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Film study of Bama defense
Posted on 8/8/25 at 10:24 am
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Posted on 8/8/25 at 12:30 pm to TizzyT4theUofA
Cool, thanks for posting. I like this guy's breakdowns.
As shitty as the bowl game was, our defense played with their hair on fire, and saved us from complete and total embarrassment. Game very well could have gotten super ugly if not for them.
As shitty as the bowl game was, our defense played with their hair on fire, and saved us from complete and total embarrassment. Game very well could have gotten super ugly if not for them.
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Posted on 8/8/25 at 12:52 pm to Funky Tide 8
Yep. They kept us in it until the very end and gave us a chance to win.
Posted on 8/8/25 at 1:18 pm to Funky Tide 8
We are going to miss Campbell.
Posted on 8/8/25 at 1:35 pm to collegefootballisbroken
Sounds like the defense was just too predictable last season. I wonder if it was Womack trying to simplify a little too much ?
Posted on 8/8/25 at 2:03 pm to Chris ALL Capps
Was why Vandy and Oklahoma ran all over us. A QB that can run read option well will tear his defense apart.
This is why we need our Dline to be more destructive on their own.
This is why we need our Dline to be more destructive on their own.
Posted on 8/8/25 at 2:21 pm to collegefootballisbroken
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Was why Vandy and Oklahoma ran all over us. A QB that can run read option well will tear his defense apart.
This is why we need our Dline to be more destructive on their own.
Vandy ran for 166 yards, but they had 54 carries, so only 3.1 yards per carry. There were no sacks. They didn't run all over Bama. They were just really efficient.
Oklahoma was more successful on the ground for sure. Part of that was just committing to the run and part of that was the defense being gassed from a really inefficient offense.
Posted on 8/8/25 at 2:30 pm to JIB
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Vandy ran for 166 yards, but they had 54 carries, so only 3.1 yards per carry. There were no sacks. They didn't run all over Bama. They were just really efficient.
yeah it just seemed like any time they needed to convert they did just that.
Posted on 8/8/25 at 6:26 pm to TizzyT4theUofA
Wommack gotta do better.
Posted on 8/8/25 at 7:29 pm to collegefootballisbroken
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A QB that can run read option well will tear his defense apart.
Did you say this about Saban and Kirby after Ga Southern racked up 300+ on the ground against us in 2011 too?
Posted on 8/8/25 at 10:03 pm to Opry
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Wommack gotta do better.
Hang on here. Our defense was top 10 last year in points per game, points per play, and yards per play. All this in a transition year AND the first year under a new defensive coordinator. And you say Wommack has to do BETTER?
If you were given $100 million you'd probably complain about the tax bite.
Posted on 8/8/25 at 10:37 pm to Sauron
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And you say Wommack has to do BETTER?
I don’t know if you watched the video. If you didn’t, he’s just saying Wommack needs to do better changing up the looks. In the bowl game we had the same look pre snap the entire game.
Posted on 8/9/25 at 12:31 am to Sauron
He had a top 3 defense on talent alone.
If you're getting your arse outcoached as badly as he did in multiple games, largely because you change schemes or adjust at the pace of a snail, then you need to do a better job.
If it was Saban, he would've been demoted like Tosh after Oklahoma
If you're getting your arse outcoached as badly as he did in multiple games, largely because you change schemes or adjust at the pace of a snail, then you need to do a better job.
If it was Saban, he would've been demoted like Tosh after Oklahoma
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Posted on 8/9/25 at 6:21 am to UhOhOreo
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He had a top 3 defense on talent alone. If you're getting your arse outcoached as badly as he did in multiple games, largely because you change schemes or adjust at the pace of a snail, then you need to do a better job. If it was Saban, he would've been demoted like Tosh after Oklahoma
Like he demoted Pete Golden???
Kane wasn’t perfect and the defense had a couple bad games but the defense played better than most would have expected.. and will be really good this year.. but you already know that
Posted on 8/9/25 at 6:30 am to UhOhOreo
I’d dispute the idea that we had top 3 talent on defense. A lot of our returning interior DL talent wasn’t ideal fit. A starting NT from 2023 transferred out mid season because he wasn’t playing. The edge rushers struggled to make an impact in many games and the most veteran edge rusher was injured mid season too. Almost the entire starting secondary from 2023 was replaced due to draft and transfers.
Wommack admitted mid season that returning to play calling on defense after being a head coach was an issue early in the season. Additionally they silently made staffing tweaks in-season too. The safety coach’s role was reduced and an off-field coach was made the ILB coach at some point after the Vanderbilt game.
Really, after the Vandy game I thought our defense played well enough to let the offense win every game. Even against OU, that was a team playing essentially a different offense coming off a bye week I believe. The only reason that maneuver worked was because of the 3 and outs and turnovers by our offense.
Wommack admitted mid season that returning to play calling on defense after being a head coach was an issue early in the season. Additionally they silently made staffing tweaks in-season too. The safety coach’s role was reduced and an off-field coach was made the ILB coach at some point after the Vanderbilt game.
Really, after the Vandy game I thought our defense played well enough to let the offense win every game. Even against OU, that was a team playing essentially a different offense coming off a bye week I believe. The only reason that maneuver worked was because of the 3 and outs and turnovers by our offense.
Posted on 8/9/25 at 7:32 am to Opry
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Wommack gotta do better.
Wommack did fine last season
Posted on 8/9/25 at 7:39 am to Diego Ricardo
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Additionally they silently made staffing tweaks in-season too. The safety coach’s role was reduced and an off-field coach was made the ILB coach at some point after the Vanderbilt game.
