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Watching the pinstripe bowl, Clemson V Penn State

Posted on 12/27/25 at 12:19 pm
Posted by UncleRoll
Member since Sep 2025
318 posts
Posted on 12/27/25 at 12:19 pm
What in the hell has happened to Clemson? This is a total clown show. What a disaster.
Posted by Crimson Wraith
Member since Jan 2014
29379 posts
Posted on 12/27/25 at 12:20 pm to
Venables gone, not stealing signals.
Posted by StansberryRules
Member since Aug 2024
4415 posts
Posted on 12/27/25 at 12:21 pm to
Dabo hated the portal and NIL and refused to embrace it. Program immediately fell apart
Posted by UncleRoll
Member since Sep 2025
318 posts
Posted on 12/27/25 at 12:22 pm to
This doesn’t even remotely resemble Clemson from just a couple of years ago. How did Troy lose that game? This might be the worst Clemson team I’ve ever seen. Can Dabo survive this?
Posted by tBrand
Member since Oct 2022
3064 posts
Posted on 12/27/25 at 12:23 pm to
Dabo is a Mack Brown who's 2nd QB didn't go down in the title game.
Posted by TheHarahanian
Actually not Harahan as of 6/2023
Member since May 2017
23170 posts
Posted on 12/27/25 at 12:23 pm to

Dabo should be a legendary figure for Clemson fans, forever, but he’s hanging around long enough to tarnish his record and make the fans resent him.
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
20663 posts
Posted on 12/27/25 at 12:23 pm to
It’s so easy to forget week one we thought LSU-Clemson was a potential NC preview and that game was viewed as must see tv.

Turns out both teams just suck on offense and I’m not entirely sure how or why because on paper they should’ve been solid to good.
Posted by BearCrocs
Member since Aug 2013
8235 posts
Posted on 12/27/25 at 12:27 pm to
You can say the same about LSU - we have been objectively terrible lately, JD5 aside
Posted by genro
Member since Nov 2011
62299 posts
Posted on 12/27/25 at 12:28 pm to
Prime Dabo was way better than prime Mack
Clemmy went to 6 straight 4-team playoffs, and played in 4 natties in 5 years
Posted by Mutt Myers
Member since Jan 2024
450 posts
Posted on 12/27/25 at 12:28 pm to
Dabo got lazy and didn’t hire the best coaches he could get. It seems to happen pretty often in a coaching cycle.
Posted by tBrand
Member since Oct 2022
3064 posts
Posted on 12/27/25 at 12:32 pm to
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Prime Dabo was way better than prime Mack
Clemmy went to 6 straight 4-team playoffs, and played in 4 natties in 5 years

the 4 team playoff didn't exist when Mack Brown went on his run or he also would've went 4 times, probably more.
Posted by AHM21
Member since Feb 2008
30518 posts
Posted on 12/27/25 at 12:34 pm to
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Venables gone, not stealing signals.


This. Clemson with Venables + Watson and Lawrence will be their peak.

It’s all down hill from here.
Posted by Globetrotter747
Member since Sep 2017
5329 posts
Posted on 12/27/25 at 12:37 pm to
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Dabo hated the portal and NIL and refused to embrace it. Program immediately fell apart

He didn’t refuse to embrace a nine figure contract, though. You don’t get paid money like that to graduate 100 handpicked kids and teach them some life skills.

He needs to accept that he’s in the entertainment business and that the players are now getting their cut. And if he doesn’t like it or can’t embrace it, he can go coach high school or small college ball somewhere and make a lot less money and won’t have to worry about it.
Posted by bamarep
Member since Nov 2013
52376 posts
Posted on 12/27/25 at 12:40 pm to
Well said sir.
Posted by forkedintheroad
Member since Feb 2025
1579 posts
Posted on 12/27/25 at 12:41 pm to
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This doesn’t even remotely resemble Clemson from just a couple of years ago


Really?

2023 and 2025 teams have the same conf record.
Posted by genro
Member since Nov 2011
62299 posts
Posted on 12/27/25 at 12:46 pm to
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he also would've went 4 times, probably more.
Definitely not.
Between the two natty appearances Mack had multiple 3-loss regular seasons. He only had two other 1-loss regular seasons. So 4x max, spread over 7 years, with 3 loss seasons in the middle.
6 is in a row is way better
Posted by PappyGarcia
Member since Oct 2024
560 posts
Posted on 12/27/25 at 12:47 pm to
Funneling money through a megachurch to pay for big time recruits is no longer viable now that everyone can pay players.
Posted by prouddawg
Member since Sep 2024
7444 posts
Posted on 12/27/25 at 12:57 pm to
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You can say the same about LSU -


You’re down right now but you ain’t that down
Posted by RTRnFlorida
Member since Mar 2024
2603 posts
Posted on 12/27/25 at 1:00 pm to
Bigger question is how in the hell did it take a miracle for Indiana jones to beat Penn state
Posted by TheePalmetto
Member since Aug 2025
2061 posts
Posted on 12/27/25 at 1:25 pm to
That Newspring money ran out, Venables left, and their cheating got caught.

Other ACC programs brought in better coaches and talent.

This is who Clemson really is, don’t let a 5 year aberration fool you.
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