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NET Ratings (Updated 2/12)

Posted on 2/12/25 at 7:51 am
Posted by joshnorris14
Florida
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Posted on 2/12/25 at 7:51 am
1. Auburn
4. Florida
5. Tennessee
6. Alabama
12. Texas A&M
15. Kentucky
21. Ole Miss
22. Missouri
30. Mississippi State
33. Texas
35. Georgia
41. Arkansas
42. Vanderbilt
44. Oklahoma
79. LSU
89. South Carolina

Posted by WildcatMike
Lexington, KY
Member since Dec 2005
43167 posts
Posted on 2/12/25 at 7:53 am to
UGA and Arkansas bubble
Posted by LSUTigresFan
SE Louisiana to Austin (Texas Ex)
Member since Mar 2013
4777 posts
Posted on 2/12/25 at 7:54 am to
Texas way too high.
Posted by JayAg
Member since Jun 2021
14323 posts
Posted on 2/12/25 at 8:06 am to
The announcer during our game said he would not be surprised if 10 to 13 SEC teams go dancing. That’s absurd.
Posted by momentoftruth87
Your mom
Member since Oct 2013
84089 posts
Posted on 2/12/25 at 8:12 am to
UGA will be out and Arkansas makes it in.
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
44972 posts
Posted on 2/12/25 at 8:18 am to
Bama only 6th?
Posted by WildcatMike
Lexington, KY
Member since Dec 2005
43167 posts
Posted on 2/12/25 at 8:21 am to
quote:

momentoftruth87


Better get some better wins
Posted by PearlPride34
Member since Jan 2025
10 posts
Posted on 2/12/25 at 8:25 am to
10 for sure will. I'd even say 11. 12 or 13 is possible but the problem is the the top few teams have been feasting on the teams in the 8-14 range and eating them alive. 15 of the 16 SEC teams had above average nonconference resumes but when you go 6-12 in league play it's just tough to get in the tourney
Posted by Glorious
Mobile
Member since Aug 2014
25546 posts
Posted on 2/12/25 at 8:27 am to
NET when Tennessee loses again, but played good defense
Posted by TideCPA
Member since Jan 2012
12174 posts
Posted on 2/12/25 at 8:28 am to
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NET when Tennessee loses again, but played good defense
Not sure how or why they claim to factor in road wins and W/L. It's just a copy-paste from KenPom. There's almost nothing Houston or Tennessee could do at this point to finish the season outside the top 10 in NET.
Posted by Glorious
Mobile
Member since Aug 2014
25546 posts
Posted on 2/12/25 at 8:29 am to
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There's almost nothing Houston or Tennessee could do at this point to finish the season outside the top 10 in NET.

Do NOT get me started on Houston
Posted by skrayper
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Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 2/12/25 at 8:31 am to
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Bama only 6th?


.NET really loves their efficiency stats.

In reality Alabama has played above their "predictive" metrics all year.

Not by any insane margin, but comparing result-based rankings (Alabama is #2 in all 3 of the ones Warren Nolan lists) vs the predictive rankings (Alabama averages a little under 5th in the country) demonstrates that the computers think we're playing at least a BIT above our heads.

Result-Based Metrics
KPI: 2
SOR: 2
WAB: 2


Predictive Metrics
BPI: 5
POM: 6
T-Rank: 5

Result-Based Metrics
KPI: Kevin Pauga Index
SOR: ESPN Strength of Record
WAB: NET Win Above Bubble

Predictive Metrics
BPI: ESPN Basketball Power Index
POM: Ken Pomeroy
T-Rank: Bart Torvik T-Rank
Posted by ForeverGator
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Member since Nov 2012
13528 posts
Posted on 2/12/25 at 8:34 am to
Pretty unprecedented when you think about it.

The Big Ten has 18 teams and may get up to 10 teams in. So just over half of the conference.

The SEC with 16 teams may get up to 13 in. Over 3/4 of the conference.

And The ACC has fallen off a cliff… 4 teams in out of 16.

The tables have turned.
Posted by TideCPA
Member since Jan 2012
12174 posts
Posted on 2/12/25 at 8:34 am to
quote:

In reality Alabama has played above their "predictive" metrics all year.

Not by any insane margin, but comparing result-based rankings (Alabama is #2 in all 3 of the ones Warren Nolan lists) vs the predictive rankings (Alabama averages a little under 5th in the country) demonstrates that the computers think we're playing at least a BIT above our heads.
What has bitten us this season is the trend where we get a semi comfortable lead in the second half and then relax on the defensive end. Happened again last night, even though we extended the lead because our offensive efficiency was ridiculous.