I’ll add on to my point here: DeBoer and Wommack aren’t dim. We lost the Vandy game because our backers and safeties were lost most of the afternoon. I believe Linguist took on more duties with the safeties and Chuck Morrell got elevated to on-field for the ILBs. The dividends were almost immediate. Campbell in particular seemed to blossom into the 1st rounder he became.
This post was edited on 8/9/25 at 7:40 am
Posted on 8/9/25 at 7:46 am to Diego Ricardo
I think his base scheme can be effective against most offenses.
My primary critique, which was shared by many guys like Cole Cubelic was that he was deadly stubborn about making schematic adjustments against schemes that demanded it (Vandy, OU) and was incredibly predictable in terms of some of his in game repetitive calls.
Against power run / pseudo veer or option teams like Vandy and OU who don’t have a vertical passing game you just cannot ask your linebackers to play the entire game with three DL the entire game against jumbo sets.
It forces your LBs, no matter how talented, to deal with pulling guards and tackles often 2-3 yards downfield giving them exactly what they want in a matchup where they were clearly outmatched talent wise.
Mark my words, if he doesn’t put extra down lineman on the field against Malzahn / FSU with a mobile QB they are going to grind clock on us and shorten the game just like we saw last year. Just be a little multiple when the other team forces it is all im asking. It’s a base scheme not a suicide pact.
As to the repetitive calls just watch the film guy linked above. Michigan had a putrid offense, yet at times was able to move the ball. The reason was we were running the same double inside blitz most of the game.
Part of that is schematic because he had a LB when most teams would’ve had an extra DL against their offense, but by just running him at the 1 gap and pairing it with a another guy doing the same at the other gap you’re begging the OC to flood the area behind it for easy looks or suck those guys inside while running option looks outside with a numeric advantage.
Bottom line, the scheme can work, but it has to be less predictable and absolutely can’t be what we run in all situations or by definition we will be in numeric disadvantages when we have no reason to be.
My primary critique, which was shared by many guys like Cole Cubelic was that he was deadly stubborn about making schematic adjustments against schemes that demanded it (Vandy, OU) and was incredibly predictable in terms of some of his in game repetitive calls.
Against power run / pseudo veer or option teams like Vandy and OU who don’t have a vertical passing game you just cannot ask your linebackers to play the entire game with three DL the entire game against jumbo sets.
It forces your LBs, no matter how talented, to deal with pulling guards and tackles often 2-3 yards downfield giving them exactly what they want in a matchup where they were clearly outmatched talent wise.
Mark my words, if he doesn’t put extra down lineman on the field against Malzahn / FSU with a mobile QB they are going to grind clock on us and shorten the game just like we saw last year. Just be a little multiple when the other team forces it is all im asking. It’s a base scheme not a suicide pact.
As to the repetitive calls just watch the film guy linked above. Michigan had a putrid offense, yet at times was able to move the ball. The reason was we were running the same double inside blitz most of the game.
Part of that is schematic because he had a LB when most teams would’ve had an extra DL against their offense, but by just running him at the 1 gap and pairing it with a another guy doing the same at the other gap you’re begging the OC to flood the area behind it for easy looks or suck those guys inside while running option looks outside with a numeric advantage.
Bottom line, the scheme can work, but it has to be less predictable and absolutely can’t be what we run in all situations or by definition we will be in numeric disadvantages when we have no reason to be.
Posted on 8/9/25 at 7:55 am to tide06
Michigan really didn’t move the ball man…. They had 190 yards of offense for 2.9 yards per play.
Vandy was an absolute embarrassment but defense 100% got better after.
People love to bring that game up but don’t bring up how Alabama SHUT DOWN Lsu.
Vandy was an absolute embarrassment but defense 100% got better after.
People love to bring that game up but don’t bring up how Alabama SHUT DOWN Lsu.
Posted on 8/9/25 at 8:38 am to Cskelt20
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Michigan really didn’t move the ball man…. They had 190 yards of offense for 2.9 yards per play.
UM was a horrible offense with a backup QB at that point.
My critique wasn’t that they were effective, it was that due to predictability they were more effective than they should’ve been. If you want to compete for championships your coaches have to be creating schematic advantages rather than disadvantages and anyone watching that film knows where our team was on that day.
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Vandy was an absolute embarrassment but defense 100% got better after.
We were better until we played another team who watched that film (OU) and again drastically outperformed what they should’ve had against us while chewing first downs because of bad schematic decisions from the coaches.
I’m sorry, but it was borderline coaching malpractice and showed that we hadn’t learned anything from Vandy about how to defend that look, we had just been playing teams who weren’t interested in using it against us.
We lost that game because of Milroe, but their offense again vastly overachieved relative to their talent because we were putting our defense in schematic and numeric disadvantages all day allowing them to convert first downs and eat clock.
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People love to bring that game up but don’t bring up how Alabama SHUT DOWN Lsu.
I would’ve paid good money to watch Nussmeier run the Diego Pavia / NM St offense, but our base scheme was very good against the Brian Kelly passing offense. Zero complaints there from me.
Our issues defensively were basically limited to one bad half against UGA, a lot of blown coverages from the secondary early due to risk taking and what amounted to a failure to be adaptable against Vandy and OU relative to a particular offensive look.
I believe with a little more experience from the players in the system and some adaptability in scheme calls we are a top 3 FEI defense nationally this year.
This post was edited on 8/9/25 at 11:35 am
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