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We need to see TY hit some deep balls tomorrow.

Posted on 9/5/25 at 8:30 am
Posted by crimsoncoded94
Georgiana
Member since Aug 2025
1360 posts
Posted on 9/5/25 at 8:30 am
If we can't accomplish that against ULM it means hes trigger shy and we are in a tough season.

If he can't move the balls consistently on ULM in the first half do we bring in Mack?
Posted by RolltidePA
North Carolina
Member since Dec 2010
5099 posts
Posted on 9/5/25 at 8:46 am to
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We need to see TY hit some deep balls tomorrow.

If we can't accomplish that against ULM it means hes trigger shy and we are in a tough season.



Deep balls aren't the way you judge if someone is trigger shy. Those are usually somewhat predetermined off of iso looks and how the safeties are aligned and slower developing. Deep balls are easier for someone who is struggling to read progressions and play on time. It's why Milroe was so damn good with them.

Trigger shy is when on short and intermediate routes aren't being read quickly and the ball isn't coming out accurately in 2 seconds or less. If he is hesitant to trust the read and deliver a slant, seam, digs and curls fast and on time, then that's a guy who doesn't trust what he's seeing and playing behind the clock.
This post was edited on 9/5/25 at 8:48 am
Posted by YStar
Member since Mar 2013
19391 posts
Posted on 9/5/25 at 8:53 am to
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Deep balls are easier for someone who is struggling to read progressions and play on time. It's why Milroe was so damn good with them.


I disgaree here.

Ty struggles with deep balls because he is late to throw them and they end up behind the WR as contested balls.

Milroe just heaved things. He has a rocket arm so sometimes it worked and sometimes it didn't.

I will say that when FSU realized Ty Simpson struggled to throw vertically, they basically moved their entire defense up and created a shell. It's why I have said if KDB were actually smart he would open the QB position up to Mack and Keelon, give them some significant reps against a bad team (like Saban did with USF) and see if we have another direction we can go or if we have to find a way to scheme better with Ty's shortcomings
Posted by RolltidePA
North Carolina
Member since Dec 2010
5099 posts
Posted on 9/5/25 at 8:56 am to
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Ty struggles with deep balls because he is late to throw them and they end up behind the WR as contested balls.



It seems like it's just boiling down that Ty just needs to play on time with all his reads and throws.
Posted by YStar
Member since Mar 2013
19391 posts
Posted on 9/5/25 at 9:04 am to
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It seems like it's just boiling down that Ty just needs to play on time with all his reads and throws.


Yeah that is what KDB said in his press conference.

However what I didn't like was how Wommack tried to conflate that to being the defense problem as well. Nope!


Ty Simpson being late on reads killed a couple TD passes and put him in sack situations. Only #74 was horrible pass blocking. Everyone else was decent. Ty just held on to the ball and when he saw pressure he did the same thing he would do in high-school; run backward which destroys you protection.
Posted by Bamadiver
Member since Jun 2014
3962 posts
Posted on 9/5/25 at 9:04 am to
When we start showing any consistency at the line of scrimmage I'll start looking at everything else.
Posted by RolltidePA
North Carolina
Member since Dec 2010
5099 posts
Posted on 9/5/25 at 9:07 am to
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Ty just held on to the ball and when he saw pressure he did the same thing he would do in high-school; run backward which destroys you protection.


Nothing quite as fun as watching someone back themselves into the rushing lanes.
Posted by JIB
Member since Sep 2013
2438 posts
Posted on 9/5/25 at 11:07 am to
He threw a prayer last year to Cuevas against Mercer for about 50 yards.
Posted by JoseyWalesTheOutlaw
In The Ham
Member since Nov 2017
12770 posts
Posted on 9/5/25 at 11:43 am to
If you believe Ty is the biggest problem on this team, then your color blind.
Posted by Bamafig
Member since Nov 2018
5891 posts
Posted on 9/5/25 at 12:27 pm to
We were set to have one big play deep when his arm was hit. RW was wide open and would only have one to beat and I like his chances. It might not have won the game but it certainly could have changed the momentum. Good route, good read, bad protection (probably 74’s guy).
Posted by Sl0thstronautEsq
Member since Aug 2018
16479 posts
Posted on 9/5/25 at 12:39 pm to
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We need to see TY hit some deep balls tomorrow.


frick that, I want some RPO slants. With the talent we have at WR, those dudes should be able to turn anything into an explosive play (assuming they catch the ball )
Posted by crimsoncoded94
Georgiana
Member since Aug 2025
1360 posts
Posted on 9/5/25 at 12:45 pm to
If we can't throw deep we won't beat anyone without a running game.