Tennessee and Houston are relentless all game defensively, which inflates their efficiency ratings.

I'm willing to bet if the predictive rankings took garbage time stats out of account we would be higher than #6.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
104987 posts
Posted on 2/12/25 at 8:57 am to
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What has bitten us this season is the trend where we get a semi comfortable lead in the second half and then relax on the defensive end. Happened again last night, even though we extended the lead because our offensive efficiency was ridiculous.



Yep - a garbage time stat in basketball would sure be helpful

@ Carolina - 34 1st half pts, 45 2nd half pts, led 70-52 (+18) with 10 mins left (Carolina scored 27 pts the last 10 mins, never got within 10)

Creighton - 31 1st half pts, 44 2nd half pts, led 65-52 (+13) with 7 mins left (Creighton scored 23 pts last 7 minutes)

South Dakota St - 33 1st half pts, 49 2nd half pts, led 77-56 (+19) with 10 mins left (SDSU scored 26 pts last 10 mins)

Oklahoma - 29 1st half pts, 50 2nd half pts, led 66-40 (+26) with 13 mins left (Oklahoma scored 39 pts over last 13 mins)

Vanderbilt - 31 1st half pts, 56 2nd half pts, led 67-45 (+22) with 12 mins left (Vanderbilt scored 42 pts over the last 12 mins)

Georgia - 28 1st half pts, 41 2nd half pts, led 66-45 (+21) with 10 mins left (Georgia scored 24 pts over the last 10 mins)

@ Arkansas - 34 1st half pts, 47 2nd half pts, led 67-50 (+17) with 9 mins left (Arkansas scored 31 pts over the last 9 mins)

@ Texas - 31 1st half pts, 49 2nd half pts, led 56-34 (+22) with 17 mins left (Texas scored 46 pts the last 17 mins)


It's still frustrating because we shouldn't slack off, but we clearly get to a point in games where we have a huge lead and defensive intensity falls off slightly and we are mentally content scoring with teams. It drives Oats nuts, but it's silly to be counted the same as defensive metrics in a close game - because they are not the same.
This post was edited on 2/12/25 at 9:04 am
Posted by JayAg
Member since Jun 2021
14323 posts
Posted on 2/12/25 at 9:00 am to
I can’t remember if last year a NET of 44ish made you bubble
Posted by Glorious
Mobile
Member since Aug 2014
25546 posts
Posted on 2/12/25 at 9:03 am to
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I can’t remember if last year a NET of 44ish made you bubble

There isn’t a crystal clear cut region. Apparently your own NET is secondary to the NET of everyone you’ve played and beaten (your “Resume”)
Posted by TideCPA
Member since Jan 2012
12174 posts
Posted on 2/12/25 at 9:05 am to
quote:

Yep - a garbage time stat in basketball would sure be helpful
This is also why people shouldn't dismiss Bama as a NC contender due that KenPom top 21 offense, top 31 defense thing. They can (and usually do) defend well when it matters.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
104987 posts
Posted on 2/12/25 at 9:08 am to
quote:

This is also why people shouldn't dismiss Bama as a NC contender due that KenPom top 21 offense, top 31 defense thing. They can (and usually do) defend well when it matters.


I mean it's pretty clear based on each individual game (and how often it has happened). And the way we play means you really have to focus to lock in defensively, which means any slight let down on that end can turn you into a run and gun offense only type team.....which is exactly what has happened to us with big leads in the back half of 2nd halves this season.

It pisses Oats off, and I don't love it either, but it makes sense and the numbers show it is clearly something that doesn't happen when games are in doubt. We're a top 20-25 defense in those situations. We're a 100-125 defense when we're up 15+ with less than 10 minutes left.
Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
54691 posts
Posted on 2/12/25 at 9:09 am to
Comfortably in the tournament
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1. Auburn 4. Florida 5. Tennessee 6. Alabama 12. Texas A&M 15. Kentucky 21. Ole Miss 22. Missouri


Need to avoid a second half meltdown and in

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30. Mississippi State 33. Texas 35. Georgia


Some work to do to be in

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41. Arkansas 42. Vanderbilt 44. Oklahoma


Focused on baseball

quote:

79. LSU 89. South Carolina


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