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Cam Newton gets it .. stop hiring coaches that don't understand the sec
Posted on 9/1/25 at 10:12 pm
Posted on 9/1/25 at 10:12 pm
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“Stop hiring coaches that don’t understand the value, the marketability, the expectations of what it’s like to play and coach in the SEC,” he said on Monday’s edition of “First Take” on ESPN.
“Stop hiring coaches that don’t understand the value, the marketability, the expectations of what it’s like to play and coach in the SEC,” he said on Monday’s edition of “First Take” on ESPN.
This post was edited on 9/1/25 at 10:13 pm
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Posted on 9/1/25 at 10:16 pm to bamabonners
I actually agree with this fig for once. If you want to keep losing, keep the very obvious fish out of water.
Posted on 9/1/25 at 10:19 pm to bamabonners
I saw that. He was absolutely on target.
Posted on 9/1/25 at 10:36 pm to InkStainedWretch
He may dress like a grandmother, but he isn’t wrong. If your HC doesn’t have an SEC background, the staff and coordinators better have deep experience there.
Only full outsider I’ve seen dominate in the conference was Urban. And that guy is a pure psycho who spent time at Notre Dame and Ohio State, so he understood big time stakes.
Only full outsider I’ve seen dominate in the conference was Urban. And that guy is a pure psycho who spent time at Notre Dame and Ohio State, so he understood big time stakes.
Posted on 9/1/25 at 11:02 pm to bamabonners
That idiot sees it but not Greg Goober Byrne.
Posted on 9/1/25 at 11:11 pm to bamabonners
So Nick Saban didn’t come from Michigan State to create the modern LSU program? Brian Kelly has done ok. Lane Kiffin was doing well as an outsider at Tennessee. South Carolina seems happy with Beamer.
This is a silly take from Cam which isn’t surprising. Good coaches are good coaches. DeBoer is honestly just not as accomplished as it seemed in retrospect, but it has nothing to do with SEC.
This is a silly take from Cam which isn’t surprising. Good coaches are good coaches. DeBoer is honestly just not as accomplished as it seemed in retrospect, but it has nothing to do with SEC.
Posted on 9/1/25 at 11:23 pm to Sandkhan
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So Nick Saban didn’t come from Michigan State to create the modern LSU program? Brian Kelly has done ok. Lane Kiffin was doing well as an outsider at Tennessee. South Carolina seems happy with Beamer.
Those guys were familiar and had experience with big time college football. At least Saban hired coordinators that had SEC experience.Saban was the GOAT though. He would’ve won anywhere because that’s just who he is.
Posted on 9/1/25 at 11:26 pm to bamabonners
We watched this exact experiment fail miserably at Auburn, and then immediately raced out and did the exact same thing even though the heart of the SEC - Kiff the coed slayer - was begging for the job.
Ooof
Ooof
Posted on 9/1/25 at 11:27 pm to bamabonners
Such a dumb hot take. Saban and Meyer both left lesser programs with no SEC experience and won a natty at LSU and Florida. Les Miles had LSU as a perennial championship contender. Josh Heupel was in the playoffs last year.
Deboer might not be the guy, but it doesn’t take some god given birthright to be able to excel in this league.
Deboer might not be the guy, but it doesn’t take some god given birthright to be able to excel in this league.
Posted on 9/1/25 at 11:32 pm to FairhopeTider
Nick Saban came from Michigan State. That’s not a better program than UW and it’s easy to say “he’s the goat” 30 years after he was hired at LSU.
Kiffin was being run out of Oakland.
I’m not defending the DeBoer hire. It looks bad currently. But I’m saying it’s a lazy take to say he’s failing because he doesn’t understand the SEC. The coaching has just been bad.
Kiffin was being run out of Oakland.
I’m not defending the DeBoer hire. It looks bad currently. But I’m saying it’s a lazy take to say he’s failing because he doesn’t understand the SEC. The coaching has just been bad.
This post was edited on 9/1/25 at 11:36 pm
Posted on 9/1/25 at 11:37 pm to Sandkhan
Exactly. And the SEC isn't the monster it was in the mid to late aughts. We're barely over .500 in bowl games this decade, not that I give a shite because frick this conference.