Posted by antibarner
Member since Oct 2009
26093 posts
Posted on 9/5/25 at 3:55 pm to
Last week they tackled our receivers when they went deep
Posted by hwnd
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Member since Apr 2010
9724 posts
Posted on 9/5/25 at 4:58 pm to
When you rewatch film of Ty, he actually made some good decisions and threw the ball pretty well. His deep shots left a lot to be desired, but I noticed on one of them, the LT gave him no time to let the receiver get open.

A couple of other times, Formby(?) just completely whiffed and let someone run loose, and that disrupted another deeper pass.

I don’t know. It’s hard to really see what Ty is capable of when the line just collapses.
Posted by YStar
Member since Mar 2013
19391 posts
Posted on 9/5/25 at 6:24 pm to
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We were set to have one big play deep when his arm was hit.


He missed Rico on a wide open TD because he held the ball too long.

That was the stuff KDB was referencing when he told the media, Ty needs to go with his reads and let the ball go.

He is literally waiting till he sees the white of eyes to throw. By then the ball is late.
Posted by CrimsonBoz
Member since Sep 2014
20048 posts
Posted on 9/5/25 at 6:31 pm to
Bingo.

He can do it, he just has to do it. If you catch my drift.
Posted by BFANLC
The Beach
Member since Oct 2007
23147 posts
Posted on 9/5/25 at 6:47 pm to
Anyone see any sort of kiffin play calling Saturday? Where a play set up another play call, such as a homerun throw? I didn't really see anything like that Saturday
This post was edited on 9/5/25 at 7:29 pm
Posted by GeekedUp
Virginia
Member since Jun 2009
3056 posts
Posted on 9/5/25 at 7:38 pm to
Lot of interesting opinions here. I just know the game was moving fast for him and it was clunky all around. Have no idea if he can throw a deep ball to stretch the field.
Posted by labamafan
Prairieville
Member since Jan 2007
26608 posts
Posted on 9/5/25 at 8:32 pm to
Of the dumb posts in this board this ranks top three. Ty just needed he’s OL to perform in a manner matching their rankings. He needed his WR to perform in a manner matching their rankings and a senior laden defense to actually get stops.
Posted by tattoo
Fantasy Island
Member since Oct 2017
1987 posts
Posted on 9/6/25 at 7:29 am to
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If you believe that Ty is the biggest problem on this team then you’re color blind

You are right that Ty is not the biggest problem on this team. Multiple coaching issues are greater, as well as other player issues are as great or greater but Ty is definitely a problem, especially because he is the QB.

On the positive side of the ledger, and it’s important, he cares and gave great effort. Though not as fast or strong as Milroe, he is much more elusive when scrambling. He’s a tough and willing runner. He wants to be careful with the ball.

His constant lateness with pulling the trigger is a major issue. Don’t know how much was that he had trouble reading the defense or nerves or what. His lack of poise is another big issue that permeates the offense and radiates to the defense. When scrambling, he made multiple bad decisions on whether to run or pass. His arm is not strong enough to throw accurately when scrambling. He displayed little touch on his passes. He lost a fumble that fortuitously ended in the possession of Brailsford, and a couple of balls that DBs couldn’t handle, i.e., he could have easily had two or three turnovers. He sometimes bails from the pocket too quickly. Etc.

IMO, Alabama has little chance vs good teams with him at QB unless he dramatically improves, which is possible. But some of these issues have accompanied him since he arrived on campus. We can see now why Milroe, with his shortcomings, was chosen over him by two coaching staffs.

Playing QB at this level is very difficult. A small % of people on this earth can do it. You have to make difficult decisions often in less than a second. Then have the skill to throw the ball to a quickly moving target 60 yards away within a tiny window. And so on. All with the specter of a 320lb man moving at great speed being within a yard of taking your head off. Far less than 1% of the people watching the games can do it. That’s why a few of them make ~$60 mil a year. Ty seems a little short at this time of being able to do it with any consistency. It’s also likely that his lack of poise is contributing to the team’s nervousness.

Don’t know the current overall status of Russell, but he has the reputation of “just knowing” when and where to go with the ball and the ability to deliver it. If he is anywhere close to ready it would be worth a look. Maybe Mack too.

I know the Ty supporters hate posts like this but it is just an honest opinion. Maybe Ty can improve enough. If not, I hate it for him because he obviously cares about achieving his goal.
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