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The NCAA could have solved NIL 10 yrs ago...
Posted on 12/30/25 at 5:11 pm
Posted on 12/30/25 at 5:11 pm
...and completely avoided all this mess.
I bet if the NCAA had come out proactively with a rev share or similar NIL style program back in 2015 and said "every player will make $30k a year for his services in addition to his scholarship", while that number probably would have crept up every year and would probably be $50k now, this whole thing could have been avoided.
Much of the catalyst here has been with dirt poor players barely being able to participate in college life due to MASSIVE poverty. I mean, the Charger only charges so much if you don't have gas money.
And let me be clear, no kid should be brought in as a show horse...to grind day to day and produce and exceptional results for his University, yet be a social pariah because he's got holes in his shoes. That's not right.
Either way, if they'd have put $50k in those kids' hands back then, we wouldn't be having these "end of College Football' conversations.
With college kids of my own, I shudder at the idea of some kids with even $1000. Forget $2 million. If my kid got $2 million right now, God help us all. I'd have gotten a full Lulu/Alo/Vuori wardrobe for Christmas (bc that's HER thing) and never worn any of it , but be CRYING at the money she blew on it.
I bet if the NCAA had come out proactively with a rev share or similar NIL style program back in 2015 and said "every player will make $30k a year for his services in addition to his scholarship", while that number probably would have crept up every year and would probably be $50k now, this whole thing could have been avoided.
Much of the catalyst here has been with dirt poor players barely being able to participate in college life due to MASSIVE poverty. I mean, the Charger only charges so much if you don't have gas money.
And let me be clear, no kid should be brought in as a show horse...to grind day to day and produce and exceptional results for his University, yet be a social pariah because he's got holes in his shoes. That's not right.
Either way, if they'd have put $50k in those kids' hands back then, we wouldn't be having these "end of College Football' conversations.
With college kids of my own, I shudder at the idea of some kids with even $1000. Forget $2 million. If my kid got $2 million right now, God help us all. I'd have gotten a full Lulu/Alo/Vuori wardrobe for Christmas (bc that's HER thing) and never worn any of it , but be CRYING at the money she blew on it.
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Posted on 12/30/25 at 5:13 pm to Russianblue
Once, again.
NIL isn't the problem.
The Transfer Portal is the fricking issue.
Former 5-star DE Tunmisi Adele just entered the Transfer Portal over the weekend.
Here's where he's played in his career already:
2022: Texas A&M
2023: Michigan State
2024: Texas State
2025: UNLV
That's fricking ridiculous.
ETA: They just spot lighted QB Luke Altmyer in the Music City Bowl broadcast.
He's played for Florida State, Ole Miss and Illinois.
I mean, what the frick are we doing here?
NIL isn't the problem.
The Transfer Portal is the fricking issue.
Former 5-star DE Tunmisi Adele just entered the Transfer Portal over the weekend.
Here's where he's played in his career already:
2022: Texas A&M
2023: Michigan State
2024: Texas State
2025: UNLV
That's fricking ridiculous.
ETA: They just spot lighted QB Luke Altmyer in the Music City Bowl broadcast.
He's played for Florida State, Ole Miss and Illinois.
I mean, what the frick are we doing here?
This post was edited on 12/30/25 at 5:17 pm
Posted on 12/30/25 at 5:15 pm to TideSaint
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NIL isn't the problem.
The Transfer Portal is the fricking issue.
Say it again for the people in the back.
However, it ain't gonna change without Supreme Court approval because limiting their transfers would limit their earnings.
The sport is screwed at both ends.
Posted on 12/30/25 at 5:18 pm to TriStateAreaFootball
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However, it ain't gonna change without Supreme Court approval because limiting their transfers would limit their earnings.
Let them transfer once without penalty.
They want to transfer a 2nd or 3rd time? Make them sit out a year.
Posted on 12/30/25 at 5:19 pm to TideSaint
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They want to transfer a 2nd or 3rd time? Make them sit out a year.
Again, the Court precedent is that the NCAA would be acting as a monopoly that limits earnings if they did that.
Don't get me wrong. I wish it was that simple.
Posted on 12/30/25 at 5:25 pm to Russianblue
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Much of the catalyst here has been with dirt poor players
I know one player that enrolled with close to $2m NIL and his entire (otherwise poor) family quit their jobs and moved to his city.
He's obviously elite, but who's to say he's 100% going to be a high NFL draft pick in a few years?
I hope someone is making a documentary about all of this, because it's going to be fascinating down the road.
Posted on 12/30/25 at 5:25 pm to TriStateAreaFootball
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Limit their earnings
So non-competes are fine for everyone else, but we can’t limit “amateur” football transfers tied to academic institutions
We live in a silly world.
This is the NCAA’s fault though, never forget that. They can’t do anything right.
Brought this on themselves by going after kids signing autographs for a dollar a pop & then let it run roughshod over the sport by sticking their heads in the sand when it was clear what was coming down the pipe.