Posted on 9/1/25 at 11:46 pm to Sandkhan
Nick Saban had coached in the NFL. Kiffin had been at USC during its prime and grew up around the game with his dad. Even then, he wasn’t the coach he is today until he spent time under Saban at Alabama. Stallings was an assistant at UA and the culture wasn’t foreign to him. He was a Junction boy for God’s sake.
Are there exceptions, sure but all the examples you listed either had SEC experience or could substitute it with high level experience elsewhere. DeBoer didn’t even bother hiring a coordinator with SEC experience. We basically got Indiana’s staff.
The real lesson is don’t hire someone that hasn’t sustained success elsewhere. DeBoer had two years at Fresno and then two years at UW. At least hire a guy who has won with his own players.
Are there exceptions, sure but all the examples you listed either had SEC experience or could substitute it with high level experience elsewhere. DeBoer didn’t even bother hiring a coordinator with SEC experience. We basically got Indiana’s staff.
The real lesson is don’t hire someone that hasn’t sustained success elsewhere. DeBoer had two years at Fresno and then two years at UW. At least hire a guy who has won with his own players.
This post was edited on 9/1/25 at 11:48 pm
Posted on 9/2/25 at 12:01 am to bamabonners
Low IQ take. There's been plenty of coaches with no SEC experience have success. Plenty of successful coaches now in the SEC with little to no SEC experience beforehand.
Posted on 9/2/25 at 6:10 am to bamabonners
I think SEC experience would be helpful but not necessarily a deal breaker if they don't have it. Coach Bryant used to say winners come in all kinds of sizes and colors. Same thing with coaches.
That said, whoever Alabama eventually decides on needs to come in with eyes WIDE OPEN and not just see the $$$$$. Must play defense and must stop the run. Must take ALL the games seriously.
That said, whoever Alabama eventually decides on needs to come in with eyes WIDE OPEN and not just see the $$$$$. Must play defense and must stop the run. Must take ALL the games seriously.
Posted on 9/2/25 at 6:41 am to bamabonners
The KDB hire would work if he hired a DC with heavy SEC experience to "head coach" his defense.
Instead he hired his buddy who doesn't have the personality or intellect to gameplan correctly, get his players to buy in, etc.
Instead he hired his buddy who doesn't have the personality or intellect to gameplan correctly, get his players to buy in, etc.
Posted on 9/2/25 at 7:13 am to bamabonners
So with this thinking, we limit our choices to pretty much Lanning and Kiffin. Both of which factions of the fanbase were actively against. Who would be option 3 if those 2 turned us down?
This post was edited on 9/2/25 at 7:16 am
Posted on 9/2/25 at 7:19 am to bamabonners
It’s not about understanding the SEC. It’s about understanding what it takes to win week to week when the competition on the field and scheming on the sidelines is among the best in the nation. DeBoer’s teams in Washington struggled against inferior competition in a conference disinterested in football. Remember, 2 of his 5 losses are out of conference but to schools who take their football seriously. This is not a conference based problem exclusively though operating like they do is death in this conference.
The coaches don’t take every opponent seriously so their players don’t take every opponent seriously.
The coaches don’t take every opponent seriously so their players don’t take every opponent seriously.
This post was edited on 9/2/25 at 7:21 am
Posted on 9/2/25 at 7:35 am to AlterDWI
But those coaches had a clue what to expect in the SEC. DeBoer didn’t.
Posted on 9/2/25 at 7:35 am to bamabonners
Kane Womack played in the SEC. His dad coached in the SEC.
Posted on 9/2/25 at 7:39 am to FairhopeTider
These are Cam’s exact words:
“Stop hiring coaches that don’t understand the value, the marketability, the expectations of what it’s like to play and coach in the SEC. We’ve seen it happen too many times. Coach (Kalen) DeBoer is great coach. In Washington, homey, it’s a little different than T-Town, dawg. The level of expectation is almost crippling.”
“Stop hiring coaches that don’t understand the value, the marketability, the expectations of what it’s like to play and coach in the SEC. We’ve seen it happen too many times. Coach (Kalen) DeBoer is great coach. In Washington, homey, it’s a little different than T-Town, dawg. The level of expectation is almost crippling.”
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