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How would Kirk Ferentz do at a major program?

Posted on 12/30/24 at 4:18 pm
Posted by Rohan Gravy
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2017
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Posted on 12/30/24 at 4:18 pm

Serious question

He is well respected and solid.

Always has Iowa respectable or better
Posted by SEC Doctor
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6282 posts
Posted on 12/30/24 at 4:18 pm to
If he had a good OC, could definitely be a national contender.
Posted by lewis and herschel
Member since Nov 2009
14011 posts
Posted on 12/30/24 at 4:20 pm to
I just don't see it, he is super stubborn and unwilling to change. Even with the problems stareing him in the face
Posted by Scoob
Near Exxon
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21758 posts
Posted on 12/30/24 at 4:21 pm to
Too late now...

Back in the day, he was supposed to be same level as Saban, across the board. Structure, schemes, overall organization. He just never moved on from Iowa
Posted by dchog
Pea Ridge
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Posted on 12/30/24 at 4:24 pm to
Why would he?
Posted by AlterDWI
Pattern Noticing, Alabama
Member since Nov 2012
4843 posts
Posted on 12/30/24 at 4:25 pm to
He would be fired after 3 years
Posted by Scoob
Near Exxon
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21758 posts
Posted on 12/30/24 at 4:28 pm to
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Why would he?
Well 25 years ago, it would have been for the same reasons Saban did:

Move to a bigger program with more resources, to win a natty instead of just a conference. Eventually jump to the NFL to prove he'd win at all levels
Posted by theballguy
Member since Oct 2011
18248 posts
Posted on 12/30/24 at 4:30 pm to
Imagine a Michigan State Saban-lite who never adjusted to the modern game.

Certainly has done well at Iowa.

He's been where he's supposed to be. Not a bad thing.
Posted by dchog
Pea Ridge
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Posted on 12/30/24 at 4:31 pm to
Well I guess that wasn't his goal though and maybe he likes it where he is at.
Posted by Scoob
Near Exxon
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Posted on 12/30/24 at 4:54 pm to
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Well I guess that wasn't his goal though and maybe he likes it where he is at.
Clearly

My point is that at the time, he and Saban were considered equals. Saban moved around, and is now considered the greatest coach in college history. Ferentz is still just "a nice coach at Iowa"
Posted by BlacknGoldNuts
Columbia, MO
Member since Jul 2023
166 posts
Posted on 12/30/24 at 5:11 pm to
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Too late now...

Back in the day, he was supposed to be same level as Saban, across the board. Structure, schemes, overall organization. He just never moved on from Iowa


100% agree. But to play devils advocate - lets say he left Iowa back in 2010 or sometime around then - does he have that sucess somewhere else? I don't know man, sometimes it's better to retire a legend at a mid-tier school.
Posted by Ghost of Colby
Alberta, overlooking B.C.
Member since Jan 2009
13613 posts
Posted on 12/30/24 at 5:37 pm to
Ferentz will always be an offensive line coach in his heart. He loves teaching run blocking schemes and techniques too much to abandon his roots and embrace spread concepts.

I don’t know how much longer he coaches at Iowa, but an NFL team should immediately hire him as a consultant when he retires.

Offensive line play in the NFL is suffering because too many linemen entering the league struggle with anything other than pass blocking or zone blocking from wide splits.

Coaches at all levels pay very little attention to teaching or developing offensive linemen. Offensive line coaches used to be next in line to the offensive coordinator. These days they are an afterthought. QB coaches, WR coaches, assistant passing game coordinators, or anyone else with a good haircut and associated with the skill positions are valued over the line coach.
Posted by Mizzouligan
St. Louis, MO
Member since Aug 2014
1596 posts
Posted on 12/30/24 at 5:41 pm to
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Serious question He is well respected and solid. Always has Iowa respectable or better


Dude can coach.

He doesn’t get anything above average talent and they play really hard, very few mistakes, stop the run, and take care of the ball.

Iowa is a hard place to win and he’s done it for a very long time.
This post was edited on 12/30/24 at 9:10 pm
Posted by TriStateAreaFootball
Member since Dec 2024
901 posts
Posted on 12/30/24 at 5:49 pm to
Need a definition for "major". If you mean "blueblood", it would just depend on which school. He wouldn't succeed at Miami, but Oklahoma might be a different story for example.
Posted by Miznoz
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Posted on 12/30/24 at 5:52 pm to
I assume at some point he turned down a chance to do so

Posted by shutterspeed
MS Gulf Coast
Member since May 2007
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Posted on 12/30/24 at 6:27 pm to
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I assume at some point he turned down a chance to do so


I want to say LSU showed some interest in him after Saban left, but I can't find any links to confirm.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
119711 posts
Posted on 12/30/24 at 6:28 pm to
quote:

he is super stubborn and unwilling to change


Which is why the Qb that played today sat on the bench all year.
Posted by BlacknGoldNuts
Columbia, MO
Member since Jul 2023
166 posts
Posted on 12/30/24 at 6:44 pm to
quote:


but Oklahoma might be a different story for example.


I would even step down a level - give him the recruits and resources at Arkansas, Auburn, maybe even South Carolina and he'd be in the top 10 year in and year out.
Posted by TriStateAreaFootball
Member since Dec 2024
901 posts
Posted on 12/30/24 at 6:55 pm to
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Arkansas, Auburn, maybe even South Carolina

ISWYDT
Posted by Tiger on the Rag
Cattle Gap Egypt
Member since Jan 2018
7213 posts
Posted on 12/30/24 at 7:06 pm to
Mr Bubbles would not do any better.
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