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Instead of the same ole doom and gloom. Let’s talk about style of play.

Posted on 11/29/25 at 7:37 am
Posted by TizzyT4theUofA
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Posted on 11/29/25 at 7:37 am
Why does CKD like to play games close? Almost every game this year we’ve played ball control and kept the number of possessions down. While that’s not really a bad idea against a team that is of equal or more talent, we let teams with less talent hang around. Why does CKD not go for the kill shot? Tonight would be a great time to do it.
Posted by Night Vision
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Posted on 11/29/25 at 7:39 am to
At the first of the year the defense was not playing well. Once the defense improved the offense and special teams started stinking it up.
Posted by TizzyT4theUofA
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Posted on 11/29/25 at 7:50 am to
I agree but this has been CKD’s style since at least Washington. I honestly have no idea what he was like prior to UW.
Posted by UltimaParadox
North Carolina
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Posted on 11/29/25 at 7:55 am to
The plays are there to open the game up. The offense has not been hitting them in the second half of the season.

Just zero explosive plays even though the guys are open

Every game is close if you can only score around 24 points a game
This post was edited on 11/29/25 at 7:57 am
Posted by ghoast
Member since Jul 2020
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Posted on 11/29/25 at 7:55 am to
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special teams started stinking it up.


Worries me more than the offense at this point… unless we start with trickery, then I’ll melt…
Posted by tide06
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Posted on 11/29/25 at 7:58 am to
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Almost every game this year we’ve played ball control and kept the number of possessions down.

Other offensive coaches have discussed how doing that provides an advantage to the offense.

The OC provokes the defense by rapidly getting to the line and showing a look. The defense then responds to that look in preparation for the snap.

The OC with the advantage of the helmet mic can then analyze personnel and defensive formation to identify what weaknesses may exist and provide a second play call and protection adjustment to the QB that provides every possible schematic and matchup advantage to the offense.

In other words they do it to exploit the modern game rules to provide a massive advantage to the team while spoon feeding the QB with adjustments.
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While that’s not really a bad idea against a team that is of equal or more talent, we let teams with less talent hang around.

Same principal applies to bad teams as good teams.
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Why does CKD not go for the kill shot?

We run more trick plays and odd schemes than anyone in the country, I just don’t follow here.
Posted by crimsontater
Trenton GA
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 11/29/25 at 8:03 am to
its frustrating to watch this team not be able to put teams(plural) away. idk if it's by accident or design. with all the offensive talent and yet struggles to score 21+ points. when they have the lead in the second half its as if they just quit trying to score. for those of us that watched the stallings era, this is a familiar scene. one preferably abandoned for kill shots.
Posted by TizzyT4theUofA
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Posted on 11/29/25 at 8:08 am to
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We run more trick plays and odd schemes than anyone in the country, I just don’t follow here.


When I say kill shot, I’m not talking about a specific play. I’m talking about tempo. Almost every game, at the end of the first half with play with tempo and march down the field with ease. That’s usually the only time we see that type of pace.

For example, at the end of the OU game we wasted 7-8 minutes because we didn’t want OU to get the ball again. Everything is clearer in hindsight but we may could have had another opportunity if we weren’t draining the clock.

Posted by Diego Ricardo
Alabama
Member since Dec 2020
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Posted on 11/29/25 at 8:11 am to
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Why does CKD like to play games close? Almost every game this year we’ve played ball control and kept the number of possessions down. While that’s not really a bad idea against a team that is of equal or more talent, we let teams with less talent hang around. Why does CKD not go for the kill shot? Tonight would be a great time to do it.



He doesn't like playing games close. He's trying to play complimentary football because our defense struggled in the first game and decided to use the offense like a defense with ball control. Our problem is DeBoer teams through almost two seasons make too many mistakes to effectively execute that strategy en route to a comfortable win. You can't be a team that wants to milk the clock from the opening kickoff and win comfortably when your QB has been strip sack fumbled in 5 straight conference games and your kicking battery causes long drives to come up empty despite having very makable tries.

