2 in the BCS right now if they had lost in overtime on November 5th?
Who is saying Alabama isn't #2 in the BCS right now ?Posted on 11/22/11 at 9:43 am to Govt Tide
quote:Of course we'd be #2. Bama should be #2 as well. But that's this week. May not be true in 2 weeks from now.
I will pose the question again to LSU fans because no one has given an objective answer to it yet. It's a simple question to. Do LSU fans think they would NOT be #2 in the BCS right now if they had lost in overtime on November 5th? Your honest objective answer to that question will reveal your true feelings about where Alabama currently stands in the BCS standings.
Posted on 11/22/11 at 9:43 am to LNCHBOX
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When was the other time besides LSU in 2007 that a 2 loss team even PLAYED for the BCS title
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Who else should have been in the game?
Damn you for stealing Bama's fans reasoning for playing in the game this year.
Posted on 11/22/11 at 9:44 am to bona fide
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Damn you for stealing Bama's fans reasoning for playing in the game this year.
If OSU beats OU, I think they are more deserving than Bama. Sorry.
Posted on 11/22/11 at 9:44 am to Kingpin
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It's not about what's fair to you. You LSU fans are so self-centered about this.
What the hell are you talking about? The whole point of sports is fairness. That is why there are rules. If fairness is not a goal, than what is the point?
Posted on 11/22/11 at 9:45 am to meauxjeaux2
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The only straws I can give you to grab onto is the fact that teams ahead of LSU lost allowing them to get into the big game
And OSU lost allowing Bama a chance to get into the big game.
The only thing you and I seem to differ on is the whole "won division" thing which, btw, Bama could (in theory) still do if Arky beats you and you fall to #3 in the BCS. In which case, you'll be talking about deserving a "rematch" with Arky if Bama lost to UGA.
You do not have to win your division. If there was a provision in the BCS that required this then the argument on either side would be unnecessary. There is no such provision so, as Brad Edwards said, if Bama and LSU both win this week - REGARDLESS of the SEC Championship game results - we have a 90% chance at a rematch.
Posted on 11/22/11 at 9:45 am to LNCHBOX
quote:bingo.
You're ignoring we won the best conference.
No alabama fan who's trying to make a comparison to the 2 loss 2007 season wil laddress this.
Posted on 11/22/11 at 9:45 am to bona fide
quote:That's how voters felt in 2007. That may be how voters feel this year, who knows. But it wasn't a lock in 2007 for LSU, and it isn't a lock in 2011 for Bama.
Damn you for stealing Bama's fans reasoning for playing in the game this year
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