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How would Kirk Ferentz do at a major program?
Posted on 12/30/24 at 4:18 pm
Posted on 12/30/24 at 4:18 pm
Serious question
He is well respected and solid.
Always has Iowa respectable or better
Posted on 12/30/24 at 4:18 pm to Rohan Gravy
If he had a good OC, could definitely be a national contender.
Posted on 12/30/24 at 4:20 pm to Rohan Gravy
I just don't see it, he is super stubborn and unwilling to change. Even with the problems stareing him in the face
Posted on 12/30/24 at 4:21 pm to Rohan Gravy
Too late now...
Back in the day, he was supposed to be same level as Saban, across the board. Structure, schemes, overall organization. He just never moved on from Iowa
Back in the day, he was supposed to be same level as Saban, across the board. Structure, schemes, overall organization. He just never moved on from Iowa
Posted on 12/30/24 at 4:25 pm to Rohan Gravy
He would be fired after 3 years
Posted on 12/30/24 at 4:28 pm to dchog
quote:Well 25 years ago, it would have been for the same reasons Saban did:
Why would he?
Move to a bigger program with more resources, to win a natty instead of just a conference. Eventually jump to the NFL to prove he'd win at all levels
Posted on 12/30/24 at 4:30 pm to Rohan Gravy
Imagine a Michigan State Saban-lite who never adjusted to the modern game.
Certainly has done well at Iowa.
He's been where he's supposed to be. Not a bad thing.
Certainly has done well at Iowa.
He's been where he's supposed to be. Not a bad thing.
Posted on 12/30/24 at 4:31 pm to Scoob
Well I guess that wasn't his goal though and maybe he likes it where he is at.
Posted on 12/30/24 at 4:54 pm to dchog
quote:Clearly
Well I guess that wasn't his goal though and maybe he likes it where he is at.
My point is that at the time, he and Saban were considered equals. Saban moved around, and is now considered the greatest coach in college history. Ferentz is still just "a nice coach at Iowa"
Posted on 12/30/24 at 5:11 pm to Scoob
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Too late now...
Back in the day, he was supposed to be same level as Saban, across the board. Structure, schemes, overall organization. He just never moved on from Iowa
100% agree. But to play devils advocate - lets say he left Iowa back in 2010 or sometime around then - does he have that sucess somewhere else? I don't know man, sometimes it's better to retire a legend at a mid-tier school.
Posted on 12/30/24 at 5:37 pm to SEC Doctor
Ferentz will always be an offensive line coach in his heart. He loves teaching run blocking schemes and techniques too much to abandon his roots and embrace spread concepts.
I don’t know how much longer he coaches at Iowa, but an NFL team should immediately hire him as a consultant when he retires.
Offensive line play in the NFL is suffering because too many linemen entering the league struggle with anything other than pass blocking or zone blocking from wide splits.
Coaches at all levels pay very little attention to teaching or developing offensive linemen. Offensive line coaches used to be next in line to the offensive coordinator. These days they are an afterthought. QB coaches, WR coaches, assistant passing game coordinators, or anyone else with a good haircut and associated with the skill positions are valued over the line coach.
I don’t know how much longer he coaches at Iowa, but an NFL team should immediately hire him as a consultant when he retires.
Offensive line play in the NFL is suffering because too many linemen entering the league struggle with anything other than pass blocking or zone blocking from wide splits.
Coaches at all levels pay very little attention to teaching or developing offensive linemen. Offensive line coaches used to be next in line to the offensive coordinator. These days they are an afterthought. QB coaches, WR coaches, assistant passing game coordinators, or anyone else with a good haircut and associated with the skill positions are valued over the line coach.
Posted on 12/30/24 at 5:41 pm to Rohan Gravy
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Serious question He is well respected and solid. Always has Iowa respectable or better
Dude can coach.
He doesn’t get anything above average talent and they play really hard, very few mistakes, stop the run, and take care of the ball.
Iowa is a hard place to win and he’s done it for a very long time.
This post was edited on 12/30/24 at 9:10 pm
Posted on 12/30/24 at 5:49 pm to Rohan Gravy
Need a definition for "major". If you mean "blueblood", it would just depend on which school. He wouldn't succeed at Miami, but Oklahoma might be a different story for example.
Posted on 12/30/24 at 5:52 pm to Rohan Gravy
I assume at some point he turned down a chance to do so
Posted on 12/30/24 at 6:27 pm to Miznoz
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I assume at some point he turned down a chance to do so
I want to say LSU showed some interest in him after Saban left, but I can't find any links to confirm.
Posted on 12/30/24 at 6:28 pm to lewis and herschel
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he is super stubborn and unwilling to change
Which is why the Qb that played today sat on the bench all year.
Posted on 12/30/24 at 6:44 pm to TriStateAreaFootball
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but Oklahoma might be a different story for example.
I would even step down a level - give him the recruits and resources at Arkansas, Auburn, maybe even South Carolina and he'd be in the top 10 year in and year out.
Posted on 12/30/24 at 6:55 pm to BlacknGoldNuts
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Arkansas, Auburn, maybe even South Carolina
ISWYDT
Posted on 12/30/24 at 7:06 pm to Rohan Gravy
Mr Bubbles would not do any better.
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