We have way too many possessions where we gobble up 5-7 minutes of the game and come away empty handed. We have way too many turnovers that give the opponent an extra possession in a game where we're trying to decrease possessions as an overarching strategy.

Basically, DeBoer teams through two seasons have been too fricking sloppy on offense. That is the overwhelming reason we've had close games that shouldn't have been or lost them outright with this regime. I know this is going to make some super homers very upset but it is the truth of the matter. DeBoer's offense has lost us more games than the defense led by Wommack. He's an offensive guy and these problems doubly fall on him since he's the head coach too.
Posted by Syd
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 11/29/25 at 8:12 am to
It is a group of things, our scheme of changing the play, using clock to do so, the other team adjusting and we don't, (how many points have we scored in the third quarter?) we should always take the ball if we win the coin toss because we usually are three and out after half.

The new clock that doesn't stop a lot is also a small reason we have fewer possessions.
Posted by TizzyT4theUofA
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Posted on 11/29/25 at 8:14 am to
I guess the best way to say it is, instead of playing to win, we play to not lose.
Posted by YStar
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Posted on 11/29/25 at 8:18 am to
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The plays are there to open the game up. The offense has not been hitting them in the second half of the season.


Perfectly said. It's the reason why we need Ty Simpson to get back to being the guy he was.

We can even beat UGA again if he is back mentally where he needs to be.

They are there... he just misses them or doesn't throw them at all.
Posted by Diego Ricardo
Alabama
Member since Dec 2020
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Posted on 11/29/25 at 8:19 am to
UGA will blitz the shite out of us like they did in the rematch v. Bryce Young.

Smart is always a bit hesitant to go aggressive against us imo. With everything on the line, I think he's going to throw every zone blitz in the playbook at us.
Posted by bamatide07
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 11/29/25 at 8:20 am to
He has to because they don’t have a dominant pass rusher on this team.
Posted by LovetheLord
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Posted on 11/29/25 at 8:40 am to
He’s probably found it works well.
Posted by wm72
Brooklyn
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Posted on 11/29/25 at 9:36 am to
We definitely use a lot of clock on offense but the main reason most of our SEC games were close was the offense scoring around 24 points and also setting up the other team for 13 with a short field.

And having way too many bunches of 3 and outs.

Most of the close games KDB's Washington team played his last season were on the road against Top 25 teams. It's how he got that crazy winning % against Top25 opponents.


Posted by Pastor Mike
Florida
Member since Dec 2020
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Posted on 11/29/25 at 9:55 am to
Did you get to watch the College Football Nerds take on this game? They said the exact same thing you are saying
Posted by bamabonners
Alabama
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 11/29/25 at 9:59 am to
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Basically, DeBoer teams through two seasons have been too fricking sloppy on offense. That is the overwhelming reason we've had close games that shouldn't have been or lost them outright with this regime. I know this is going to make some super homers very upset but it is the truth of the matter. DeBoer's offense has lost us more games than the defense led by Wommack. He's an offensive guy and these problems doubly fall on him since he's the head coach too.


100% correct

I don't like the doom and gloom either, but we're just a sloppy offense with no identity. Perhaps Grubb is overrated.

I just want this team to get off the bus today and look like a team prepared to play in a road game that matters.
This post was edited on 11/29/25 at 10:03 am
Posted by scottydoesntknow
Member since Nov 2023
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Posted on 11/29/25 at 10:00 am to
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Why does CKD like to play games close


I think an answer to this is that Bama is playing good defenses week in and week out. Even trash teams like South Carolina...have top 10 NFL pics on Dline

Another answer is that the talent gap is minimal. Bama has good recruiting, no doubt, but there is a mismatch with scheme and personnel, particularly on Oline and RB. These other teams can cherry pick players that fit their systems well. Bama isnt leagues better than any SEC team played this season
Posted by PuertoRicanBlaze
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Posted on 11/29/25 at 10:01 am to
I get your point but in Saban's last season, he played almost every game close. Aggy played almost every game kinda close. Kirby hasn't really been lighting teams up either anymore with the exception of Texas and MSU.
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