Posted on 12/30/25 at 5:27 pm to TideSaint
quote:Well they’re wrong on the broadcast because he has only been at Ole Miss and Illinois
ETA: They just spot lighted QB Luke Altmyer in the Music City Bowl broadcast. He's played for Florida State, Ole Miss and Illinois.
Posted on 12/30/25 at 5:28 pm to TideSaint
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That's fricking ridiculous.
Taint!
For the first time ever, in all of history, I agree with you. Thank you for finding that common ground. I appreciate how passionate you are although I know you are closet Tiger fan ; )
I probably should have re-phrased and put more blame on the portal vs NIL. That said, it's quite likely that a meager 'bread and circuses' mete-out back 10 years ago would have had kids asking a lot fewer questions to where the portal would have never been questioned. I think the uproar would have evolved into "these yearly stipends should be $100k not $50k" and the would have centered around that instead.
The portal and NIL issues got conflated as this all came to a head. They had to rule on both of them given the circumstances. A prescient and competent NCAA leader could have orchestrated a cleaner result. Obviously it's not that simple, but I just know it could have been done better that what is basically equivalent to every college football team turning into John Calipari's 5-star one and done recruiting class.
This post was edited on 12/30/25 at 5:29 pm
Posted on 12/30/25 at 5:30 pm to TriStateAreaFootball
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Don't get me wrong. I wish it was that simple.
They had a rule that was perfectly acceptable but lawyers managed to frick it all up. If a kid wanted to transfer immediately, he could play the next season at a FCS school. Oh no! The horrors of that. At least the athlete could still compete
Posted on 12/30/25 at 5:31 pm to Russianblue
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The NCAA could have solved NIL
Greed killed it. They had no problem taking money from networks in the 80s, 90s, & 00s to line their pockets, build facilities, and pay coaches amounts that at the time seemed absurd. All the while penalizing college kids for selling their autograph. They could have come up with something that helped everyone without having the courts dismantling the idea of amateur athletics. There are lessons to be learned from this, but no one will. They'll keep making the same mistakes and ruin other things we love.
Posted on 12/30/25 at 5:34 pm to Rex Feral
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They'll keep making the same mistakes and ruin other things we love.
Like what? To me, college athletics was the last bastion of both Southern and Conservative culture.
Not sure what else there is to ruin. Then again, I am negative.
Posted on 12/30/25 at 5:35 pm to TriStateAreaFootball
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However, it ain't gonna change without Supreme Court approval because limiting their transfers would limit their earnings. The sport is screwed at both ends.
Not allowing NIL to be tied to school attendance, and hence allowing buyouts for release of attendance contracts, is why we are here. And why they didn’t do that? Title IX
This post was edited on 12/30/25 at 5:39 pm
Posted on 12/30/25 at 5:35 pm to Rex Feral
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There are lessons to be learned from this, but no one will. They'll keep making the same mistakes and ruin other things we love.
Greed and unmitigated consumerism is what ruins a lot of shite that we care about. Not to get too philosophical in this thread, but humans will be the cause of our own demise at some point. Something about not learning from our past mistakes will wipe us out
Posted on 12/30/25 at 5:36 pm to TriStateAreaFootball
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However, it ain't gonna change without Supreme Court approval because limiting their transfers would limit their earnings.
Which is an absurd.
They aren’t entitled to a spot in ncaa athletics and the NCAA isn’t preventing them from competing professionally in an alternative league.
The rulings on this are asinine.
Posted on 12/30/25 at 5:37 pm to DeathByTossDive225
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So non-competes are fine for everyone else, but we can’t limit “amateur” football transfers tied to academic institutions
The one rule the NCAA pretends to have about NIL is that it cannot be tied to attendance to a school. It’s about that individuals worth as his own Name, Image, and Likeness completely separate from the school.
Posted on 12/30/25 at 5:39 pm to Russianblue
It would have taken one, and only one, student-athlete to decide that $30k a year was insufficient, and file a lawsuit.
Posted on 12/30/25 at 5:43 pm to TriStateAreaFootball
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Again, the Court precedent is that the NCAA would be acting as a monopoly that limits earnings if they did that.
Exactly
Thanks Republican Courts
This post was edited on 12/30/25 at 5:45 pm
Posted on 12/30/25 at 5:52 pm to Oilfieldbiology
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The one rule the NCAA pretends to have about NIL is that it cannot be tied to attendance to a school. It’s about that individuals worth as his own Name, Image, and Likeness completely separate from the school.
Such a sham. They’re clearly getting paid to play football at destination XYZ.
I think players should be compensated, but this entire landscape is comically absurd right now. I know I’m preaching to the choir, but JFC. Most incompetent institution I can think of.
Posted on 12/30/25 at 6:00 pm to TideSaint
To be fair, the NCAA would have had more time to set up guardrails for transfers if they had gotten ahead of NIL. Hell I go back 20 years ago when we should have known they’d lose. When the said Jeremy Bloom was ineligible when he was trying to fund his Olympic training for skiing, I knew the tide was turning on them. Someone was going to break the legal dam and it would be nothing but bad press
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